ORD is being cut to seasonal as AA have an aircraft issue. The 767 is being drawn down, and the 757 is to be cut from the ORD base entirely. Seems they won't have a Transatlantic narrowbody at ORD for a while. The situation regarding entry points is probably going to be impacted by the Alaskan take...Jump to post
Steering the topic back on to Manchester... I've noticed that there are no American Airlines flights to Chicago past 04th September, is that the end or just that they've not put the next two months of flights in? (It wouldn't surprise me if it was indeed the end since I'm planning on Chicago for my...Jump to post
Cheers Skipness - yes, I was referring the the A333 in percentage as opposed to gross terms. If they aim for a MAN specific configuration, on the A332 and possibly A333, you'd probably focus on a decent sized PE cabin. I understand UC does okay, but if VS want to regularly fill seats, compete with T...Jump to post
The A333s have served VS well on MAN-ATL/JFK/SFO/BOS/BGI/LAS, and these are (or at least were before renovation of upper class) the most premium heavy configuration in their fleet. Whether that is best for the MAN market, I don't know, but I would imagine if they plan to keep them for any period lon...Jump to post
Hainan will be 4 weekly barring July-October when it will be daily. Whilst 4x weekly is not to be sniffed at, this is a slightly odd one given the fanfare of how the route was performing better than expected a few weeks ago. I don't know how it places MAN to get services to CAN and PVG, with both s...Jump to post
I believe the unusual current flight numbers have led to speculation CX had provisionally allocated numbers for a late afternoon/early evening arrival/departure.
I think this plan has been shelved, so don't expect anything before 2019.
EDIT - I'd go with what User001 thinks...
How’s the interior of these aircraft? Do they have PTV’s? It hat be a pain to not have product consistency. I think the PTV answer is, yes, but to Air Berlin standard so probabably not a consistent product. I understand the plan is to renovate the interior to introduce VS products (including premiu...Jump to post
AFAIK they're on initial 1 year leases, with a view to extend these if that's successful. These will be the smallest AC in the fleet and could really help for lower demand routes in season downtime whilst giving more slack in the summer, and allowing more frequencies. Virgin Holidays seems to be gr...Jump to post
It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, VS do with these airframes once the B789 issues are resolved. If they want to expand, will they use these airframes? Or can they cascade enough A333s when more A35K and B789 arrive? I suspect they offer a better rate of return than the A346, so my guess...Jump to post
CLT-MAN, maybe, but if the entire plane is just going to connect to Florida (inevitably it will), just fly it to MIA instead. I'd never say never, but AA has struggled at MAN in the last year or two. ORD has retreated to a short summer season, and JFK has been cut. There are "non-MAN" fac...Jump to post
Annual figures out.. 27.79 million or up 8 5% http://www.bqlive.co.uk/transport-infrastructure/2018/01/11/news/manchester-airport-celebrates-a-bumper-year-29895/ Here is MAG's press release: http://mediacentre.magairports.com/mags-three-airports-serve-4-million-more-passengers-in-2017/ 2017 total: ...Jump to post
It seems the expanded UK-China bilateral (+50 new weekly return flights) excludes London routes. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/london-excluded-from-extra-uk-china-frequencies-444675/ I've seen rumours of Air China to Shanghai, Hainan to Guangzhou and Xiaman to Xiamen speculated elsewhere.Jump to post
quote="DobboDobbo"]DME also, did well due to cargo as well. Though right now it low season for Europe travel. It nice to fly to MAN then take a train to London, save money on buying flight to LHR on BA or UA. The position with cargo broadly reflects the position with passengers. SIN-IAH i...Jump to post
It's worth keeping an eye on SQ over the winter. SIN-IAH traffic has been steady, but low, at roughly 55-70 passengers per sector flown. The route therefore needs strong demand MAN-IAH to continue viability. Over the summer months traffic on the MAN-IAH sector was good, but over winter it has droppe...Jump to post
Bhx can fill 2 a380s from EK a day eastbound, you would think it could take a 777 westbound TATL at the very least I think going east you have the double whammy of a dominant carrier (EK) able to funnel large volumes of passengers through its hub before distributing them around Africa, Far East, In...Jump to post
The plan for the A332s during S18 is to service ANU, BGI, and UVF temporarily from Gatwick. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/276336/virgin-atlantic-outlines-a330-200-london-network-in-s18/ Agreed. In the short term, not all the A332s are MAN based, but I would guess they will be by...Jump to post
While London is obviously the the big hitter, some of those passenger levels are nothing to sneeze at. Paris is sitting right at 250,000 a year, and thats 500+ passengers a day. QF would only have to capture less than half of that to make it work, which isn't really a stretch. Really there is a few...Jump to post
Per the graphic in the below article, there is an enormous gap between Australia-London demand, and the next highest (Paris and Manchester). In short, I don't think anyone can expect a rapid expansion of QF services into any European port aside from London in the near future. https://blueswandaily.c...Jump to post
Also the fleet of Malaysian indicates they are going to want the newest frames from AerCap and Virgin only needs them for a year or so. The impression I have is that VS will keep these for longer than 1 year, something like 4-5 years (refitting with VS hard products). Indication is that they wanted...Jump to post
AA’s loss is UA’s and others’ gains. Maybe they’ll add more when T5 expands, but AA seems comfortable with seasonal flights and letting OneWorld partners handle all. I wouldn’t be surprised if AA dropped ORD-MAN and it was picked up by UA or BA. If UA wasn’t so awful, they could be kicking AAs ass....Jump to post
Less realistic: -MT extends the season for SEA-MAN during S19 I think this is right, the aircraft MT will use on the route is leased from "air tanker" which has no IFE. For a 10 (or thereabouts) hour sector, that is a major issue. I'd be surprised if MT bring the route back next year, but...Jump to post
Well MT can't be doing so bad on BOS-MAN, they've upped themselves to 3x weekly (1,3,5) for the Summer 18 reason, I think this season was only 2x weekly and coupled with VS's 2x. https://www.thomascookairlines.com/en/generated/timetable_S2018.pdf There are indications VS might try MAN-BOS year roun...Jump to post
November 2017 stats A conflicting story. Passenger numbers continue to grow at just under 2% despite Monarch's collapse, but cargo is substantially down. Passengers Rolling 12 month: 27,764,247 November 2017: 1,731,446 November YoY change: +1.9% Cargo November 2017: 10,232 November YoY change: -4.9%...Jump to post
It sounds like VS are loading the new seatplans (i.e. for A332) on their schedules. I can't seem to find any. Which routes did you put in for dates? I was only getting 747s and A330-300s :banghead: Hi James, it should be generally available. Don't know if there is a distinction between desktop/mobi...Jump to post
In VS news (discussed on separate thread) is appears that VS are leasing some (reported up to 4) ex Air Berlin A332s to base at MAN so the A333s can cover B789 shortage at LHR (caused by engine trouble). There will be painted and internally refitted to VS standards by the start of the summer season....Jump to post
Whilst MAN is having to play the poor relation to LHR, this is no great surprise given (aside from anything else) the slot position at LHR. I have no problem with this. On the positive side, it feels like VS are going to a decent amount of effort to keep the MAN programme going. I don't know whethe...Jump to post
Whilst MAN is having to play the poor relation to LHR, this is no great surprise given (aside from anything else) the slot position at LHR. I have no problem with this. On the positive side, it feels like VS are going to a decent amount of effort to keep the MAN programme going. I don't know whether...Jump to post
Internaute wrote:I’ve been told that MAN may be in line for an increased frequency from the Winter ‘18 timetable, still on A350.
the loads on DOH-AKL aren't that stellar (although much better than DXB-AKL A380). I hadn't realised that the A380 DXB-AKL loads were poor. Elaborate? That's reflective of my experience. DXD-AKL - packed. AKL-DXB - 50% loaded at best (some of this may be due to blocking seats, but this went beyond ...Jump to post
IMHO, NZ and SQ should co-ordinate - either: - Replace SQ's daily 77W with a 10x weekly service (likely on the 359) - Add 3x additional NZ flights per week (either on the 772, 77W or 789) This would allow for more connections to EZE. Cheers, C. I think a tweak to SQ's SIN-AKL service would also hel...Jump to post
Have to say, the SQ European flights (departing mid-morning European time) don't connect well coming back from AKL, CHC, WEL. The connection into NZ's SIN-AKL is pretty good, but SQ (I think they are in a JV with ANZ on these routes?) could probably pick up more market share EU-NZ with some relativ...Jump to post
How is it that BA doesn't consider establishing a second hub at Manchester Ringway? Primarily, A320s and B788s (when the B78Js arrive; right now, it could be 3-class B772s) could be based there. I think this is a reasonable question. Its not a question about feasibility, or whether it would make mo...Jump to post
Have to say, the SQ European flights (departing mid-morning European time) don't connect well coming back from AKL, CHC, WEL. The connection into NZ's SIN-AKL is pretty good, but SQ (I think they are in a JV with ANZ on these routes?) could probably pick up more market share EU-NZ with some relative...Jump to post
Except size of the cities/airports is not the only thing in the world. DUS - Large Japanese presence, both in business and people. VIE - Actually no flights right now, with the flight restarting in May 2018. By OS and in addition to probable tourism demand to the region, tons of connection availabl...Jump to post
Here is a list of smaller airports in Europe with direct links to Tokyo: Oslo , Düsseldorf, Vienna, Brussels, Helsinki, Warsaw (Milan as well but that is an unusual situation). Actually OSL has no other connections to Asia than BKK (TG). Both OSL and ARN are missing a link to TYO. I stand corrected...Jump to post
In the big picture, the UK is London and the rest is farmland. Whilst I agree ANA give the best chance of a MAN-TYO link, such decisions are made on the facts and not perception. In the bigger picture, the only city in Europe comparable with London is Paris, and even that is a stretch. The reality ...Jump to post
BHXflyinghigh wrote:I’m intrigued as to what ‘signs’ indicate SFO and BOS go year round when their initial summer run this year was cut short and hasn’t been increased next year AFAIK.
But VS can’t even maintain ATL and JFK daily through the winter months so I’m not sure what good throwing DTW into the mix would do. It’s quite clear to see that MAN’s US ops are gearing more and more towards leisure P2P and the more direct options TCX, and to a lesser extent VS, continue to add th...Jump to post
At MAN the AA/BA JV is being soundly defeated by a combination of: (i) DL/VS flying into JFK/ATL with some P2P; (ii) TCX P2P flying; and (iii) the likes of SQ, UA and FI offering a diverse range of options. The market shows it's not a shrinking one, or that it lacks premium demand. One of the issues...Jump to post
As for the ORD-MAN drawback, I think that it's a testament to a couple of things. First, there is just no business case for it anymore. The business traffic between the two cities is virtually nothing lately and AA could not sustain the losses during the winter months that it was incurring. Secondl...Jump to post
Disappointing to see AA retreat further at MAN.
Having cut JFK, the long season on the B788 indicated AA were going to compete at ORD. Alas, their TATL network continues to shrink. The more DL/VS expand, the more AA contract. I wonder what moves are afoot behind this?
TG can preform much better in Europe for two main reasons I know of. 1) Thailand is a HUGE vacation market from Europe. The US, not so much at all. 2) TG carries a lot of passengers between Europe and Australia/New Zealand. All of which makes me question why TG don't appear to view BKK-MAN-JFK as a...Jump to post
MAN continues to grow in October. Obviously the full impact of Monarch's demise has not yet been felt, but it gives cause to believe the trajectory can remain an upward one. Rolling 12 month total: 27,732,67 October 2017 total: 2,404,521 Year on year growth: +3.1% Still larger in October than STN, s...Jump to post
Here is a recording of the interview.
Of interest, he is asked about more BA regional flying, including long haul. He does not deny it is being evaluated, but there is nothing imminent.
One of the common misconceptions about MAN is that it only serves Manchester. That is squarely not the case. MAN also serves a catchment area that includes the cities of Leeds, Liverpool and Sheffield. Less clearly it also serves the cities of Newcastle and Birmingham. If you do not include Birmingh...Jump to post
The other market JL (or ANA) can capture from MAN is the Kangaroo route - of which MAN is the third largest market at the European end (after London and Paris). The Kangaroo route is also part of the reason why MAN-Middle East has the second largest capacity in Europe (after London) and also why you...Jump to post