Does anybody know when, if ever, the project to build the temporary runway at OGG is going to start so the current main 02/20 can finally be resurfaced/rebuilt? I remember reading about this project eons ago and from all I can see in YouTube spotting vids there is nothing being done. According to t...
Jump to postI wonder how Boeingʻs issues have affected ASʻs longterm fleet plans. I canʻt see how any large airline will continue to rely on a single aircraft manufacturer and even OEM (engines) after all the ongoing issues. I could see a scenario where AS keeps the Boeing fleet (pilots, maintenance) West Coast...
Jump to postPoint being, the absence of an intraHawaii HA codeshare would hurt UA/DL on those longer east coast to HNL (or OGG) routes, as many of those pax are connecting to a HA intrastate flight. How many pax are "many"? DOJ requires data. How many markets have HNL as the ONLY connecting option vs...
Jump to postcledaybuck wrote:BeachBoy wrote:kavok wrote:No one can go to united.com or delta.com or aa.com and purchase just an interisland ticket.
You can with miles.
I will be very curious to see what ultimately happens with the HA codeshares on the intra-Hawaii island flying, particularly with UA and DL. I think the interisland codeshares are a non-issue. No one can go to united.com or delta.com or aa.com and purchase just an interisland ticket. With all 3 maj...
Jump to postAndrewJM70 wrote:I often wonder why OGG has persisted with such a short runway when there is plenty of land free for extension especially to the SW.
This is meant to be a technical question, but is there something w/ the A321neo that requires/causes hard landings? Ironically the worst landing I've ever had was a HA A321neo in OGG 1 or 2 years ago which I assumed was related to the short runway and strong winds. In general I find the A321neo (not...
Jump to posthiflyeras wrote:Alaska extends flight cancellations but only until this Sunday. I think this could be a very good sign!
I wonder if the current 737 MAX debacle changes AS management's calculus on the future of the A321neo fleet.
One of the many reasons I prefer flying HA is I don't have to worry about being stuck on a MAX or 787 (at least until April).
It seems to me that Alaska is as dependent on being a 737 operator nearly as much if not more than Southwest and I just cannot see that long term strategy, that's been so successful, changing? AS owns 737s and E175s (operated by QX) so there is no way AS is more dependent than WN on the 737. As AS ...
Jump to postThis may be controversial (involves kicking Chester and Pualani off the tails) but I could see a unified fleet scheme utilizing the same wavy blues and greens presently found on AS craft, but with the addition of a Hawaiian purple. I was thinking something similar, except replace Chester in the cir...
Jump to postI mean, do you really think the AS brand would be a great idea for routes like HNL-CTS and FUK that support Japanese tourism to Hawaii? I have my doubts. HNL-CTS and FUK are NOT profitable and will likely be on the chopping block. Whether marketed as HA or AS, in the Japanese market all the US airl...
Jump to postWhen all is said and done in 5 years, I think the HA brand will be limited to Hawaii interisland flying. Although I feel AS management seems sincere in their desire to keep 2 brand identities any other scenario seems operationally too complicated (if a plane goes mechanical, will they swap it w/ a p...
Jump to postAs a Hawaii resident and loyal HA customer I have mixed feelings. But looking back since 2020 the writing was on the wall. HA has not been investing in it's product since the pandemic (the 787s were signed for pre-pandemic)--IT, airport ops--it felt like they were falling further and further behind ...
Jump to postWhat else is interesting is that the return is a redeye (directly competing w/ DL) vs. HA's preferred late morning/afternoon departure from HNL and evening arrival back on the mainland.
Jump to postI'm surprised HA would fly to a fortress hub before trying secondary markets like SBA/FAT/BLI/EUG/PAE but obviously their data shows SLC has the best chance of success. It's a A321neo so I'm guessing the risk is pretty low. I wonder if the Lahaina fires affected their plans (maybe ONT-OGG and/or a 2...
Jump to postKOA-TYO is a money losing route for JL and HA, but I guess HA feels the HND slot is too valuable to give up.
Not sure why HA didn't ask to make it HND-OGG-KOA-HND.
One can answer some of those questions - with a bit of reporting delay - from 'US International Air Passenger and Freight Statistics' reports for the 12-mos ending 12/2022. U.S. - TYO is nothing like it used to be. It isn't even 1/3 of LON. Japan only fully reopened in 10/2022 so this is not up-to-...
Jump to posthttps://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... challenges
CEO specifically mentions they are considering A220, A320ceo, and E2 E195. Keeping the 717 for 30+ years does not seem to be under consideration either.
HA will not buy a known orphan fleet--A318. A large 717 fleet was anticipated to be flown by AirTran, TWA, and maybe NW when HA bought it. They went w/ the 787 because of a too good to pass up price and they did not want an orphan fleet of A330-800s. They will probably go for used, cheap, low cycle ...
Jump to posthttps://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/approaching-its-95th-anniversary-hawaiian-buffeted-challenges Posted in the Hawaii Aviation Thread. My impression is that A220s are too expensive and that they are leaning towards the A320ceos til the mid 2030s, unless Embraer gives them a too ...
Jump to postazjubilee wrote:Where are you seeing that reduced schedule? A search on their website shows the full HND schedule back as it was prior to Covid. This includes the 3/wk KOA-HND and late night HNL-HND 4/wk. The winter schedule starts October 29th.
Cargo is not a major issue in their new fleet decision as long as the plane has enough capacity to carry all the paxʻs bags. AQ was always the bigger interisland cargo carrier and the current KH/Aloha Air Cargo will be able to easily pick up the slack if HAʻs new interisland fleet is not able to. BU...
Jump to postLooks like HA will be using their late night slot (3rd daily slot that no other carrier wanted) w/ just 1 weekly KOA-HND flight from Nov-Feb. The 4 times/week HNL-HND late night flight seems to be dropped til March. I wonder if any other carrier will object. Maybe UA could use it for GUM. Iʻm assumi...
Jump to postCEO mentions "latter half of the decade" in the article so it seems like itʻs gonna be new build planes which leads me to believe E2s or A220s. Does anyone know what the CASM would be for A220s doing ETOPS flts between the West Coast and Hawaii? Is it even competitive to the A321neos or 73...
Jump to postIs there a way to listen to the ATC recording of Air Force One arriving and departing OGG?
Jump to postAaron747 wrote:Really? The C-32s I'm sure are maintained to similar standards as the VC-25s.
As an avgeek, any update on what plane will be bringing the President to Maui? 747/VC-25 or 757/C-32A? No information has been released here in Hawaii. We donʻt even know what time he is expected to arrive. He will be leaving from RNO so the 757 would be able to make it. However, I find it hard to b...
Jump to postHA has not been the same airline since the pandemic. Unreliable operations, technologically waaay behind competitors, customer service is like flying w/ a ULCC, and it feels like we're back to the HA of the 1980-90s. As a Hawai'i resident, I am a huge HA supporter since we need a hometown airline. J...
Jump to postIt’s gonna be LAX because LAX has the most HA flights to Hawai’i (6 daily flights) to allow for faster service recovery should an issue arise just like they did with their A330.
Jump to postSLCaviation wrote:Once again, still super surprised that SLC-OGG isn’t year round yet.
With WN in the market, props are just not an option. Mid Pacific Air, Mahalo Air, Island Air, and HA's own Dash 7 prove that the market prefers jets even w/ more expensive fares. I think HA will go w/ used A319/A320s as an interim measure. This is the lowest cost and buys them time to see how the al...
Jump to postHA is doing so poorly financially right now I think the mostly likely scenario is Southwest buying HA and doing to HA what it did to FL and AS did to VX. This will immediately eliminate a competitor and instantly make their interisland operations very lucrative w/ their monopoly pricing power and gi...
Jump to postBad mistakes and poor judgement? Sure. Trying to cover up a known unsafe design? Absurd. Have you watched Downfall: The Case Against Boeing on Netflix? I try to keep an open mind whenever I read or watch something that I feel has influenced my feelings about an issue so if you have information to d...
Jump to postAfter watching Downfall: The Case Against Boeing on Netflix and reading up on how the McDonnell Douglas leadership takeover of Boeing forever changed it's culture has me trying to boycott Boeing planes when booking flights. It's nearly impossible to do. And I know I'm just one lowly consumer so it's...
Jump to postHawaiian today announced frankly shockingly bad financial results this week. https://newsroom.hawaiianairlines.com/releases/hawaiian-holdings-reports-2022-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-financial-results They have plenty of liquidity, but considering the current premium tourism market boom, full flig...
Jump to postI wonder if all the lie flat seat options (at a relatively reasonable cost) out of LAX on UA, HA, and DL (seasonally) have cut into any fare premium that may have existed when AQ flew the route pre-2008. Plus w/ all dirt cheap fares out of LGB, SNA to Hawaii is probably not the market it used to be.
Jump to postThe problem w/ HA is that the captains tend to keep the seatbelt signs on for the majority of the flight so in my experience it's become the "boy that cries wolf." I recently flew HA, NH, and DL to/from Tokyo and it was noticable that HA captains turn the seatbelt sign on after a little bu...
Jump to postI agree the food on HA is inedible. Their pax need to know to grab something to eat before boarding or they are gonna be starving by the time they land. Donʻt advertise stuff on your website like “Bring your appetite on board, because you’re in for a treat!” or “Hawaiian Airlines takes in-flight mea...
Jump to postI think the only way this makes financial sense is to launch LON-HNL-AKL.
Jump to postWhat is up with Hawaiian's operations? Does anyone have an inside scoop? Most of their interisland flights are delayed for various reasons and it seems like we're back in the 80s and 90s again. They're blaming it on the reconstruction of runway 8L in HNL, but that doesn't make sense. Almost 90% of m...
Jump to postAmazing report.
This inspired me to book a flt HNL-LUP-MKK-LNY-HNL for June.
A question for the posters from Hawaii - how locked in are residents to the HawaiianMiles program? I would think that played a role in why no new entrant has been successful (before SW that is). Did the new entrants charge less than Aloha and Hawaiian? Did Aloha and Hawaiian match their fares? But ...
Jump to postMohawkWeekend wrote:Mainline jets on such short routes made sense when their fuel inefficiencies were hidden by cheap fuel. That is no longer the case.
If HA goes for turboprops they may as well close up shop and exit the interisland market. In typical current day American society people just ignore or refuse to believe history. Once the interisland market entered the jetage, prop planes have always lost out to jets—HA’s Dash 7s and ATR 42s, Island...
Jump to postHow are Southwest’s 737-800 and 8MAX engines holding up doing interisland flights? Do they limit how many interisland flts they do before heading back to the West Coast? How much time do they allow for turnaround? Do any engines exist to replace the BR715? If one exists maybe Southwest can get Boein...
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