https://www.businesstravelnewseurope.com/Air-Travel/Delta-brings-Air-Rail-programme-to-the-UK Not really heralded due to the continued problems with the rail industry, but there is already an option to "feed" MAN routes via TPE. "The agreement will allow Delta customers to add train ...
Jump to postat this point one remembers when BA part funded T1BA (now T3) when as part of the blurb pull-out section of the Manchester Evening News, they stated they would base a 777 to operate MAN-ISB.22
Jump to postPresumably we can look forward to MAN-LGW being brought back as that is what they did in the last iteration of LGW-ISB. Always found it a bit strange that a one or two daily MAN-LGW service hasn't existed to feed the LGW long-haul unless there is some alternative plan that involves some of the LGW s...
Jump to postTucked away in the annual report (as a footnote!) was the decision to not proceed with the Manchester Clubhouse (some nice commitment to MAN being shown!) with them taking a near £4 million hit from that decision. Also in an interview, Shai Weiss hasn't completely ruled out MAN-India as they will re...
Jump to postVirgin have announced their new West Coast link as Las Vegas so honestly I wouldn’t hold your breath for LA. Don’t know why there is so much chat about new routes at Manchester on this thread as Heathrow is clearly where it’s at for them, even more so after COVID. When you consider a lot of routes ...
Jump to postTheir MAN ops stopped around March 2015 when ATL was transferred to VS. They were due to operate 6 weekly MAN-BOS using 757s in 2020 but circumstances dictated otherwise. MAN-JFK has been operated for 2 to 3 year periods a couple of times as well.
Jump to postJust to throw this out there. From the CAA annual passenger statistics for 2023, here are the numbers for MAN+ London area to Tenerife
MAN 947625
LGW 710578
STN 518149
LTN 173604
LHR 63511
London approx 1,47 million so about 50% bigger than MAN
and in the meantime Shefffield Council is banning airline adverts https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/sheffield-declares-war-on-consumerism-council-bans-adverts-for-harmful-campaigns-including-cars-airlines-and-junk-food-to-meet-green-targets-despite-facing-a-17-4m-funding-shortfall/ar-BB1khLSD . ...
Jump to postThey do only report who gets on and not include transit passenger so with SQ, they may have decided to split capacity along the lines of: SIN-IAH = 20% as we don't know how many passengers have booked, we cant' quantify loads SIN-MAN = 80%. Taking January, if there are 13965 seats in total this bloc...
Jump to postJust to reinforce Scottie's initial sentence about split loads, when I last looked at the US T-100 statistics a few years ago, the SIN-IAH portion was 25% to 30% of the capacity, around 3000 passengers or so a month. So... if we do some fancy sums, the aircraft arrives in SIN upwards of 90% full and...
Jump to posthttps://mediacentre.manchesterairport.co.uk/record-breaking-february-for-manchester-airport-fuelled-by-bumper-half-term-getaway/ February passenger numbers were 1.9 million and everyone through security in 15 mins, Also in the release is news of Royal Air Maroc starting services to Casablanca
Jump to postHeresy to say but them deciding to employ 744s to replace 772s may not have been the wisest thing to do as adding about 120 seats per flight but only around half of additional seats being economy when it would have been more favourable to add an extra frequency with a 772. Lower fares but with great...
Jump to postSome of the lesser known carriers like Gulf Air and Kuwait might find better fares at LBA, particularly if they are flying on smaller frames. Gulf Air is using 789s and getting loads well in excess of 90%. If they can get better fares at LBA then maybe they should look to move their LHR ops to LBA ...
Jump to postLooking at the CAA statistics (rounding the numbers) and omitting the Covid period 2019 SIN 93000 IAH 68000 2022 SIN 61500 IAH 30000 2023 SIN 93500 IAH 35500 MAN doesn't need a tag if passenger numbers on the MAN-SIN sector when operating 5 weekly SIN-MAN-IAH in 2019 and 3 weekly SIN-MAN-IAH & 2...
Jump to postand we have reasoned with you that airlines my not need to operate daily to maximise profitability. IST was a stop off point for SQ when they 1st started operating to MAN so if they have not yet gone on to daily services there, what does that say about that route? During the Gulf War in 1990/1991, S...
Jump to postThe airlines at MAN are operating frequencies at which they believe they will make the most money. If by increasing a frequency means the route will then start to attract "bargain basement" fares which then adversely affect a route's profitability then they would sensibly not increase freq...
Jump to postWhy are you choosing to ignore SQ not deciding to operate 2 weekly via another point when the MAN-IAH leg was pared back to 3 weekly. If MAN was so "bad" why maintain the 5 weekly frequency? Maybe why they operate MAN with that tag means that they don't need to get the passengers paying th...
Jump to postSQ has been flying to MAN since 1st April 1986. If it wasnt making money I am sure that it would have been pulled by now. Even more to the point, when SIN-MAN-IAH went from 5 weekly to 3 weekly, SQ still kept MAN at 5 weekly with a 2 weekly terminator service. And this is despite the ME3 starting MA...
Jump to postEI had a number of 5th freedom routes ex-MAN (up to 1978 and then from 1988) The latter period had these: HAM, CPH, ZRH, MXP (though this took years to be granted), CDG and AMS (the latter 2 were up to 3 daily). BRS had a BRU service Mention should also be made of the winter 1994/1995 A330 service t...
Jump to postFurther to the predicted smaller rise in passenger numbers by 2040 with no HS2 link, I have now located the Manchester Evening News article from 10th December 2015 when plans were submitted for the Transformation Programme to Manchester City Council https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/b...
Jump to postI believe capacity is for 61 movements an hour and the planned usage is 55 and above from 5am to 7pm this summer. Most of the time there is scope for an extra 3 for flights per hour so I am not quite sure how passenger numbers could have doubled without banishing sub 100 seat aircraft which would he...
Jump to postGulf Air isn't really tapping into the mass connecting market, If they were, I would have expected them to have pitched in at a frequency of a minimum 4 weekly when they relaunched in 2022 (relaunch is not exactly the right word as they had to go AUH-AMS-MAN back in the early 1990s as BAH-MAN wasn't...
Jump to postpretty sure ORK-MAN and SNN-MAN were up to 3 times daily using Stobart's ATRs. Once Ryanair started on those route, there was no way they could compete on price and i doubt there was significant business traffic needing a same-day return option
Jump to postAnother thing to contemplate for where EI may be tempted to expand MAN ops is the potential to get BA passengers that currently transfer at LHR to go non-stop instead There was an Anna Aero article that's no longer online from 25th March 2021 which allowed me to quote this regarding connections: !Th...
Jump to post"I’m not so sure about any of LAX or BOS from MAN to be honest.. Going back to 2019 when Thomas Cook and Virgin were competing BOS loads were in the mid 80% (around 6000-7000 passengers a month), LAX in the mid 90% load (around 10000 passengers a month) and SFO around 90% (8000 passengers a mo...
Jump to postIt’s a small base so multiple types (even airbus) would be an unwelcome complication. Yet what was initially proposed was 2 A330s + 2 A321LR. The it became 3 A330s and 1 A321LR. The reality was 1 A321LR + 1 A330. Obviously they had no problems is seeing a 2 aircraft base with 2 types. Now if the su...
Jump to postAvgeek2233 wrote:Privilege style are covering EI119 DUB IAD for a few days from 18/12 in place of EI LRD.
MAN was a 763 route in the last year of ops with extended periods of 764 ops and were floating the idea of starting an additional route. Based on what appears to be the norm, any resumed route would probably operate late April to early January. Always surprised ne that they never replaced bmi on ORD...
Jump to postI think the 787-10 is ideal for EK to secondary European cities where you do not need the capacity or payload/range of an A380 or 77W. Think Dublin, Hamburg, Glasglow, Manchester, Lyon among others. All of these cities are roughly 3000-3500 nmi from Dubai which is the 787-10 sweet spot. Are you sur...
Jump to postFlying to LGW, MAN or DUB likely isn’t even in the picture, even without the possibility of new slots at LHR. Yields would likely see QF continue to funnel this kind of traffic via DXB instead.. Looking at the PDF referenced earlier in the thread, roughly 45% are connecting on a service that comman...
Jump to postIt is unlikely to be a route but if we want to establish the merits of MAN. there were over 250,000 passengers going to/from Australia in the year to November 2019. Comfortably in 2nd place in terms of the UK to Australia but nearly 6 times less than LHR. This was from an Anna Aero piece in December...
Jump to postSending a 77L to MAN tonight to replace the Omni 767 which has gone tech. c C-FNNH expected into MAN around 22.30 local
Jump to postI cant see MAN-LAX being announced by them given the noise generated by the airline and airport about the LAS route news being a "west coast USA" service.
Jump to postso far there are 41 flights from MAN to IST and SAW between 8th and 10th June for the Champions League final with TK operating 6 flights on 9th June and PC operating 8 on the same day
Jump to postThere is 1 BA charter from MAN to IST on 9th June
Jump to post[UA should resume MAN and 321XLR would be ideal for this, previously was served by 757,. Went 757s to DC10s to 777s to 2 757s to the EWR/IAD split with 757s with IAD then withdrawn with EWR maintaining 757s then going to 763s with 764 upgrades (with the 764 operating for longer periods then origina...
Jump to postAer Lingus has positioned in A330 EI-DUZ today, just a few days after their MAN base became 2 British registered A330s as one of them has gone tech.
Jump to postAer Lingus A330 Ei-DUZ just positioned into MAN
Jump to postHow about an EK fifth freedom route from Dubai to Edinburgh to the US ? Would be interesting! At least this would be one of the few non-UK/US airlines flying between the UK and USA, and the competition isn't as bad as LHR-US or MAN-US as very few airlines are flying nowadays between EDI and the US....
Jump to postit's just a positioning service for the SOU weekend flying due to LCY non-operational hours at the weekend,
Jump to postGulf Air is going to be 4 weekly on MAN-BAH as of 4th May. No surprise given how full the current 2 weekly service is.
http://www.tradearabia.com/news/TTN_408403.html
That escalated quickly... not really. They've expressed similar sentiments on other threads on this site. It's part of the generic airliners.net theme that any non-capital city airport isn't allowed to have any long-haul routes by so-called "elite" airlines. That EI or UA haven't thought ...
Jump to postcrew shortage. Restarts back up in June. Funny it only seems to affect MAN ops. Similarly they've used the "no aircraft" excuse before when stopping routes or not even starting announced MAN routes yet LHR sees continual expansion with the same lack of aircraft. also need to add they did a...
Jump to postHowever, perhaps they could switch MAN-IAH to DUB-IAH. IAH is the biggest US city without a DUB service. Meanwhile, SQ is already well established in MAN and has less of a need for a tag to support it there now. What is your fixation on stopping MAN having an IAH route? When SQ wanted to change it'...
Jump to postdoesn't QF hold at least 3 (if not 4) daily slot pairs at LHR with those they are not currently utilizing being leased out?
Jump to postET's plan to go to from 4 weekly to 5 weekly on the ADD-GVA-MAN sector is apparently on hold due slot issues at GVA but I'm wondering at what stage ET will return to the idea of making MAN a non-stop service? The latest CAA statistics show that over 7000 passengers were on the service in December wh...
Jump to postDoes anyone have the PDEW figures for Australia/PER with European cities? It would be interesting to see where CDG sits. best I can find is this https://www.anna.aero/2019/12/13/qantas-chooses-a350-for-project-sunrise-flights/ which covers passenger numbers for the year up to November 2019 Ignoring...
Jump to postI just looked at the live feed from MAN…… “heavy snow”…… LOL! Err.. yes for MAN that is heavy snow. I do not know where you think MAN is but here is a nice hint for you. It is nowhere near mountains or in the Arctic. in terms of Thursday, I daresay it would have only been an hour or so closed for s...
Jump to postSome of the commuter airlines at MAN during the 1980s/early 1990s Northern Air Lines to Blackpool up to 2 daily using Islanders Air Furness to Barrow up to 4 times daily using Islanders (with plans for Caernarfon and Welshpool) Interline Aviation up to 2 daily to Norwich using J31 Suckling Airways s...
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