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by Qantas16
Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 207
Views: 22567

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018

Qatar CEO is threatening to leave OneWorld Alliance and has taken a direct swipe at Qantas Al Baker is also unhappy with Qantas’s behaviour, which has an extensive tie-up with Gulf rival Emirates while its relationship with Qatar is “trivial”, he says. “And it is blocking us getting rights into Aus...

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by Qantas16
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 174
Views: 13061

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018

For some reason the current agreement means NZ only has access to BOM (which is on the wrong side of the subcontinent). DEL would work better for them but even then flights to India are low yield and high cost. If NZ is interested in it I would say the AKL South America hub would be where the value...

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by Qantas16
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 174
Views: 13061

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2018

TG491 was operated by 77E HS-TJV with a 4hr delay, it appears that HS-TJR departed BKK on time and returned a short time later. I wonder if TG cross trains crew on 777/787? Given their frequent changes, unless it was planned well ahead, hard to say given the 787 issues. PER got a 789 instead of AKL...

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by Qantas16
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 207
Views: 22567

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018

Australia and Fiji are renegotiating their ASA, and there will be a 20% increase in designated capacity. Really interesting. Could this pave the way for FJ to launch PER? Or maybe a SUV - MEL service? I assume this is more of an FJ thing rather than a VA/JQ thing, given that Fiji previously said it...

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by Qantas16
Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad adding fourth LHR service
Replies: 5
Views: 2905

Re: Etihad adding fourth LHR service

Don't close that lounge just yet! EY are adding an extra 787 flight during December and January. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/280844/etihad-increases-london-heathrow-service-in-dec-2018jan-2019/ Where did they get the slot from? Or maybe I should say slots given the times for t...

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by Qantas16
Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Newbie, question regarding repositioning flights
Replies: 26
Views: 3417

Re: Newbie, question regarding repositioning flights

Ok, reading in the QF fleet thread: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1382753, last page, regarding aircraft in Singapore for repaint flying back to Australia as a repositioning flight 6XXX. Do airlines take revenue passengers on these flights? Would it be economical to do so,...

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by Qantas16
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 207
Views: 22567

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018

https://www.ausbt.com.au/eva-air-s-boei ... o-brisbane
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EVA to deploy 787-9 to BNE sometime next year which will replace A333 (which will replace existing A332)...

Source: https://www.ausbt.com.au/eva-air-s-boei ... o-brisbane

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by Qantas16
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018
Replies: 207
Views: 22567

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - October 2018

BITRE figures available for July https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/files/International_airline_activity_1807.pdf Singapore Airlines' load factors for July are very high to both SIN and WLG... 94% inbound load factor ex-SIN. Some highlights from BNE: AC to YVR Inbound: 90.1% Outbound: 86.3% ...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

What on earth is going on with QF80,NRT-MEL, 8 hours late and now is diverting to Perth from up near Cairns? One of the extra MEL-PER A330 flights has been cancelled tonight so it looks like it is positioning to PER to operate QF1333 PER-MEL. If this is the case it doesnt really explain what happen...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Anyone know what TT 396 (VH-VNP) was up to today? Flight radar shows it making it past Rockhampton then returning all the way back to Sydney only to try the trip again a few hours later Seems very odd and doesn't look like its made the trip again... hasn't left SYD since (as far as I can tell). Kor...

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by Qantas16
Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 307
Views: 24811

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2018

CI ... are 1 stop, going 77W over DEC-FEB but a lot of that will be local AKL-BNE traffic. Does anyone know definitively how much of CI's AKL - BNE service is O&D traffic versus connections through to TPE? I for one find it hard to understand the BITRE figures for fifth-freedom Australia - New ...

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by Qantas16
Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route. Just searched for some flights from CNS to HKG in Feb on the Qantas booking site, all options presented were QF metal via BNE or SYD. ...

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by Qantas16
Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Arabia pilots turn an A320 into a STOL aircraft
Replies: 74
Views: 17482

Re: Air Arabia pilots turn an A320 into a STOL aircraft

How come those in the tower missed seeing this and didn't instruct to cancel the take-off clearance ? Probably because by the time they noticed the aircraft was already lifting off. Then they would be some very inattentive air traffic controllers! They should have noticed once the aircraft started ...

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by Qantas16
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic. https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/cathay-pacific-and-qantas-codeshare-to-bring-australia-and-asia-closer/ Whilst I understand no c...

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by Qantas16
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Arabia pilots turn an A320 into a STOL aircraft
Replies: 74
Views: 17482

Re: Air Arabia pilots turn an A320 into a STOL aircraft

I hope you are being sarcastic. If they had "great situational awareness" they would have recognized the error and taxied to the correct takeoff position. You may want to read up on Comair 5191. This could have easily ended the same way. Great situational awareness? Sounds pretty poor to ...

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by Qantas16
Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Flat beds on narrowbodies
Replies: 20
Views: 3003

Re: Flat beds on narrowbodies

seansasLCY wrote:
With Copa announcing that they are fitting their new 737s with flat beds I was wondering what other narrowbodies have been fitted with flat beds. Are there any regional jets with flat bed seats?


PR has flatbeds on their A321neos

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by Qantas16
Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Samoa Airways from November 2018 is launching new route to Australia, with the nonstop Apia – Brisbane service. This route will be served twice a week initially from 13NOV18, with Boeing 737-800 aircraft. OL843 APW1855 – 2050BNE 738 27 OL844 BNE2150 – 0645+1APW 738 27 Service will be operated by Ai...

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by Qantas16
Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Samoa Airways from November 2018 is launching new route to Australia, with the nonstop Apia – Brisbane service. This route will be served twice a week initially from 13NOV18, with Boeing 737-800 aircraft. OL843 APW1855 – 2050BNE 738 27 OL844 BNE2150 – 0645+1APW 738 27 Service will be operated by Ai...

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by Qantas16
Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Thai Airways has sent the 772 to PER over the past couple of days replacing the 788 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnCh_QDUcAIviR-.jpg https://twitter.com/JonoPerth/status/1040509637064155136 Likewise BNE has been seeing lots of 777 action from TG recently and will also see the 787-9 tomorrow for the ...

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by Qantas16
Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Thai Airways has sent the 772 to PER over the past couple of days replacing the 788 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnCh_QDUcAIviR-.jpg https://twitter.com/JonoPerth/status/1040509637064155136 Likewise BNE has been seeing lots of 777 action from TG recently and will also see the 787-9 tomorrow for the ...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

I believe the issue is Malindo has decided they make more money/get a better yield selling the flight as BNE/MEL-DPS and BOM-KUL-DPS for example as opposed to BNE-DPS-KUL-BOM. TRIGGER ALERT (for some posters): As for Air China- I heard CA staff admitted BNE wasn't coming back after March at a recen...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Malindo's network is concentrated on SE Asia and India where there is also some expansion happening. Not all the PER flights connect well with the network so if these extra frequencies are added (which equates to another 2 daily 737's) then yes, everywhere would presumably connect. Their BNE & ...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

MH to use A333 on MH126/127 to PER from 14 Dec to 22 Dec 18 https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status/1039649876777283584 Summer increase for KUL-PER-KUL. They are already competing with D7 which uses an A330 on their daily D7236 flight from KUL to PER and will increase it to 11 weekly during the sum...

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by Qantas16
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Anyone know what is going on with DHL/Tasman Cargo's 757 and 767 service? I thought when VH-TCA left in July and was replaced by 767 that it was a permanent change but the 757 is back and the 767 has been stored in AKL for 3 weeks now... http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/5b8a129d3d2d2e03158b46b0/d...

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by Qantas16
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Anyone know what is going on with DHL/Tasman Cargo's 757 and 767 service? I thought when VH-TCA left in July and was replaced by 767 that it was a permanent change but the 757 is back and the 767 has been stored in AKL for 3 weeks now...

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by Qantas16
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Air China's suspended BNE-PEK will only return seasonally from 18 JAN 2019 to 29 MAR 2019 per source at CA.

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by Qantas16
Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

With NTL gearing up for AKL flights, is there any other news from this little regional success story? WA with its aviation/tourism fund, should the local councils and state government be investing in a similar stratergy? "Regional success story" is a big stretch... it's a 3x weekly servic...

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by Qantas16
Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

BNE airport completes first taxiways for new runway http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/09/brisbane-airport-completes-construction-of-first-taxiways-for-new-runway/ It will be very interesting to see how they 'operationally' utilise the new runway when it is in use e.g predominantly domestic ops ...

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by Qantas16
Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Several flights are being diverted due to weather at SYD QF580 PER-SYD diverted to CBR CI51 TPE-SYD diverted to CBR VA556 PER-SYD diverted to MEL VA970 BNE-SYD diverted to MEL Wonder if CBR is getting their credit card machine ready!!! JQ120 NAN-SYD diverted to BNE and continued later to SYD NZ105 ...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Airlines reveals configuration on 2 class A359, ADL to be first route
Replies: 47
Views: 8124

Re: Singapore Airlines reveals configuration on 2 class A359, ADL to be first route

AirbusA322 wrote:
35 Years in ADL. Qantas is nowhere to be seen.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

You're right, QF is no where to be seen with their 30+ daily flights out of ADL.

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Jetstar has been doing this for years... as do many international airlines operating into Australia including FJ, CI, OD, PR and I'm sure many more... Are you sure? I've flown CI and JQ in recent years on Australia - New Zealand flights, and haven't had this happen to me. Cheers, C. JQ has dedicate...

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by Qantas16
Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

TT is trialling a new check-in process that uses a tag system to ensure all passengers cabin bags have been checked and given the green light for boarding. Under the system, carry-on bags that have been weighed and checked for size will be tagged, and the tags will be stamped with the date so they ...

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by Qantas16
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Air Asia X is increasing SYD/OOL/PER services over the Christmas period. OOL-KUL increased to 11x weekly (was daily) PER-KUL increased to 11x weekly (was daily) SYD-KUL increased to 2x daily (was 11x weekly) Source: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/280394/airasia-x-dec-2018jan-2019-...

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by Qantas16
Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 307
Views: 24811

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2018

The stairs are ground handler property, not the airports. Many of the steps are covered, more for NZ than Menzies and Aerocare but that's up to them. Thanks for that - I didn't know who they were owned by. There must be a way to compel the owners of the stairs to upgrade / standardize them, particu...

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by Qantas16
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Doing a few dummy bookings for BKK-SYD in November, it appears that the 4 weekly TG471 / 472 service is closed for booking. My understanding is: PER-BKK swapped to A330 but will remain daily. BNE-BKK reduced from 1x daily to 4x weekly. MEL-BKK reduced from 2x daily to 10x weekly. SYD-BKK reduced fr...

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by Qantas16
Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Brisbane ... Samoa needs the link, profitability is probably not the most important factor. APW already has a link to BNE on VA - this adds nothing. Further, profitability most definitely is important, as PH nearly bankrupted Samoa in the 2000's. If they want a new port, I would've suggested WLG - ...

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by Qantas16
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Looks like BNE being reduced to 4x weekly. TG473/474 operating SUN, MON, WED, FRI 788. Bit confused as to why though. Load Factors not the worst. 6x weekly may have been better suited but not 4x. Bit odd aye. MEL is 14 weekly A350 and SYD. 11x 744, maybe replaces by a smaller frame? Or an A380 1 da...

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by Qantas16
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018
Replies: 630
Views: 55152

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Lots of cuts to TG's Australia services from end of October onwards... don't have full details but apparently all ports are impacted.

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by Qantas16
Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

They should revert to daily BNE-LAX, SYD-LAX and with the 5th frame they can add an extra 3x frequencies on SYD-LAX (this makes it easier if they have a frame in MX to cut back to just the daily BNE/SYD-LAX flights). I doubt SYD - LAX needs to be boosted from 14x to 17x weekly in the DL-VA JV - 14x...

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by Qantas16
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Judging by their LFs, the frequencies to BNE and MEL are not ideal at all. Either they stick to a daily flight or ditch the planes altogether. They've taken QF on in terms of cabin interiors but not on scheduling. A332 utilisation would be great if they were making money. The whole HKG exercise jus...

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by Qantas16
Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 269
Views: 22608

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/106572987/airport-departure-cards-will-be-off-the-table-come-november New Zealand departure cards are gone from November this year - although surely they could of axed them allot earlier than November. Now that Australia has got rid of them - how many counties ge...

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by Qantas16
Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

According to QF's website there are a few adjustments next week for QF9/10 For QF9 MEL-PER, Mon, Wed, Fri and Sun being operated by A330, mix of A332 and A333 replacing 789 QF10 PER-MEL on the same days as above will be operated by 738 instead of 789. So overall the 789 will terminate/originate in ...

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by Qantas16
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Malindo Air in the first quarter of 2019 is reducing Kuala Lumpur – Denpasar – Brisbane route on temporary basis, as the airline scheduled 4 weekly flights instead of 7. Service reduction is in effect from 02FEB19 to 30MAR19. Source: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/280225/malindo-...

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by Qantas16
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 269
Views: 22608

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018

I don't quite get this. CX and CI fly 359's here too - do they have different engineering requirements to TG's 359's? Will NZ's lack of a 359 engineering facility stop other carriers flying 359's here, like SQ, MH, CA, PR and / or LA? Cheers, C. Airlines who want to send their own A350s will either...

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by Qantas16
Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pacific Islands Aviation Thread 2018
Replies: 62
Views: 6068

Re: Pacific Islands Aviation Thread 2018

Can anyone shed some light on the connection between PNG and the Philippines? There are 7 flights a week between POM and MNL, a higher frequency than any other international destination ex-POM except for BNE. PR is also the only non-Australian international carrier to operate into POM. Is there some...

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by Qantas16
Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Qantas to operate one time SYD-BNE 744 service https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status/1031530516049215489?s=21 It appears to be a tag on to BNE-LAX-BNE 27SEP QF55 SYD-BNE 1345 1520 27SEP QF55 BNE-LAX 1750 1330 29SEP QF56 LAX-BNE 2215 0500+2 01OCT QF56 BNE-SYD 0730 0910 Indeed and will operate from...

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by Qantas16
Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 269
Views: 22608

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2018

I see that 789 ZK-NZH is in KUL at the moment (taxied past it on my way out today). Anybody know what it's doing there? I see it's next destination is Singapore. Operated AKL-KUL as NZ1941 and then will operated KUL-SIN-AKL as NZ1942... per FlightRadar24... pretty sure NZ uses that flight number se...

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by Qantas16
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Although not guaranteed, I do have to wonder if a CEB-BNE link may work from a loads and/or yield perspective, even if it only starts at 2 or 3 weekly. https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/mactan-cebu-airport-a-new-terminal-and-strong-international-growth-432701 Would love to see this rou...

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by Qantas16
Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Air Niugini ending flights to TSV from 1 OCT 18. SYD being reduced to 2x weekly from 3x weekly. This is due to IASC knocking back PX/QF codeshare. BNE and CNS not affected. http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/08/air-niugini-ending-flights-to-townsville/ It doesn't say its solely due to that facto...

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by Qantas16
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018
Replies: 660
Views: 57129

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

With the talk of QF schedule changes, and the ease of them, QF is spending significant manpower and finances to try and improve the product further. They are about to introduce a new Amadeus platform where it will change multiple pax with multiple connections in a single transaction for delays and ...

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