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Cloud Minimums - Visual Approach

Another - sort of - Q300 related question! I recently had a very bumpy descent into New Plymouth - home airport. I am rather wondering how bad the conditions have to be before an airline (not just Air New Zealand/Air Nelson) will throw in the proverbial towel and turn back - or divert to another air...

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RE: Engine Notes When Landing - Q300

That must be it - prop sync turned off, and both of them at max rpm. Then, wheels down, flaps down, and ... Q300 down soon afterward. I'm impressed with how fast the aeroplane can stop with a full load of 53 (including the crew). New Plymouth's runway is rather short - as usual in New Zealand's regi...

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RE: Engine Notes When Landing - Q300

Pardon my ignorance - but what is beta or disc mode?
Also - just out of interest - does the Q300 have any unique checks or procedures during descent?
The sound described by WN700driver is what I trying to get across, like an 80s power cord on a very low pitch.

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RE: Why Winglets On Regional Jets?

I've even seen - of all things - a Navajo with Winglets!
The photo is in the database somewhere - Air To There, photographed at Paraparaumu.

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Engine Notes When Landing - Q300

Just wondering if anyone can help with this tech question...

About three miles or so from landing, a bit before the landing gear is lowered, the sound of the engines change - to a very low throbbing note. Is that because the revs are so low, or has the propeller pitch changed instead... or both?

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RE: Berlin THF - PRG Via BRU With SN And SkyEurope Pt2

Lovely photos - particularly at Tempelhof Airport. It's sad that it is going to close, but I hear the Terminal building will be preserved, which is a relief.
What did they give you to eat on board?

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Kemayoran Airport. Jakarta

Just wondering if anyone has any memories of the old Jakarta Ajrport at Kemayoran. Even Wikipedia doesn't have an article on Kemayoran, but I noticed on the Google Satellite map that the old runways have been turned into wide boulevards. I wonder how long the runways were. Several airports have been...

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread #17

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RE: Palmietfontein Airport, Johannesburg

Thanks for the info - just realised that the total length of the runways was <b>1.9</b> miles - 3040m - as the total given above was the circuit length! Given that the main runway would be around 2/3 - 3/4 of that total (i.e. between 2200 and 2300m) - that doesn't sound like much for a fully loaded ...

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Palmietfontein Airport, Johannesburg

G'day Just wondering if anyone has some info on Johannesburg's long gone Palmietfontein International Airport. It was south of the city centre, in the township of Tokoza. Some info has been found... <a href="http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=346656&sid=302f728ca89fb3bf68d1bfdb102c4ac8" t...

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RE: Split-Flap Arrivals/Departures Boards

Auckland still has a couple of them. I much prefer them to the new TV screens.

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OAG 1960

Just wondering if anyone has any idea how to get hold of the OAG from 1960; or alternatively one up to 1965... and even how much it might cost to get hold of one! Even Ebay and Amazon.com have not turned up anything, and neither has the National Library, although it DOES have the Australasian Air Gu...

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RE: Interstate 70 And Denver Stapleton Airport

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RE: DC7 Routes Thread

Pan American flew a DC-7C twice weekly from Nadi to Auckland Whenuapai from 1960 - 65. It also flew from Nadi to Pago Pago once a week. Both services connected with the Trans-Pacific Boeing 707s and DC-8s at Nadi. (The DC-7C was retired in November 1965 when Auckland Mangere opened, and also opened ...

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RE: Pax Tries To Open Door On AA Flight

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RE: Domestic Connections: La Tontouta International

I thought that might be the case, as OAG kept referring me back to Magenta (GEA). It must be a pain for the locals - busy domestic airport in town, and five or so departures a day from La Tontouta 50km north... Merci beaucoup et bonnes vacances! <img src="/discussions/graphics/smilies/smile.gi...

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RE: Emergency Over NPL! Diversion Delays And MX

The stuff that goes on over my head!!! It was rather more than a crack eh!!!
See you when you're next in New Plymouth Jafa...

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RE: Naming Individual Airliners?

Yes <acronym title="Canadian Airlines">CP</acronym> did, and they often renamed them... the Empress of Winnipeg became the Empress of Buenos Aires and the Empress of Santiago (or was it the other way round?) anyway, they changed them quite often sometimes. My favourite was the DC-6 "Empress Of Auckl...

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Domestic Connections: La Tontouta International

I'm thinking vaguely about a trip up to New Caledonia, and am wondering if Air Caledonie have any domestic flights to La Tontouta (Aéroport de Nouméa La Tontouta), or whether it is solely an international airport. If they don't - do you just have to return from an outer island a day early, or are la...

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread #14

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RE: Naming Individual Airliners?

Air New Zealand used to name all their aircraft - the 747s were named after Maori Canoes, such as Mataatua and Takitimu, the 767s were generally Ara - Path; e.g. Aranui - Great Path, Arawhata - Path to Heaven, or another Maori name beginning with A like Aotearoa (Long White Cloud i.e. New Zealand), ...

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread #14

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RE: Brussels Airlines BRU-THF-BRU

Is there any hope of the German government keeping Tempelhof open? I heard that it was going to close fairly shortly, which would be a great shame...

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RE: Qantas Chairman Brands Heathrow "Appalling"

Not too sure what the fuss is about - but maybe <acronym title="Eastern Airways (United Kingdom)">T3</acronym> is different! I arrived on United from Chicago, everything was well signposted, the apron was a rainbow with airlines from what seemed like almost every country in the world, the immigratio...

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread #14

Interesting idea about <acronym title="Air New Zealand">NZ</acronym> flying to more ports in Australia. As of March 2008 with the demise of Freedomair, they will fly to Cairns, Brisbane, Coolangatta, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, and Perth. And Norfolk Island of course. I wonder if they might add a f...

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RE: 757 - Why Was It Never Considered For Ops In Oz?

Except for brief leases (Freedom Air and Kiwi International) - commercial carriers across the ditch in New Zealand doesn't use the 757 either. However, two of them operate as transport aircraft from Royal New Zealand Airforce Base Whenuapai, near Auckland. Due to the low strength and short length of...

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RE: 737 With 5 Abreast In Y Class

NAC (National Airways Corporation) also flew their 737-200s with seating 5 abreast at first.
I have the company photo to prove it, same is undated but due to the bright orange interior I'd say the 1970s.
Unfortunately I don't have a scanner!

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RE: QantasLink Orders 12 More Q400s

It could be splitting hairs a little, but turboprops ARE jet aircraft...

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RE: Sloped Runways

New Plymouth, New Zealand (NPL/NZNP) RWY 05/23 1310m x 45m, bitumen, PCN 45 F/C/Y/T Elev (RWY 05) 90ft Elev (RWY 23) 83ft The runway slope is 0.35, and slopes up from the thresholds to the centre; due to the terrain. From the NZAIP... CAUTION: Due to obstructions and runway surface gradients, diffic...

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RE: Historical Choices Of Seat Colors

In the 1980s Air New Zealand's F27s still had their 70s style bright orange seat covers with big yellow flowers... In the latter half of the 80s they updated to a grey-ish blue look, shortly before the introduction of the SAABs. As others have said, it depends on the fashion of the day. I'm glad the...

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RE: Service Compliments: Do They Work?

When I wrote to Air New Zealand about the particularly good service I received from a F.A. on a flight to Nadi, I was told in the letter back that a copy had been placed on her file. I had mentioned the name, flight, and destination, so as Linate says, if you do that, it will likely get back to the ...

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RE: Bombardier May Stretch Q400 For 90-95 Seats

It would be interesting to see a stretched Q400 - but as other people have said, I think it would either have to have ATR72 style landing gear, or be raised further off the ground - which may need to happen anyway. The travelling public might be a bit unrealistic about turboprops and their apparent ...

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RE: QantasLink Orders 12 More Q400s

You may well be right, Air Nelson (Air New Zealand Link) apparently got a good discount for the 23 Q300s they ordered.

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RE: American Carriers--Service Comment

One thing I did find surprising when flying in the USA was not getting food on a 2 hour flight.
One small bag of peanuts - and even worse, First Class didn't get any more food than we did!
That was on United Airlines in 2005.

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RE: Is This Int'l Or Domestic Flight?

New Zealand to Niue and the Cook Islands are treated as International Flights. I can't comment on other nationalities but New Zealanders get 31 days entry to each of those territories on arrival. The Cooks also insist on you having pre-booked accommodation before arriving there. If you are a Cook Is...

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread #11

Interesting thread! A few questions about the new domestic ideas.... how profitable and successful do people think they will be? Albeit demographics have changed signficantly, Paraparaumu remains 35 miles north of Wellington - and National Airways Corporation lost a great deal of revenue (estimates ...

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RE: Manawatu Fly/Drive. NPL, WLG, AKL Delays, Delays..

It was a pleasure to meet you Jafa <img src="/discussions/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile"> Glad you had a good flight down here. I often seem to land from the east; start descent at the White Cliffs (Pukearuhe), past the farms and the rivers with the mountain on the left... Cross winds...

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DC-7C, Britannia, And LCNs

I noted with interest when researching a project on RNZAF Station Whenuapai/Auckland Airport; that though the Britannia carried more people than the DC-7C (up to 139, compared to 86 - 103); it had an LCN of 40 - exactly the same as the airport's runways; and the DC-7C had a LCN of 55. This made CAA ...

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Unique Runway Markings, Wellington Airport

DC-8 jets were introduced to Wellington Airport in 1972, with a 180m runway extension - to 1936m (approx. 6352ft) in total. This was still rather short for a DC-8, and special runway markings were introduced unique to Wellington. Google Maps/Earth (I get them via gc.kls2.com) will show the actual ma...

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RE: How Long And How Much Does It Take To Paint A Plan

And how many people does it generally take to get all that done in a week?

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RE: Another Drunk On United

I tend to think this lady was on a bit more than alcohol too - magic mushrooms maybe, and possibly a mental illness.
Not that it really excuses her, but is she entitled to a psychiatric evaluation under US law, before the charges formally proceed to court?

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RE: Air New Zealand Forecast To Triple Profit

On the whole I agree with ZKPilot. I'd prefer Air New Zealand to remain Government owned. If the airline became foreign owned, it would be run to foreign interests; and would then have the country's complete - or almost complete - international services handed to people who may not have the country'...

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OAG Worldwide 1965

If anyone has this particular book/resource, would you be interested in trading the few pages dealing with domestic flights in New Zealand during 1965; for some scanned timetables like TEAL 1964 or 1961 or 1959... or photographs of <acronym title="Aegean Aviation (Greece)">A3</acronym>-AWP DC-3 whic...

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RE: Air New Zealand Air Fares In 1969

Going the other way - if things in 1969 were as low as they are today in economy; we'd have as follows... <acronym title="Auckland - International (AKL / NZAA), New Zealand">AKL</acronym> - <acronym title="Sydney - Kingsford Smith International (Mascot) (SYD / YSSY), Australia - New South Wales">SYD...

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RE: Air NZ Equipment Changes LAX-AKL

Heavy holiday loads booked I imagine. That's the usual reason NZ send a 747 from Auckland to Sydney.

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RE: Pan American Auckland Aug 1962

A cartoon in the New Zealand Herald from September 1965 suggests the terminal was about 4000sq feet or 371 square metres - it was a rectangular building so suggest a space of about 15m x 25m. This had to contain the check in desks for the two domestic airlines, TEAL, and the four foreign airlines (5...

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RE: Pan American Auckland Aug 1962

The promised "International Flight Display"!!! <b>WHENUAPAI AIRPORT, AUCKLAND: AUGUST 1962</b> Departures in italics, arrivals plan text. MONDAY <i>09:00 QF351 Sydney (Electra)</i> 18:35 QF830 Sydney (Electra) TUESDAY <i>09:00 QF351 Sydney (Electra)</i> 10:55 CP301 Nadi, Honolulu (Brittania) <i>11:4...

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RE: Pan American Auckland Aug 1962

Thank you everyone. Gemuser - you are quite right, I had forgotten about the flying boats; and was concentrating on the landplane service. Technically Auckland had TWO international airports 1945-54; with Pan American and Canadian Pacific DC-4s arriving at Whenuapai, and TEAL Flying boats arriving a...

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RE: Pan American Auckland Aug 1962

Not yet, that was the end of 1965 when Whenuapai closed to civil traffic and Mangere opened. There was indeed same plane service with BOAC via Sydney to Darwin, Singapore, Bangkok, Rangoon, Calcutta, Karachi, Damascus, Rome, and London; which would have been fun even though it would have cost <acron...

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Pan American Auckland Aug 1962

Just wondering if any of the airline timetable collectors out there happen to have the arrival time/departure time/flight number/aircraft information for Auckland, New Zealand in August 1962 - and the days the service operated. Destination was Nadi only as far as I know.
Thanks!

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