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by chiad
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2250
Views: 281234

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

So would you prefer I use 2010's numbers to give Airbus a 100% market share (though they did it with only 30 frames)? Or would you prefer 2012's numbers since that was the first year both frames were available for sale for a complete calendar year, which would shrink the gap from 88/12 to 62/38 in ...

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by chiad
Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2250
Views: 281234

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

It seems to me the 797 could me much more an attack on the 767/A330 replacement market, 250 seats up to 10 hours. That could be a plausible market. A question is the segment below that, won't the situation get out of hand there for Boeing (marketshare<35%). It's too bad pdxlite stopped updating his...

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by chiad
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45383

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

https://twitter.com/scramble_nl/status/ ... 1716273154

Cheers! :wave:


Clearly not an order yet.
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LifelinerOne wrote:
SaudiGulf has ordered 16 widebodies at Boeing:

https://twitter.com/scramble_nl/status/ ... 1716273154

Cheers! :wave:


Clearly not an order yet.

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by chiad
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean signs MoU for 20+10 Airbus 320neo and 321neo
Replies: 27
Views: 4070

Re: Aegean signs MoU for 20+10 Airbus 320neo and 321neo

For now , it seems there is no competition on narrowbodies. NEO can still outsell MAX even with this backlog. But there is still competition left for widebodies. When orders have been this low it doesn't matter: Airbus: 35 firm vs Boeing: 18 firm One major order will immediately reset the balance.

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by chiad
Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45383

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Does anyone know why Boeing hasn't reported orders (and deliveries) for February yet?

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by chiad
Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45383

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Interesting that Turkish Airlines already have a delivery schedule for 60 planes even if only 50 is firm at the moment if above is correct. I think this whole order is still "only" a commitment. Quote Flight Global: Airbus, in confirming Turkish Airlines' A350 selection in a release of it...

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by chiad
Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines to purchase up to 40 787-9 aircraft
Replies: 159
Views: 26043

Re: Turkish Airlines to purchase up to 40 787-9 aircraft

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/
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Turkish Airlines has struck deals covering orders for 25 Airbus A350-900s and another 25 Boeing 787-9s

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/

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by chiad
Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines MoU for 25 A350 and 25 787
Replies: 48
Views: 9229

Turkish Airlines MoU for 25 A350 and 25 787

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/
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Flight Global reports Turkish Airlines commits to 25 A350-900s (+5 options) and 25 787-9s (+5 options).

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/

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by chiad
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IndiGo mulls up to 50 A330neo aircraft
Replies: 113
Views: 20556

Re: IndiGo mulls up to 50 A330neo aircraft

This shows the top 15 countries by total airliner passengers for 2017. https://i.imgur.com/HxQE9Ir.gif The passengers per capita column gives you a rough idea of how developed airline passenger service is in those countries. As you can see India is woefully behind the rest of the BRICS, so as the w...

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by chiad
Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo Airways to order 24 A321neo
Replies: 5
Views: 2070

Re: Bamboo Airways orders 24 A321neo

Thanks for the update CarbonFibre.

Though still just a MoU, an order for 24 A321NEO's will be a stretch considering;
Quote "Bamboo Airways is still awaiting a business licence from the Vietnamese Ministry of Transport."

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by chiad
Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Batik Air to convert entire A321neo order to A321LR
Replies: 46
Views: 7888

Re: Batik Air to convert entire A321neo order to A321LR

The A321LR is a perfectly timed aircraft. I expect Airbus to continue to capitalize on it for years. Boeing is too little too late with the 737-10. Maybe the MoM will be successful on the upper end. The 321LR can basically cover all existing narrowbody flights being flown today range wise and at a ...

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by chiad
Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A319neo: will it enter into service or not?
Replies: 126
Views: 27133

Re: Will the A319neo enter service?

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-435775/

It will enter service for sure.
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The A319neo completed first flight almost one year ago.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-435775/

It will enter service for sure.

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by chiad
Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update: Hawaiian signs 787 LOI
Replies: 840
Views: 95609

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ow-446147/
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ADrum23 wrote:
So has HA officially cancelled their A330neo order and placed a 789 order, or is this still speculation?


Still speculation.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ow-446147/

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by chiad
Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IndiGo mulls up to 25 A321LR aircaft
Replies: 36
Views: 5404

Re: IndiGo mulls up to 25 A321LR aircaft

The CFM Leap can't deliver the same max. thrust as the PW1100G, so if you want to get the most out of your A321NLR, you really need the PW engines. That being said, with today's PW engines your NEO LR is going nowhere... IMO, the A321NEO LR is a great concept, but it's not a B752 yet. :bored: Geez ...

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by chiad
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45383

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

http://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/o ... eries.html

On a passing note I think that means NEO sales just passed 6000 frames.
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Airbus orders for January:

5 A320ceo (Spirit Airlines)
15 A320neo (CALC)

5 cancellations for A320neo

27 deliveries, incl 4 A350-900s and 2 A330-300's

http://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/o ... eries.html

On a passing note I think that means NEO sales just passed 6000 frames.

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by chiad
Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: United to consider Airbus A321 NEO.
Replies: 233
Views: 36674

Re: Reuters: United to consider Airbus A321 NEO.

Boeing's central challenge with MOM/NMA is to define a market position where the A321neo or a rewinged version thereof has trouble competing, the same way the MAX 9/10 have trouble competing with the A321neo today. The biggest MOM/NMA needs to be bigger than a reasonable A321 stretch; have better C...

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by chiad
Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Air Show 6-9 FEB 2018
Replies: 56
Views: 14458

Re: Singapore Air Show 6-9 FEB 2018

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nst-boeing
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Vistara may buy up to 60 NEO or MAX.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nst-boeing

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by chiad
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas let one of 15 787 options expire, confirms 18 A321LR aircraft
Replies: 65
Views: 16735

Re: Qantas Group lapse one of 15 787 options, mulls A321neo

StTim wrote:
More of the march of the unstoppable A321neo-LR?


The sense of activity around the A321NEO and -LR are interesting indeed.
Some predict that these models will capture half of the NEO backlog. I am sure we'll see many conversion, but hopefully a flurry of new orders too.

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by chiad
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian names possible transatlantic A321LR markets
Replies: 96
Views: 19697

Re: Norwegian names possible transatlantic A321LR markets

I thought that Norwegian had planned to only lease out the NEOs.

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by chiad
Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC
Replies: 359
Views: 40346

Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

Is it possible the CS500 can be launched with 2 different cockpits? One version with CS100 / CS300 commonality, and another version with the Airbus NEO commonality.

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by chiad
Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis
Replies: 241
Views: 61955

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis

https://www.reuters.com/article/aviatio ... SL8N1PH5OX
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A new addition in this category seems to be edging closer for both Boeing and Airbus:

Airbus plots response as Boeing warms to new jet
https://www.reuters.com/article/aviatio ... SL8N1PH5OX

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by chiad
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis
Replies: 241
Views: 61955

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis

Over the vast majority of missions the difference is minimal and adding one more comfort seat row or not, has a bigger effect on CASM than the choice of the aircraft. They are basically the same the A321NEO and 737-10. Only minor differences are the A321s 4000NM (e.g.Trans Atlantic) capability, ava...

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by chiad
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis
Replies: 241
Views: 61955

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis

Oh I am not disagreeing that the A321neo sold more. But using 85% of the current total order market share to make your point is a very misleading when one plane has been available 4-5 years longer than the other. Even an eventual 60:40 split annually is very different from 85:15. Fair enough. I did...

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by chiad
Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis
Replies: 241
Views: 61955

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 vs Airbus A321neo analysis

I get the impression most people think the A320NEO family is smashing the 737MAX family at the moment. I completely disagree. The Max is roughly a year behind the NEO. 15 month behind in first flight. Sales per year brings it to approx 45/55 split. The Max10 only just launched. Max family sales wou...

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by chiad
Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 198
Views: 45383

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... 6-billion#


And here
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... n-jckc224w
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KarelXWB wrote:
Emirates commits to 20 additional A380s, plus 16 options.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... 6-billion#


And here
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... n-jckc224w

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by chiad
Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
Replies: 695
Views: 86576

Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

36 A380 for Emirates :) Firm order + 16 options http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2018/01/18/97002-20180118FILWWW00116-emirates-annonce-avoir-commande-36-a380-pour-16-milliards-de-dollars.php Fantastic!! Thanks for the news! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/emirates-airline-orders-...

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by chiad
Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS planning order for Scandinavian and European network
Replies: 46
Views: 10086

Re: SAS planning order for Scandinavian and European network

Let’s hope this info is correct, if true they will finally rid themselves of those pesky, old 60’s dinosaurs: Posted earlier today in a Norwegian forum, and suposedly from an internal SAS memo: «We are happy to announce that we are now in final negotiations with Airbus for a large order of new shor...

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by chiad
Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Amazing NEO sale for December. Does anyone know total sales? Should be just shy of 6000 frames me think. Order book stands at 5873 aircraft. Total sales: 33 A319neo, 4042 A320neo and 1920 A321neo, together 5995 A320neo family frames sold. The Backlog stands at: 33 A319neo, 3813 A320neo and 1900 A32...

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by chiad
Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference
Replies: 57
Views: 7450

Re: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference

scbriml wrote:
Say it quietly, but total A320 family sales is now getting very close to total 737 family sales - 14,120 to 14,532. :eek:


So Randy was correct then. The NEO is playing catch up.
:biggrin:

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by chiad
Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Amazing NEO sale for December. Does anyone know total sales? Should be just shy of 6000 frames me think.

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by chiad
Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference
Replies: 57
Views: 7450

Re: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference

Total orders for December is as follows Middle East Airlines 1 x A321neo Qatar AIrways 50 X 321neo Viva Air 15 x 320ceo, 35 x A320neo Airspace Defence 5 X A330-200 Pegasus 25 x A321neo Delta Airlines 5 x A321ceo, 100 x A321neo Undisclosed 20 x A321neo Aercap 25 x A320neo,25 x A321neo ALC 2 x A320ne...

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by chiad
Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference
Replies: 57
Views: 7450

Re: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference

https://twitter.com/Airbus/status/952809419154259969


Thanks qf789
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qf789 wrote:


Thanks qf789

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by chiad
Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference
Replies: 57
Views: 7450

Re: Airbus 2017 "5th Quarter" annual press conference

718 deliveries.

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by chiad
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China new order for 184 Airbus A320 delivery 2019-2020
Replies: 32
Views: 6872

Re: Chinese Airbus next Mega-order : 184 A320 & 500 engines

Articles' salient points : 1. 184 A320 , "soon to be finalized says Macron"( on-top of the 140 A320 order announced by Xi Jinping in Germany mid-2017 ) for 2019-2020 delivery to 13 Chinese airlines 2. 500 Safran-GE engines to be announced soon [/quote] Does that mean we could see another 3...

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by chiad
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 242
Views: 74396

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018

flee wrote:
I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!

:bigthumbsup:

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by chiad
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VietJet converts 42 A320neo orders to A321neos
Replies: 44
Views: 5302

Re: VietJet converts 42 A320neo orders to A321neos

I assume that Airbus "prefers" these conversions as the A321neo cost some $15 to $20 millions (at listprice) more than the A320neo.

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by chiad
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Of interest: Airbus Year-End Order Rush Masks Woes Selling Biggest Jets Over 1000 orders, but only 48 are wide-bodies. (carefully stepping over the subsequent fanboy rhetoric).. :) I'll put my cards on the table here and say that, 1000 orders or not, 2017 will be seen as a bad year for Airbus IMO. ...

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by chiad
Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

... A32X NEO November total A319 - 51, A320 - 3691,A321 - 1512, Total - 5254 December orders so far Indigo partners A320 - 274, A321 - 156, Total - 430 Delta A321 - 100, Total - 100 VIVA A320 - 35, A321 - 15 , Total - 50 Pegasus A320 - 25, A321 - 25 , Total - 50 Aercap Unspecified 50, Total - 50 (f...

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by chiad
Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Egypt Air to order 12 C300 Series aircraft
Replies: 14
Views: 5329

Re: Article: Egypt Air to order 12 C300 Series aircraft

KarelXWB wrote:


Exellent news!
Thanks Karel.

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by chiad
Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Thanks Karel. That's 480 frames in one day, 655 so far for December and 943 in 2017. :bigthumbsup: ODs_Airbus_Commercial_Aircraft_November_2017 333 net orders + 655 so far in December and 988 in 2017? :white: Regards. I had other numbers. I'm happy to be corrected though! :highfive: Thanks Millenium

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by chiad
Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Sales for the A320NEO family should be at 5894 units if I've counted correctly.
A321NEO sales should be at 1778.

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by chiad
Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 158124

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Thanks Karel.
That's 480 frames in one day, 655 so far for December and 943 in 2017.
:bigthumbsup:

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by chiad
Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2250
Views: 281234

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

Only 332 orders in the year to end November is nowhere near par for course. (On the bright side it allows RJMAZ to claim that Airbus only have 30% market share in narrowbodys, so at least someone gets some happy ;) ) Having a hundred or so engineless frames standing about, and significant questions...

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by chiad
Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran deals might be in jeopardy
Replies: 69
Views: 11157

Re: Iran deals might be in jeopardy

Airbus booked the Iranian orders which are now likely to be cancelled. This loss would mean Boeing wins the 2016 "orders" race as the 100 aircraft Iran ordered gave Airbus the nod last year. Not sure how many Airbuses got delivered but we could be looking at Boeing winning back to back &q...

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by chiad
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options
Replies: 377
Views: 83944

Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

http://news.delta.com/delta-selects-air ... et-renewal


Great!
Thanks panamair
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panamair wrote:


Great!
Thanks panamair

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by chiad
Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 154
Views: 65292

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway .....

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by chiad
Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 154
Views: 65292

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway ......

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by chiad
Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 399
Views: 89731

Delta to order about 100 single-aisle planes

Bloomberg reports that Delta Airlines is nearing an order for about 100 single-aisle planes. Quote: "Delta is considering Boeing’s 737 Max 8 and bigger Max 10, along with the Airbus A320neo and larger A321neo aircraft" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-06/delta-is-said-to-eye...

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by chiad
Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Which Almost Bankrupted Manufacturers
Replies: 45
Views: 8263

Re: Airliners Which Almost Bankrupted Manufacturers

What about 787 and A380 had A & B not been a duoploy they would surely have gone under I believe that the 787 will be a real cash cow for Boeing in the coming years so I’m not sure that this counts. In addition the fact that Boeing had cash cows at the time such as the 777 and 737NG ensured tha...

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