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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

. I think Airbus hopes Boeing goes in with a real capable 797 twin aisle, the bigger and more capable, the better. Keeping pushing around 737s in the enormous <260 seat < 3000Nm segment. Is that why you posted this in the 797 development thread? I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or eve...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I have seen huge projects launched, where nearly any expert just by gut feeling predicted that it would not deliver as promised, and they were proven right after some years. And we've all seen A380... and 787... maybe it's time for a different approach... Companies like Boeing can put 4-5 experts /...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Doing 10% or more work up front to fully close the business case .... And if it does not close? I am sorry, but possibly loosing 1-2 billions just to clarify the business case of a potential project is not how it works. That does, once more, not pass the smell test. I suspect they are 95% confident...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

For example will the plane have 45K or 50K engines? What engine manufacturer or manufacturers will be chosen? How many spoilers will there be 10, 12, 18...? Will wingtips fold? How many tires and axles? What structure will be composote vs aluminum vs titanium vs steel? If the business case is not c...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

if the business case was not a clear case in all the years since Boeing talks about the 757RS/MOM/NMA, what variable could change that in the next year? The design has matured enough to the point where they are ready to contractually commit on price, delivery date, performance numbers and capabilit...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or even more for NMA. IMO that risks building an aircraft that is way to heavy to be competitive on the bulk of flights. I think it should be optimized, or at least be very efficient for flights of around 2hrs / 1000NM. If that is where the product is ...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenberg defines MOM aircraft at a Politico Space event last week in Washington DC Check out the video half way down the page at about 24:00 https://www.geekwire.com/2018/boeing-ceo-dennis-muilenburg-mars-decade/ He says that a decision is due within one year. And that the quest...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2175
Views: 273169

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Thinking about it, United will probably go for dual source. A321s to fill in short 757/767 retirements and NMA after 2025, because it's higher capacity seems a very good fit for the America's. Delta & AA no different. United is different from American and Delta. United ordered 100 737-10s. Amer...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 55
Views: 9792

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

DL’s business class cabins seem to be shrinking in number of seats. UA’s business class on the 787-10 is relatively large in comparison. Does UA sell or giveaway (ie, upgrades) more J seats than DL? Or is this a multi-year transition now that F is going away, leading UA to eventually go to a smalle...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 55
Views: 9792

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

I think the Premium Plus looks very good, so good United risks many passengers will downgrade from Polaris into Premium Plus and save money, specially on the 787-10 that will most do flights < 8 hrs, e.g. S America and TATL. That's why I used the term overspecified. https://media1.ausbt.com.au/1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 55
Views: 9792

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url] https://media3.ausbt.com.au/1500,1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 55
Views: 9792

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url] https://media3.ausbt.com.au/1500,1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed
Replies: 55
Views: 9792

Re: United Airlines 787-10 configuration revealed

[url]The Premium Plus experience will include wider seats with more recline and legroom, with United also promising "upgraded dining on china dinnerware, free alcoholic beverages, a Saks Fifth Avenue blanket and pillow, an amenity kit and more."[/url] https://media3.ausbt.com.au/1500,1500...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I would very much suspect nothing is shelved anyway. Folks reading too much into some fairly woolly statements. :checkmark: I think the statements are more saying what disadvantaged customers want to hear today than anything else. It also tells us that an A320plus is not likely to be launched at Fa...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Can you please explain to me how the A320 supply chain is fundamentally more complex than that of the 737? As far as I can tell every 737 starts life in Wichita, Kansas, and then undertakes a c. 2 500km train ride to Seattle. (Really interesting video here :) ) http://www.spiritaero.com/media/video...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Honestly, I'd say the big 2 never really spent huge dedicated, coordinated efforts in designing the complete aircraft up-front for efficient production. Some elementary parts may be designed with production costs in mind, as Lightsaber said. But the overall aircraft architecture ( the "tube-wi...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

As an example of a concrete problem with that : In case of a problem on the production line, engineers need to be called to locally diagnose the issue and modify the design. I've heard that from Boeing "in case of issues we have an engineer down on the shop floor in minutes". But that is ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Reply #78 gives us a source named Airbus Chief Commercial Officer Eric Schulz. Welcome to 2018 where everyone cries 'fake news' the instant they hear something that doesn't fit their own personal narrative. It's pretty clear that some of the sources various people here love to hate (Leeham/Hamilton...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10692

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

It comes down to if the A330neo is better because of economy class seat width and perceived production cost benefits, why is the 787 outselling the A330neo over the last few years. Apart from Iranair, which had outside political influence, and Garuda, which was partially an A330ceo conversions, the...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study Amazing how an unconfirmed rumour from unnamed sources grows into a strategic shift in a day. Welcome to 2018’s copy, source and next news culture. Reply #78 gives us a source named Airbus Chief Commercial Officer Eric Schulz. “We cannot fix everything at the same ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10692

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

Sadly just like most threads involving the 787, this thread is back to debating a.nets favorite topics of economy class seat width and production (and deferred) cost. Sorry, but did I miss something? I've seen many claim this, but where's the proof? Sure, it may be cheaper than the 787, but the latt...

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Is BA's Africa Network So Relatively Limited?
Replies: 50
Views: 8811

Re: Why Is BA's Africa Network So Relatively Limited?

BA is pretty strong to dominant in the United States/Canada, South Africa as well as India market. They are strongest in their former colonies.

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Rebooting a 787
Replies: 22
Views: 3955

Re: Rebooting a 787

Unfortunately this can happen and does from time to time. The 787 has many more ways to clear faults with it electronic circuit breakers and myriad of ground tests, but older planes like the 747 were commonly powered down and powered back up to clear all the faults. For those who have not done it be...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I remember when people used to lash out that the A321NEO/LR as being a paper plane and would blow their tops when anyone would speculate about what the airplane could potentially do. Strangely, these same people have no problem waxing lyrical about the NMA (which is even more non-existent than the ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I would not be surprized if Boeing is a bit conservative on the 797. Using, 787, 777X and MAX technology. Most efficiency is to be gained from engines anyway. Providing enough space for some high BPR engines now and after 2030 is key. Long term MRO efficiencies could also drive design and material ...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA routes to Asia avoiding Russian airspace?
Replies: 52
Views: 10032

Re: AA routing China fits today thru LAX

Looks like PVG flights are avoiding Russian airspace for UA. UA is still going through Russia for PEK. Not sure what is going on US airlines could be banned from Russian airspace from April 18, following a decision by Russia’s Ministry of Transport to cancel talks with the US State Department. Accor...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10692

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

The carbon fiber construction, bleedless engines was supposed to make a big difference too in operating costs. LAN has said they see only that improvement to be expected from the new generation engines. There was very little advantage from bleedless engine or CFRP compared to their latest build win...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10692

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

Sorry, but did I miss something? I've seen many claim this, but where's the proof? Sure, it may be cheaper than the 787, but the latter offers better range and its seating layout is more convenient for airlines. If the A330neo was better than the 787 wouldn't the airlines have ordered it instead? D...

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by Newbiepilot
Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?
Replies: 103
Views: 18327

Re: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?

First off, I think shrinking the 787 or A330neo in general is a bad idea. Airplanes don’t scale down well. I am excited for the new 797 proposals. I think all of this 787/A330neo shrink discussion is to distract from the best and most likely scenario, which is a new design taking similar design and ...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.
Replies: 75
Views: 10903

Re: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.

The question is whether Airbus knows it’s a negotiating tactic and won’t budge on its pricing knowing so, or would they anyways? It could be a negotiating tactic due to the most favored customer clause that AA has with their A321neos http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1377333 Airbus was...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?
Replies: 103
Views: 18327

Re: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?

Nothing about Boeing's current position with the 737MAX (forward to MoM possibilities) vs. Airbus with the A32XNEO program has any advantage for Boeing. Yes you've heard that many times on here because it's true. And yes, the 321NEO LR is tempting enough (and selling at such a rate) that an airfram...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.
Replies: 75
Views: 10903

Re: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.

I wonder if the groundings and late deliveries of the A320neos is causing Spirit to want to diversify its fleet. This is not a good enough reason to add a completely different aircraft type to the fleet when it's a matter a switching your engine supplier. I agree switching engine suppliers is an op...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.
Replies: 75
Views: 10903

Re: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.

The question is whether Airbus knows it’s a negotiating tactic and won’t budge on its pricing knowing so, or would they anyways? It could be a negotiating tactic due to the most favored customer clause that AA has with their A321neos http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1377333 Airbus was...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

The idea was considered years ago on a.net at least :wink2: Keeping the A330-200/800 fuselage etc and renew the wingbox, wing, engines and landing gear, radically cutting empty weight and capability for an aircraft optimized as A310 replacement. Empty weight of the A310 was 80t, A330-200 ~ 120t. A ...

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by Newbiepilot
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.
Replies: 75
Views: 10903

Re: Spirit Airlines eyes Boeing aircraft for its next RFP.

I wonder if the groundings and late deliveries of the A320neos is causing Spirit to want to diversify its fleet. Spirit has been cancelling A320neos and replaced them with CEOs. https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/64230-spirit-to-resume-a320neo-deliveries-in-mid-2019 Why would they revert to a 6...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is NZ flying from LHR-LAX? Is it a connection?
Replies: 57
Views: 8637

Re: Why is NZ flying from LHR-LAX? Is it a connection?

Basically to serve London, although I would have to imagine that New Zealanders bound for London would usually get routed onto CX at HKG to get to LHR to avoid the visa fee (even though New Zealand is a visa waiver country). For a long time, the route was AKL-LAX-LHR-HKG-AKL as a round-the-world fl...

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by Newbiepilot
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the A338
Replies: 123
Views: 16096

Re: Future of the A338

Samrnpage wrote:
Airbus should try and push some to Iran air, Mahan air and some of the other Iranian airlines. For a good price they should buy some.


Why? Iran Air is the second most A330-900s on order of any airline. They chose the A339 not A338.

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I don't think this plane is going to be for segments as short as ATL-LGA or ORD-DFW (although you could see it there occasionally). I think the narrowbodies are going to be awfully had to beat there. I think this plane is going to have to make it's hay in the 2,500-5,000 mn segment. Perhaps not so ...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I think Qantas, Delta, United, Singapore, Thomas Cook, etc are telling us more about a potential 797 than Airbus’ A321plus strategy. You forgot Ryanair. Or do you filter the messages as they suit? I think Ryanair said they are not interested in the proposed 797. Ryanair also hasn’t talked about an ...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Here is a much better synopsis of what is going at Airbus with respect to the 32X production and the Plus and Plus Plus programs. http://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/airbus-shelves-a320neo-upgrade-now The most interesting stuff to me was the direct quotes. “We cannot fix everything at the s...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I think Airbus shelving the A320/A321 NEO PLUS program tells us that Boeing's 797 will in fact be a 787-6 and a 787-7...... We are looking at 757-300 - 767-300ER replacement market here..... which many feel the 787-8 and 787-9 were too big and too capable for..... and where the A359 is too big... a...

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by Newbiepilot
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air buys 50 737max
Replies: 19
Views: 3323

Re: Lion Air buys 50 737max

I find it interesting that Lion Air has ordered both the A321neo and 737-10. The planes should have similar capacity so it will be interesting to see how the operating costs compare once Lion operates both

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?
Replies: 103
Views: 18327

Re: Is Boeing outfoxing Airbus?

Nothing about Boeing's current position with the 737MAX (forward to MoM possibilities) vs. Airbus with the A32XNEO program has any advantage for Boeing. Yes you've heard that many times on here because it's true. And yes, the 321NEO LR is tempting enough (and selling at such a rate) that an airfram...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 222
Views: 24899

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

If we have a look regarding the facts mentioned in this article: - A320 family ramp up and shift to neo production. The only real problem is shortage of engines. Building of frames is going well, but they stack up while engine deliveries are slow. - How do you know that? The article talks about an ...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the A338
Replies: 123
Views: 16096

Re: Future of the A338

From the AA thread ( forgot that we also had an A338 specific thread...) Scott's take (requires subscription) now up at Leeham: American A330neo loss casts shadow over sales prospects says: Airbus hoped that an American order, for 20 -800s, would prove to be the endorsement of the program that was ...

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by Newbiepilot
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69121

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

I am really curious, I would like to compare the savings of simplifying the fleet types versus the paid penalties for canceling the A350 order. Sure, AA would've only gone for this step because they would be gaining financially, but is the difference between the two that much? I don’t think you wil...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69121

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

On another thread we have one member campaigning for an ultra-weight-reduced 787-8 to target the MoM space. Now we have a campaign for a heavier 787-8 to target the traditional carrier role. End result: I have a headache. I have noticed this too. There is a group of people on A.net that think the 7...

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by Newbiepilot
Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: G4 maddog off runway in Sioux falls
Replies: 7
Views: 2786

Re: G4 maddog off runway in Sioux falls

I hope they investigate why the crew was told there wad good braking action only for the crew to report it was nil. Given how MD80s are limited in reverse thrust during poor braking due to the rudder blanking, it is good that they juat ended up 20 feet off the runway.

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by Newbiepilot
Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the A338
Replies: 123
Views: 16096

Re: Future of the A338

I am trying to think of any plane that ever went through a flight test program with no orders. This is the first time that I can think of. The fact that Airbus hasn’t grounded their test airplane and kept moving forward even though they probably knew a while ago that the Hawaiian order was at risk t...

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