If Southwest wants to compete with Hawaiian in the inter-island market, they won't be able to use 737NG or MAXs. The 717 would eat the 737's lunch doing that type of work. A A220 sub fleet, only in Hawaii, with a maintenance base and pilot pool based there could be a threat if the engine can handle ...
Jump to postHilo is actually a charming airport. The departure lounge is unique and special. There is not a lot of mainland traffic, but it is certainly bustling with activity. The largest air carrier is probably Blue Hawaii helicopters. The Hilo side of the Big Island offers the best air tours, arguably, in th...
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Jump to postI think the main issue with personal aviation breaks down to three problems. 1) Training, 2) Attitude and 3) Maintenance. The first thing I try to figure out when I take on a student is if this person is going to kill me or himself by climbing into an airplane. I've rejected many students after just...
Jump to postHeavens I wanted to love the A380, but when you go by pure looks, the 747-8i has no competition.
Jump to postLihue Kauai has only about 7,000 people that live there, but their airport sees 2M passengers per year. Hawaiian, Delta, United, Alaska, United and US Airways (among others) have regular service.
Jump to postThis happened to me in 1999. I was flying a C172N back from PHNM to PHTO on a picnic day trip with mum. We were flying under an overcast layer VFR about 5500 ft mid channel between Maui and the Big Island when a bird just swooped down out of nowhere and ended our conversation about the jam mom was g...
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Jump to postThe 727 was also the first jetliner to feature a gas turbine auxiliary power unit. If I remember correctly it was installed in the center of the fuselage below deck and vented out through the starboard wing tip. I remember sitting on the ground in an American 727-200 and feeling the thing vibrate un...
Jump to post1965 technology, that's hilarious. Wait, aluminum, isn't that 1825 technology?
Jump to postReally great video. I couldn't help but notice the unusual and complex door mechanism on that aircraft, pretty cool.
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Jump to postWell, as I understand it, the WXB has grown a bit since it was first pitched. Its possible that the GEnx is no longer suitable for the airliner anyway. I seriously doubt that the powerplant on the new Airbus will be THAT far ahead of what will be hanging from the 787, we're only talking 5 years betw...
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Jump to postPerhaps they should charge based on total cubic feet you take up. That way heavy guys who don't flow over into other's seats don't have to pay more. Heck they do that with packages on Fedex?
Jump to postWas the engine technology available during the 80s to make a DC-10 twin viable? The A300 is smaller and lighter thus the engines of the time could carry the bird with no problem. The 777 is essentially a twin DC-10, but the engines were not available until the mid 90s to make it happen.
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The Kona International Airport at Keahole on the Big Island of Hawaii receives B767s (AA,TWA), B757s(AA), B737s(AQ Cargo) after the tower closes at 10:00pm. There have been several times where I spoke directly to a 767 driver coordinating airport movements and departure / arrival info for my late C1...
Jump to postOn the 717-300 issue. In reality, the 717-300 would not compete with the 737 if it was still optimized for high frequency, short haul routes. The 737NG is not a good plane for this type of work, the main reason Aloha does not use the plane for their inter-island network. The 717-300 and 737-700 coul...
Jump to postT-Prop, Do you realize that Island Air only has 4 Dash-8s with only 3 flying at any time and the fourth used as a spare? I'm not sure if Pacific Wings is the third largest, but they have more planes and serve more destinations than Island Air. Island Air is pretty much hobbled by it's association wi...
Jump to postIn the early eighties, when Hilo was being touted as "The Second Gateway to Hawaii", they received DC-10s and 747s from United and other carriers. Even the ill fated 747-122 N4713U was a frequent visitor.
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Aloha has flown more interesting aircraft than the Boeing 737-200 and -700 fleet they currently have. Yes, they did fly B737-300s and -400s for a short while, but in their early days they operated DC-3s, F27s and Viscounts. Their first jet aircraft, surprisingly, was the BAC 1-11, not the B737-200. ...
Jump to postYou may be hearing the 777 fuel boost pumps that are required to be on during takeoff and approach / landing.
These pumps are particularly loud on the MD80/90/95(717).
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A few years ago they held the state canoe racing championships in Hilo. Because of the huge amount of traffic for the days preceeding the race, Hawaiian was using DC-10s for inter-island work to Hilo. The approach to Runway 8 routes the aircraft right over Hilo Bayfront Beach where all the tents wer...
Jump to postAlmost missed my flight the other day because I was waiting in the Hawaiian lounge in Hilo and I didn't hear the 717 arrive at the gate just a few feet away! The BR715 gets my vote.
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Jump to postHawaii Flight Academy is located at KOA, not HNL. Keahole-Kona is class Delta and is virtually always VFR. They have a fleet of C172s (and a sweet 1998 Skyhawk) and PA28s. They use a twin-Comanche for multi-engine training. I got my private and instrument ratings with them. They're pretty good, but ...
Jump to postYes, that's right, FEB 24, 1989. I think it was flight 811.
Jump to postThat was United's B747-122 N4713U, The cargo door malfunctioned, opened in flight and ripped a 15ft X 13 ft hole out of the fueslage, sucking 9 passengers out and 5 pairs of business class seats. Engines 3 and 4 failed, but the AC returned to Honolulu safely.
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Would it be cheaper? Let's see, You'd really need to compare the 727 with the A320 as they are pretty much designed for the same mission. You could re-engine a 727 for about 10-12m. That would make it stage III compliant and save you lots of fuel. BUT you still have three engines to maintain, and 3 ...
Jump to postI wouldn't be surprised if Hawaiian was in there trying to get some of those ex-TWA birds too. Plans are to eliminate the entire Aloha 732/-700 fleet and replace them with 712s. There have been reports that 752s will also be added if the Hawaiian / Aloha deal goes through.
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Don't forget, by taking up cargo space for fuel tanks (ie. BBJ, ACJ) you loose all that valuable cargo space, which we all know, makes the airline more money than hauling people around.
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I think it's a good idea to keep the "Hawaiian" brand name. I'd really hate to see Pualani go, though. The new Hawaiian scheme is so great!
I think it would look nice to have the bird of paradise shadowed on the tail with Pualani in the foreground, using the Aloha colors.
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Lots of times. Aloha and Hawaiian do it all the time. I think Hawaiian had the first all female flight crew ever. I've been on Girls only flights, with female flight crews and attendants, and flights with a female flight crew and all male attendants. Pretty cool if you ask me. just my 2C BMD82
Jump to postI don't know about that. It may be a crosswind, but It doesn't look like a very stable approach.
Crabbing into the wind, then kicking it out with the rudder at the end like that is a pretty ballsy move in a 747-400, probably not very safe, or comfortable for the passengers.
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Aloha has an all 737 fleet. Sadly, I think we'll be bidding "Aloha" to those after the merger with Hawaiian. Hawaiian has an excellent strategy with the B717 for inter-island flights, probably the best/only aircraft for the job, and the B767-300 for International and Domestic flights to the US Mainl...
Jump to postThe 5 one hour trip example that you mentioned for Southwest, is perfectly suited for the B737NG, they may be short hops, but that's only 5 cycles (takeoffs and landings) per day. The B717 with it's BR715 engines can handle many more without tearing up the engines. Hawaiian works their B717s 10 or m...
Jump to postSorry, I was being a smart a$$, and not a very good one. I was counting the aisles on the upper decks of those Jumbos...
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Is it possible that, that particular 57 was built as a freighter?, then converted to the passenger varient, thus no fresh air vents?
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Yes, he used some sort of transformer for house current. The lights work great. He used a B737-200 gasper fan for the fresh air vents, but he doesn't use them. They are way too loud for practical use, it's a cool conversation piece though! If you flick a switch, the O2 masks drop, but it's a pain to...
Jump to postThis may be a little off base, but I have a friend who acquired some AA MD-80X seats and turned them into seats for his home theatre. He also built a bed that has some AC service units (B727) in the headboard with working reading lights and fresh air vents. The O2 masks are still packed inside! So I...
Jump to postI have a problem with B747-100/200/300s. Especially with JAL flying in those SUD 747-100/200s, it's easy to confuse those with 300s. The 100s and 200s are almost identical. You can't always just count the windows. With the almost total lack of Airbus aircraft in Hawaii, I sometimes (gasp!) get A300-...
Jump to postI actually do see the B737 staying in the Hawaiian fleet after the merger. If United or AA do not get into the inter-island business, we are going to see the need for aircraft larger than the 717 needed on heavy routes to OGG and LIH. Right now, if you look at the schedule, Hawaiian and Aloha have f...
Jump to postWell, technically if you count the APU, a Boeing MD-11 does have 4 engines....
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I have to work on the Big Island (Hilo) a few days a week and one morning our flight was delayed for a stupid reason. After the Hawaiian's hard working 717s finish for the day, they go into maintenance. When the planes are ready the mechanics pull the planes back to the terminal to wait for the earl...
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