Search found 1290 matches

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 26
by jupiter2
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments
Replies: 1427
Views: 133795

Re: SpaceX - Tests, Launches, Developments

Surprised no one's posted yet, but today's launch of TESS went off without a hitch. TESS was inserted into the correct orbit, and the B4 booster made a successful landing on OCISLY. Without a hitch ? HA ! I was out there on Monday to watch the launch and just as we were to board the bus they scrubb...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45310

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Whats the status of the A330neo order from Hifly? Is it through a lessor and then to them? Just a story, no order announced. Geoff Not correct. Hi Fly is taking its first A330-900neo on lease from ALC. http://aviationweek.com/awincommercial/hi-fly-leases-a330-900-alc I think what he meant is, that ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Double stretches of an aircraft, why don’t they work?
Replies: 24
Views: 2540

Re: question, may be a touch technical...

Guess if you want to include paper planes, then sure the 753 is a double stretch. lack of sells doesn't change the fact that the design freeze was based on a variant smaller than the -200. I just don't see what your point is :sarcastic: Even after it was explained? ...hmm, not sure how to simplify ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:25 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Double stretches of an aircraft, why don’t they work?
Replies: 24
Views: 2540

Re: question, may be a touch technical...

Neither the 753 or the 748i are double stretches. Incorrect on the 757 You're forgetting about the 757-100 (7N7-100); which wasn't delivered, but did form the baseline for the 757's design. The 752, despite being the first (and for a long time, only) to market, was a stretch of 751 platform, the la...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: QF blunderously denied UK couple boarding flight to PEK for ignorance of China's 144-hour transit visa-free policy
Replies: 18
Views: 2787

Re: QF blunderously denied UK couple boarding flight to PEK for ignorance of China's 144-hour transit visa-free policy

Had to read this thread just for the incredible title, such a wordsmith Zoedyn. So the airline stuffed up on something which happens everyday, somewhere around the world and of course the first thing that the customer does is goes straight to the media, while still at Christchurch airport ! Now I'll...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Double stretches of an aircraft, why don’t they work?
Replies: 24
Views: 2540

Re: question, may be a touch technical...

Obviously, this isn't an absolute, as the 739ER is doing just fine. The 779 will likely be a winner as well. But yes, the likes of the 764ER, 753, A346, 748i were total dogs in terms of sales... but they perform well. There are factors beyond just being a double-stretch (and therefore less optimize...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Mrakula, redroo, I know exactly why the 789 was chosen, was just trying to prove a point with zeke. Just over the bias towards all Airbus products that he shows. The 789 is obviously quite able to operate the sector with the pax load that QF want from it, as would be the case if they decide to put i...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Looked also at the last QF9 (PER-LHR), flew 7915 nm in 17.73 hrs, average ground speed 446 kts, planned 485 kts, average 38 kts headwind, air nautical miles flown 8600 nm. That means payload was offloaded for fuel as it is fuel volume limited above around 8500 nm. QF10 (LHR-PER) flew 7967 nm in 16....

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

So the 2 x 789s will basically carry the same payload of the 380, but use significantly less fuel. Isn't that what has been said all along ? No it is not the same load, the 2x787-9 will carry less, if you want to carry the same payload as the A380 you will need to use 3x787-9. My calculations is th...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Have you even bothered to check the numbers before splashing this non-sense? Q1 2018 QF group domestic traffic 10900 mRPK QF group international traffic 21080 mRPK International is twice the size of domestic in terms of traffic and is hence the core market of QF. According to QF statements, domesti...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

So if neither aircraft type is at their max fuel volume, what are the approx figures ? It is not a trivial problem, it would take me a few days to work it out, and I have better things to do. The relationship is not linear, it is based upon the natural log of the start and end mass. The only thing ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The longevity myth of the 737 compared to A320
Replies: 29
Views: 4620

Re: The longevity myth of the 737 compared to A320

Besides blowing the Airbus fan boy trumpet, what is the point of the post ?

Lightsaber has given the only numbers that matter. Do your numbers take into account bankruptcies, write offs, cheap new builds, spares worth, acts of terrorism, wars, take overs and mergers, etc ?

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The longevity myth of the 737 compared to A320
Replies: 29
Views: 4620

Re: The longevity myth of the 737 compared to A320

You're including 1125 737-100s and 200s designed and built before the 320 was a twinkle in the designers eye. Yet there are still some of those sturdy little work horses roaming the skies.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

You are not wrong about the 8% fuel burn advantage. 2 B789 will burn slightly less than a 2018 A380. As discussed earlier though, payload capability will be higher for the A380. You completely misunderstood all of the data that I just spent an hour writing :banghead: That 8% fuel burn advantage tak...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Here the numbers based on 126,000litres and 323,000 litres max capacities. The route is 7554nm. So it will need minimum 8000nm. The A380 according to the chart does not get fuel volume limited until around 9200 nm, the 787-9 however does get fuel volume limited around 8600 nm range according to cha...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Old livery "holdouts"
Replies: 18
Views: 1468

Re: Old livery "holdouts"

Air China and I hope they don't change it. Looks fantastic on their 748s,

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

You are so wrong it's not funny. The quote was two 789's can be operated for less than a single A380. All you did was calculate the payload each aircraft would fly and you came up with. 787-9 - 17T A380 - 40T You had to go one step further and calculate the fuel burn to take that payload. Both woul...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Remarks such as the report that 2 x 236 seat B789 's can be operated for less than the cost of a 486 seat A380 show that preference. 2 B789's will burn around 11 tons an hour on ULH missions, the A380 Plus will clock in at 11.5 tons per hour. An A380 will be cheaper to operate than 2 B789's for sur...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Yes the JL flights are from NRT but they could switch to HND. It also makes more sense given domestic connection options. Timetables can be made to fit the purpose. Currently JL is struggling in off peak for the new LHR flight. The departure times are a bit of a challenge for O&D in HND. So I'm...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Well I think that there is no questioning that the current QF management is going to pick the B778 perhaps in combo with the B779. Not because it's the better airplane, but because it's a Boeing. Using a specialised aircraft in a flexible way is not ideal. LHR one day, HKG the next is a wrong conce...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

And yet for all your implicit assumption that an A35k is a perfect substitute of a 777X, many airlines have decided to order both instead of one or the other... Unless I have missed it, QF have not ordered the 77X, therefore it is not a substitute. My point being the A350-1000 was not even being me...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Sub fleet of 779’s for SYD/MEL-LAX SYD-HKG SYD-HND SYD-JNB SIN-LHR Who in their right mind would buy a 777-9 for medium haul ? Because those same 777-9s will do very nicely on the flights to LAX and DFW and SIN/LHR etc. The same as the 380 and 747 fleets do now, long haul one day, medium haul, high...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO warns of significant impact from corruption probes
Replies: 322
Views: 56948

Re: Airbus CEO warns of significant impact from corruption probes

To anyone with some financial experience, that F1 sponsorship is suspicious : 1. What is the malaysian public to Airbus 2. More broadly speaking, how many TV watchers buy Airbus ? 3. Airbus does not need to advertize the general public. Airlines on the other hand do ( see Emirates & Etihad stad...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45310

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

SaudiGulf has ordered 16 widebodies at Boeing Clearly not an order yet. Well neither is the Aegean deal announced one post above as the article mentions it is also an MoU so... Didn’t bother him when EK signed just an MOU for the A380s either. He happily shared the link. I might not understand the ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 324
Views: 48260

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

Looks like Joyce has given up on the idea of a full cargo load over his required distances. He is now suggesting the unused cargo space could be used for passenger needs during an ULH flight. https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/cargo-class-qantas-ceo-reveals-out-there-options-for-super-lon...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hi Fly orders 10 A330-900 Neos.
Replies: 34
Views: 6598

Re: Hi Fly orders 10 A330-900 Neos.

...will seat in unmatched comfort 365 passengers in a three class configuration (business class seats with flat beds, high comfort premium economy and standard economy). Upon client demand the configuration can be changed at short notice to a full economy version seating 415 passengers. Huh, that i...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update: Hawaiian signs 787 LOI
Replies: 840
Views: 95603

Re: Update: Hawaiian signs 787 LOI

hawaiian717 wrote:
The article explains why they didn’t want to stick with the A330-800, but doesn’t get in to why they went for the 787-9 over the A330-900.


Maybe because it's the better aircraft for their needs :scratchchin:

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018
Replies: 593
Views: 52664

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018

https://twitter.com/brendanqf789/status ... 8199350272


Hmmmmmm :scratchchin: Do I go to Kalgoorlie or London ?
-->

qf789 wrote:
International flights on the T4 departures board

Image

https://twitter.com/brendanqf789/status ... 8199350272


Hmmmmmm :scratchchin: Do I go to Kalgoorlie or London ?

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018
Replies: 593
Views: 52664

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018

Are you suggesting that JQ will use the 321LR to SGN ? That would be really pushing the envelope for it and would be a lot of extra expense for a relatively small increase in capacity and most likely a decrease in cargo capacity.. The split daily service was probably more than enough capacity for s...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018
Replies: 593
Views: 52664

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018

The JQ services are 4 flights a week SYD-SGN, 3 flights a week MEL-SGN. Wouldn’t call it daily to be honest nor a threat with VN services daily from SYD/MEL. “The inaugural flight is scheduled to take off on May 10 from Melbourne, Jetstar said on Thursday, with Sydney-Ho Chi Minh City services set ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why are MD-88's so loud?
Replies: 20
Views: 3474

Re: Why are MD-88's so loud?

Noise, smoke, vibration, all part of what made aircraft more interesting "back in the day". Used to get 727s and DC9s screaming over my old house as a kid, the house would vibrate, windows rattle and the TV would get drowned out, I loved it. Aircraft had character. Old turboprops used to b...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Attempted spy assasination in UK?
Replies: 454
Views: 11558

Re: Attempted spy assasination in UK?

Why are you guys taking the bait from this idiot ? Just ignore him and continue your discussion about this act of war/terrorism on British soil.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: India Grounds affected Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines After Indigo Incident
Replies: 72
Views: 11008

Re: India Grounds Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines

Indian weather is no more extreme than the south west U.S.A or what could be found in other areas of the world. The pollution is some of the worlds worst. Well if that was the cause it would be happening to other engine types as well. Pollution is terrible in China as well, yet doesn't seem to affe...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: India Grounds affected Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines After Indigo Incident
Replies: 72
Views: 11008

Re: India Grounds Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines

It could also be that the harsh Indian weather and environment might exacerbate the problem. Even earlier when DGCA had limited the altitude at which engines equipped with P&W engines could fly due to the bearing issue, P&W had mentioned that the harsh Indian environment leads to excessive ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: India Grounds affected Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines After Indigo Incident
Replies: 72
Views: 11008

Re: India Grounds Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines

Indigo had another in flight shut down on the 12th. DCGA has obviously had enough and grounded the affected aircraft, which is fair enough. They maybe a wonderfully fuel efficient engine, but at some point safety has to take precedence. Isn't the corollary of this that the EASA and FAA don't give s...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: India Grounds affected Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines After Indigo Incident
Replies: 72
Views: 11008

Re: India Grounds Airbus Planes With Troubled Pratt & Whitney Engines

Not good. Seems PW's recovery strategy has just melted down. Not really. We have an EASA air worthiness directive that has also been implemented by the FAA. Both of which impose operating restrictions on Aircraft with these engines. The DCGA has gone further for some reason. I suppose it's possible...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ET flies 787 to Victoria Falls
Replies: 5
Views: 2089

Re: ET flies 787 to Victoria Falls

787 Ha ! I flew out of VFA in 1997 on a Namibia Commercial Aviation DC6 to WDH. I remember reading an article in one of those glossy airlines magazines about this very service. NICE! Sure was :D It was the main point for a 2 week trip to South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia. We had a great time.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ET flies 787 to Victoria Falls
Replies: 5
Views: 2089

Re: ET flies 787 to Victoria Falls

787 Ha ! I flew out of VFA in 1997 on a Namibia Commercial Aviation DC6 to WDH.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)
Replies: 49
Views: 7658

Re: Beijing new airport thread (construction developments & discussions)

I still find it amazing that PEK handles so many passengers. I was there in April last year and while it's busy, at didn't appear that busy, Terminal 1 was a ghost town after 9pm. Terminal 3 is huge and it's hard to gauge how busy it is, except for the nightmare that is security screening. However, ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UTA to Denpasar Bali in the late 1980s?
Replies: 46
Views: 4491

Re: UTA to Denpasar Bali in the late 1980s?

SQ789 wrote:
RalXWB wrote:
SQ789 wrote:
What is UTA anyway?


An Airline :old:

Union de Transports Aériens?


Yes, that's correct. Were later absorbed into Air France who took over the flights to Noumea, Australia, etc.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UTA to Denpasar Bali in the late 1980s?
Replies: 46
Views: 4491

Re: UTA to Denpasar Bali in the late 1980s?

RalXWB wrote:
SQ789 wrote:
What is UTA anyway?


An Airline :old:


Was an airline :spin:

Probably had the original Euro White scheme as well, with the lovely green doors.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X CEO in Seattle discussing 787-10
Replies: 92
Views: 12939

Re: AirAsia X CEO in Seattle discussing 787-10

The JQ 787 order was done through Qantas, as all JQ orders have been. It was meant originally that the 787-8 would first go to JQ, then when the 787-9 started to arrive, they would go to JQ and the 787-8 aircraft would go to QF. Not sure if JQ ever got QF hand me downs, if there were they would have...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018
Replies: 593
Views: 52664

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - March 2018

I believe your referring to the LHR curfew and I agree will be challenging ensuring the flight isn’t delayed ex-MEL with a domino effect. What’s even more concerning is the ex-LAX sector any delay there rolls on. It’s an early arrival at LHR that would be a problem, not a delayed one. That's easily...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus may leave UK unless there is urgent clarity on Brexit trade
Replies: 108
Views: 8621

Re: Airbus may leave UK unless there is urgent clarity on Brexit trade

Thanks gents, so basically all that would keep Airbus from moving production is several billion in infrastructure costs. Enough in itself of course to warrant getting this sorted out as easily as possible.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: 2x Russian SU-57 PAK-FA show up in Syria
Replies: 106
Views: 6924

Re: 2x Russian SU-57 PAK-FA show up in Syria

Well, the question is why the Nato didn't stop as its reason of existence (SU and its ideology) cessed to exist ? Why did Nato refused to transform to an organization including Russia in the end of the 90s, beginning the 2000s ? Russia was very open to discuss and willing to be withing the western ...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus may leave UK unless there is urgent clarity on Brexit trade
Replies: 108
Views: 8621

Re: Airbus may leave UK unless there is urgent clarity on Brexit trade

Are the wings fully designed by BAE, as in, would they hold a patent on them ? Just thinking, because if they do, it may not be so simple to just build another factory elsewhere and build the same wings. Probably a moot point anyway, this will get sorted out in the long run, unless one side really d...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff
Replies: 135
Views: 6299

Re: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff

It wasn't automatic. Automatic weapons are illegal. Time to do some research before you post. And, under existing gun laws, this 19-year-old ADULT shouldn't have been able to purchase the weapon, and wouldn't have if anybody had ever arrested him on the 39 trips they made to his house, or responded...

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:29 am
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Substitute for Rydges Sydney airport Viewing Deck
Replies: 5
Views: 490

Re: Substitute for Rydges Sydney airport Viewing Deck

Use the northern one, the one nearest the cargo terminal. Excellent views of 16R approaches and heavies off 34L, also good ground shots possible. Some shade provided by solar panels on the top level as well, though make sure you bring food/drink with you and it does get very windy up there.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:02 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New weapon. Russia.
Replies: 78
Views: 4581

Re: New weapon. Russia.

I hope there aren't any living things near or on this testing range, because with radiation spewing out the rear end of cruise missiles flying around, they won't be alive for much longer. Seems like we've timed warped back to the 1950's.

Jump to post
by jupiter2
Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff
Replies: 135
Views: 6299

Re: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff

MCG: Nice use of the word "Teen" in the verbal picture you're trying to create. Kindly recognize that using your definition, much of our military is Teens with M16s. Interesting that they don't usually frag their bases or their commanders or hometowns, isn't it? And if you think that's be...

Jump to post
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 26