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by Eyad89
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 587
Views: 65468

Re: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021

jagraham wrote:

Going to Europe or most of Africa it's fuel burn per seat is actually less than the A350.



I really doubt that, unless you are including the A339 cheaper purchase costs in the per seat calculations.

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by Eyad89
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 2025ish A380-900NEO
Replies: 177
Views: 23560

Re: 2025ish A380-900NEO

I have always believed there's a way to get the A380 across that threshold due to its excellent fuselage, but that now seems likely to remain forever a hypothetical question. As you have said, A380 has an outstanding wetted area/pax, which translates to an amazing parasitic drag/ pax. The massive w...

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by Eyad89
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 to have RR Ultrafan Engines from ~2025, Ostrower
Replies: 125
Views: 18559

Re: Airbus A350 to have RR Ultrafan Engines from ~2025, Ostrower

Interesting news! It makes me wonder now if DL didn't delay its last batch of A350s with the expectation they'll be able to get the UltraFan on those birds. Agreed. Could it be this is how they are keeping the EY order? EY wouldn't refuse. They also get to wait 7+ years before they have to get the ...

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by Eyad89
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Most? 3 out of the 6 points is not most. You'll need to look much further than wikipedia to see the correct history of the 787-3. The 787-3 had inefficient derated engines, they were not scaled down. The 787-3 shared the 787-8 tail, it was not scaled down. The 787-3 wing was not scaled down, it had...

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by Eyad89
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 to have RR Ultrafan Engines from ~2025, Ostrower
Replies: 125
Views: 18559

Re: Airbus A350 to have RR Ultrafan Engines from ~2025, Ostrower

It's interesting how all the ultrafan speculations were for them to be on the A380neo, but then Airbus goes ahead and ends A380 production and gets those engines on the A350 instead. Airbus is going through a huge strategy transformation. The A350 is always going to be a heavier aircraft. Just look ...

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by Eyad89
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 2025ish A380-900NEO
Replies: 177
Views: 23560

Re: 2025ish A380-900NEO

Joe2mercs wrote:
I have a question, is it cheaper to operate two 787s on the same route as one A380, taking into account the initial purchase price, depreciation, maintenance, fuel, landing fees and crews?


QF’s CEO says yes.

Plus 2 787s allows for a more flexible fleet planning.

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by Eyad89
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

IMU your 783 OEW numbers are either misunderstood or from way back when the 788 would swim on milk too. I got the OEW as well as other specs from several articles that were published back then when 787-3 was still a thing. Sure, you can dismiss those figures as unreliable, 787-3 is like the A358 af...

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by Eyad89
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

You might say that Boeing did a better job with the B77X (completely new wing, new engines and a small strech) compared to what Airbus did with the A330neo. It’s very hard to say how their order books will look like in the future, but as things currently stand, A330neo is looking like it’s achievin...

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by Eyad89
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

No it's not. The 787-3 carried all most of the heavy bits from the 787-8. None of it was optimised for the short range mission. A clean sheet design would have had: A smaller landing gear. Fully scaled down engines instead of a derate. A smaller tail due to lower engine thrust. Proper scaled down h...

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by Eyad89
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

The A330-200 is a 7000nm frame the A300 is a 4000nm frame. The cabin areas are only 10% apart but they have a massive OEW 35% difference. A300 215m2 cabin area 88T A330-200 237m2 cabin are 120T We can scale weight A300 up to the same cabin area the weight only becomes 96T. This is still 24T lighter...

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by Eyad89
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I think the benchmark for a 797 NMA is in production. It has an empty weight of 50t Just sayin, 737-10 has an OEW of 50t and costs typical for an aircraft family build 700/ year. Makes total sense. 797 production rate per equals the production rate of 737+777+787 per year. Boeing might as well try.

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by Eyad89
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

That 4000nm optimised 787-8 nearly has the exact empty weight and MTOW of the 767-200 non-ER (Both 80T OEW and 1T differnce in MTOW. Yet the 4000nm optimised 787-8 has 45% more cabin area. That is truely a massive difference. For an aircraft to have that much more cabin area witg the same empty wei...

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by Eyad89
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

4000nm model Empty weight: 80T Fuel: 40T Maximum takeoff: 145T Wing: 218m2 area and 47m span Thrust: 40,000lb Fuel burn: 10T per 1000nm Those numbers look exactly like the non-ER 767-300. It's almost if I am looking at 767-300 specification section in Wiki, and that model sold only 104 frames over ...

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by Eyad89
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Well I'm just doing comparison with B767-300ER's capability. Knowing that it's the most successful variant of B767. 767-300ER was the only successful 767 variant because it was able to do something that 757 wasn't able to, which is flying up to 6,000 nm. Other variants were dominated by 757. 767-20...

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by Eyad89
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ten A380 Orders Removed From Backlog
Replies: 166
Views: 31438

Re: Ten A380 Orders Removed From Backlog

But in the end the material is not as important as the overall design, and the A380 wing is not primarily limited by the material used but by design constraints that came from the need to lift the theoretical -900 stretch and to stay inside the 80m box. With that the needed wing area forced them to...

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by Eyad89
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

I think Lightsaber is spot on. EK knew exactly what they were buying at time of the MOU and then their situation deteriorated. I find it hard to believe they signed an MOU contingent upon a dramatic improvement in hot and high performance. Thing is, there must be a lot of details/negotiations regar...

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by Eyad89
Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: EK considering 787 cancellation in favor of 777-9

All of these comments about 787-10 "suddenly" not being right for EK and Etihad, is the plane not meeting specs as promised or did these two airlines not understand their own requirements? It’s not sudden at all. Tim Clark had talked about the underpowered engines long before he signed th...

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by Eyad89
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: EU and Qatar sign open skies
Replies: 81
Views: 12976

Re: EU to grant QR unrestricted access to EU airports

airtran737 wrote:
Terrible news for the carriers who will be hurt by QR’s tactics. I don’t know why the EU allowed themselves to be taken hostage by QR.


To help grow the economy of smaller cities that are not served heavily by major EU carriers.

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by Eyad89
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

The 747-8 has a better wing aspect ratio and a better fuselage fineness ratio than the A380. The A380NEO might need more than just new engines. It doesn't make sense to compare the aspect ratio of two different planes unless those planes have the same lift coefficient (or same wing loading in cruis...

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by Eyad89
Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

A339NEO Span: 64 m Mean chord: 7.270 m Area: 465 m2 AR: 8.8 Thrust: 2 x 324.0 kN / 72,834 lbf B78J Span: 60.12 m Mean chord: 6.27 m Area: 377 m2 AR: 9.59 Thrust: 2 x 340 kN / 76,000 lbf Airbus and Boeing have different ways of calculating wing area. Boeing’s method gives a smaller area than Airbus’...

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by Eyad89
Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

Well if 81,000 pounds of TOGA thrust is not enough to get a 254,000kg 787-10 into the air out of DXB than why are they looking at the A330-900? That airframe only has 73,000 pounds of TOGA thrust for 251,000kg. The A339 has the bigger wing with a longer span and a lower span loading and wing loadin...

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by Eyad89
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First AA A321-253NX delivered
Replies: 70
Views: 12391

Re: First AA A321-253NX delivered

196 seats in a 3-class AA A321? I underestimated this whole flex thing.

And we are talking about AA here, their seats are definitely not the worst. Their 3-class 788 offers 226 seats.

With this flex cabin layout, I can see how the proposed A322 can close the seating gap with the 788/A338.

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by Eyad89
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

I would rollout a flyable plane at the official launch with multiple airlines CEO's standing beside me with a huge 1000+ order book. You are assuming that airlines would happily keep their mouths shut? If Boeing launches the NMA formally or informally, then the first thing that airlines would do is...

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 820
Views: 117570

Re: Emirates is exploring switching the Airbus A380 to A350

Could it be that EK is taking EY’ A350s?

Just a theory, if the owner of EY, the government of Abu Dhabi, asked the owner of EK, the government of Dubai, to bail them out of the order, it would not be the first time the two governments work together, of course.

Just a thought.

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by Eyad89
Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 235
Views: 73684

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

EY’s 1st, MSN 290, what does the future hold for this frame?

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by Eyad89
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019
Replies: 576
Views: 76951

Re: Boeing 797 Thread - 2019

Leahy was a great salesman but if he had a role in Airbus plane development plans he didn’t do a great job IMHO. At least he's speaking from experience, a 797 sounds like a modern A310/A300, and Airbus knows how that went along. If you argue that the demand for that size has changed ever since, I w...

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by Eyad89
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad to cancel a "significant amount" of A350 Order according to Aviation Analyst
Replies: 187
Views: 49887

Re: Etihad to cancel a "significant amount" of A350 Order according to Aviation Analyst

If 5 A35Ks are not going to be taken even though they have already been built, then I guess that the 77X order won't be cancelled, it might be deferred at most. EY needs a plane that could replace 77W, as theirs are getting into the retirement age territory based on ME3 standards. 789 doesn't have t...

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by Eyad89
Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 235
Views: 73684

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
MSN 290 (EY#1) has rolled out of FAL (unfortunately white tail)



And so the rumours are true.

Now will they cancel the entirety of the order? Or will they keep some?

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by Eyad89
Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

The odd A350-900 placement on the chart is I guess a labeling error. Transpose the positions of the A330-300 on the chart and the A350-900 and everything make sense. On the upper end, the A350-900 would be closer to the 787-8, but again A trades MTOW for efficiency, plus a bigger craft, so makes se...

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by Eyad89
Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

When folks play up cargo to downgrade the 78J it ignores the fact hauling pax generates far more income than freight. These are passenger aircraft. Some side cargo kicks in a bit more revenue but that is all. absolutely, no way would I assume that cargo revenue (or profit) would even compare to pax...

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by Eyad89
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

Irrelevant for the context of this discussion, as SQ (and some other airlines) run their own dedicated cargo operations with dedicated cargo birds and other equipment, which of course increases revenue but also comes with its own set of costs. Given the original question was trying to address the i...

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by Eyad89
Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

Many large airlines are publicly listed, it's not difficult to find this info at all, for FY2018: AA: $44,541 million total revenues, $1013 million of which is Cargo DL: $44,438 million total revenues, $865 million of which is Cargo UA: $41,303 million total revenues, $1,297 million of which is Car...

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question re Delta's A350s
Replies: 8
Views: 3151

Re: Question re Delta's A350s

During static load testing, Airbus found a margin in the wing’s strength that could be utilized for increasing the size of the winglets.

That would result in 1% fuel reduction, A350s delivered after June 2018 should have the newer winglet, Delta included.

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

But who said maximum structural payload? I sure didn't. The A350-900, A350-1000, 777-300ER and 787-9 all can't fly Los Angeles to Sydney at maximum structural payload if you use your definition. So clearly you knew exactly what I meant but just wanted to troll for multiple posts and just waste my t...

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First ANA 787-10 routes announced
Replies: 18
Views: 6834

Re: First ANA 787-10 routes announced

ANA's 77W's are extremely low density so self comparing is unfair. Different config's from 212 to 264 total seats, I don't think any other carrier have such a low density on their 77W fleet. 294-seater 78J seems OK for regional service. Why is that ? I notice that JAL and ANA planes are low dense c...

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL announces first A350 route
Replies: 50
Views: 12252

Re: JAL announces first A350 route

I remember when Airbus proposed the 74k engine for the regional A350, is that what JAL’s getting?

Now we have 2 airlines with the regional A350 (SQ and JAL), do we have others?

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

So hopefully you understand the 787-10 CAN fly Los Angeles to Sydney in UNITED config WITH A FULL PAYLOAD e.g every seat filled and all of the passengers bags. Filling every seat for a specific config does not mean you are flying with a full payload. Flying with a full payload is when you load the ...

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by Eyad89
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

The CASM for a 275t 359 with the same amount of seats as a 789 looks horrible...it's getting wrecked. And the CASM for a 779 with the same amount of seats as A35K looks horrible ... it's getting wrecked. And the CASM for a 789 with the same amount of seats as 788 looks horrible … it's getting wreck...

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by Eyad89
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

the 78X has more range @ 300pax than the 268t 359. By looking at their ACAPs, no way could 78X pull that off. Or you could simply follow common sense. They both have similar OEWs and MZFW, yet A359 still has 14T before it hits MTOW. You can figure out who will have more range. The 350 can do it but...

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by Eyad89
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A330neo Rolls Out Of Paintshop
Replies: 49
Views: 13590

Re: First Delta A330neo Rolls Out Of Paintshop

How long before we get 'DL unhappy with the A339 range' kinda thread?

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by Eyad89
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B777-9 future prospects?
Replies: 350
Views: 51274

Re: B777-9 future prospects?

Interesting. I think the 777-8 will weigh more than 355,000lb, probably just over 360,000lb. The OEW goes a very long way in determining the fuel load and then the maximum range at any given payload. I'll have a shot with the numbers. The 777-9 on wikipedia has a high OEW listed of 181T or 13T high...

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by Eyad89
Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 77W’s ?
Replies: 87
Views: 8447

Re: Will UA order more 77W’s ?

I don't believe UA will ever take the A350. The 787-10 can comfortably do SFO-TYO or ICN. A mix of 777 and 77X along with the 789 can do the rest. I just don't see any love for the A350 at UA. I don’t know what loves means in business, but the statement of the second in command at UA might qualify ...

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by Eyad89
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

Trip fuel is SFC x thrust. 78J with RRs has Trent 1000-TEN. 2% less than Trent XWB on SFC. But the Trent 1000-TEN is smaller - 76klbs vs 84klbs for Trent XWB. 10% less thrust. So 8% less trip fuel consumption everything else being equal. Of course, if the 78J is to grow, so must the engines. So by ...

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by Eyad89
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

Even if you calculate 142t OEW for early build A350-900 the fuel burn penalty would be around 9%!!! Sorry but its worse penalty than A340-600 against 77W! Early WV000 had an OEW of 138.5 tons. MTOW = 268t Maxumim structural payload = 53.5t So OEW = 268 - 53.5 = 138.5t Where did the 142t come from? ...

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by Eyad89
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

Even if you calculate 142t OEW for early build A350-900 the fuel burn penalty would be around 9%!!! Sorry but its worse penalty than A340-600 against 77W! Early WV000 had an OEW of 138.5 tons. MTOW = 268t MZFW = 192t Maxumim structural payload = 53.5t So OEW = 192 - 53.5 = 138.5t Where did the 142t...

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by Eyad89
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

They AREN'T MEANINGLESS at all! The reason for this sales advantage during that time period is obvious- the 787 had SERIOUS problems with exploding batteries and other production issues! So manufacturers RATIONALLY saw a problem or potential one with a particular jet and they cancelled the heck out...

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by Eyad89
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

keesje wrote:



A 787 MTOW bump of 20-30t would do the job, but probably require significant modifications and use a newer engine.


It wouldn’t just need a new engine, it would need a new engine with a higher thrust as well.

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by Eyad89
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

The SA article shows the 78J with a 8%-7% seatmile fuel burn advantage across its entire range envelope, from 2000nm (8) to 6000nm (7). . Care to link the article? The advantage to the 78J won't decrease with cargo- weight is weight and the competing jet will be carrying the same additional load. ....

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by Eyad89
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?
Replies: 439
Views: 64188

Re: a MTOW increase on 787-10 to compete with A359?

There would seem to be little utility for having more range on an A350. For a handful of routes sure. But it’s already on the very high end of the market range/payload wise anyway. Or it could help by allowing it to carry more payload for the longer missions, the less needed fuel means they wouldn'...

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