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panamair wrote:


Great!
Thanks panamair

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by chiad
Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 154
Views: 56691

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway .....

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by chiad
Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2
Replies: 154
Views: 56691

Re: Dubai Air Show 2017 - Airbus Orders pt 2

Must I remind all that eventhough this is an awesome commitment, it's "just" that ... an MoU, not a firm order. I know most MoU's are being firmed up but it can, in some cases, take years. I doubt that we will see this in the backlog of 2017, but how great it would be if we did. Anyway ......

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by chiad
Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 399
Views: 81752

Delta to order about 100 single-aisle planes

Bloomberg reports that Delta Airlines is nearing an order for about 100 single-aisle planes. Quote: "Delta is considering Boeing’s 737 Max 8 and bigger Max 10, along with the Airbus A320neo and larger A321neo aircraft" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-06/delta-is-said-to-eye...

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by chiad
Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Which Almost Bankrupted Manufacturers
Replies: 45
Views: 7575

Re: Airliners Which Almost Bankrupted Manufacturers

What about 787 and A380 had A & B not been a duoploy they would surely have gone under I believe that the 787 will be a real cash cow for Boeing in the coming years so I’m not sure that this counts. In addition the fact that Boeing had cash cows at the time such as the 777 and 737NG ensured tha...

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by chiad
Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 440
Views: 115992

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

KarelXWB wrote:


Hmm ... a commitment for 20 frames, and 20 options, are significantly less than 40 firm orders.

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by chiad
Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MOL: "Norwegian 'gone' in 4-5 months"
Replies: 136
Views: 26423

Re: MOL: "Norwegian 'gone' in 4-5 months"

The minimum is not the safest route. Safety is a culture. That culture doesn't exist at Norwegian. They have no experience to draw upon. May I ask you what experience with you have with NAS that concludes these opinions (NAS doesn't have a safety culture because they have no experience to draw upon)?

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by chiad
Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:30 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Saudia Airlines under fire for Dress Code
Replies: 56
Views: 7779

Re: Saudia Airlines under fire for Dress Code

MalevTU134 wrote:
Hasn't this dress code been around for years? What's new here?


Agree!
And the solution is easy: If you don't like it, don't fly Saudia.

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by chiad
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA releases worst safety video ever?
Replies: 115
Views: 14913

Re: BA releases worst safety video ever?

https://youtu.be/YCoQwZ9BQ9Q


It must be me, but I love it. :D
First safety I've watched for years.
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KTPAFlyer wrote:
How did this get approved? What were they thinking!?! I was cringing at the dry humor and could barely finish the video!

https://youtu.be/YCoQwZ9BQ9Q


It must be me, but I love it. :D
First safety I've watched for years.

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by chiad
Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Woman dies at SXM after falling from jet blast
Replies: 157
Views: 29528

Re: Woman dies at SXM after falling from jet blast

Blast barrier soon to follow without doubt. All it takes is 1 to ruin it for everyone. I hope not. People die everywhere for everything. I am sure more people has died drowning at this beach than falling from jet blasts. I hear hiking is also really dangerous. Going to amusement parks is ludacris. ...

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by chiad
Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders
Replies: 411
Views: 91091

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders

On a separate note has the B737-10 made significant inroads on the A321 NEO's market share yet? I think it has done quite well - better than the Max 9. It would appear that the current Max 9 backlog has been significantly reduced because many airlines have converted from Max 9 to Max 10. I suspect ...

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by chiad
Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Airbus News And Orders
Replies: 264
Views: 73017

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Airbus News And Orders

ikolkyo wrote:
dubaiamman243 wrote:
Delta orders 10 more A321s


This was reported a long time ago.


He said 10 more.
Maybe it's another 10 more?
;)

Does anyone know when the first announcement for today is due?

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by chiad
Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders
Replies: 411
Views: 91091

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders

india1 wrote:
...and people say Boeing doesn't hold back orders to announce at air shows? Surely, all these couldn't have been closed and signed in a matter of just over 24 hours! :smile:


Many of these announcements are not orders, not firm anyway (yet).
And several are conversions also.

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by chiad
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders
Replies: 411
Views: 91091

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders

qf789 ... thank you very much for the summary. Do you know how many actual firm orders we have here? For the 737-10? According to the Seattle Times, the breakdown is as follows.. firm orders - 4 new commitments - 90 conversions - 64 total orders/commitments/conversions so far - 158 http://www.seatt...

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by chiad
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Airbus News And Orders
Replies: 264
Views: 73017

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Airbus News And Orders

12 A321neos for ALC https://airbus-h.assetsadobe2.com/is/image/content/dam/products-and-solutions/commercial-aircraft/a320-family/a321neo/A321neo_ALC1.jpg?wid=1196&fit=fit,1 http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2017/06/alc-inks-order-for-12-additional-a321neo-aircraft.html Makes 112...

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by chiad
Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders
Replies: 411
Views: 91091

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders

qf789 ... thank you very much for the summary.
Do you know how many actual firm orders we have here?

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How many MAX9s are in GECAS' portfolio?
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A330freak wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
GECAS Announce Order for 20 737 MAX 10s:

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2017-06-19- ... 37-MAX-10s

Order is a conversion of existing MAX orders
https://twitter.com/airwayslive/status/ ... 8530208769


How many MAX9s are in GECAS' portfolio?

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by chiad
Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Preview 2017 Paris Airshow, Announcements, Expectations, Almost Baseless Rumours
Replies: 143
Views: 28984

Re: Preview 2017 Paris Airshow, Announcements, Expectations, Almost Baseless Rumours

neutrino wrote:
But if you do not say what you mean, then you don't mean what you say.


..... processing ....
:headache:

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by chiad
Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Preview 2017 Paris Airshow, Announcements, Expectations, Almost Baseless Rumours
Replies: 143
Views: 28984

Re: Preview 2017 Paris Airshow, Announcements, Expectations, Almost Baseless Rumours

Air India to buy up to 75 frames of either A320NEO or B737MAX families. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-jet-airways-aircraft-idUSKBN18W1EV Umm. You say Air India but your link says Jet Airways. Yeah :blush: Sorry about that. I will repeat what my history teacher said (100 years ago): Don't listen...

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by chiad
Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Preview 2017 Paris Airshow, Announcements, Expectations, Almost Baseless Rumours
Replies: 143
Views: 28984

Re: Preview 2017 Paris Airshow, Announcements, Expectations, Almost Baseless Rumours

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-jet-a ... SKBN18W1EV
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Air India to buy up to 75 frames of either A320NEO or B737MAX families.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-jet-a ... SKBN18W1EV

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by chiad
Thu May 25, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7
Replies: 2393
Views: 366554

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

speedygonzales wrote:
StTim wrote:
How many neos have been delivered now?

103 A320 and 1 A321 at the end of April according to the Airbus O&D spreadsheet.


I'm counting another 9 deliveries this far for the month of May.

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by chiad
Sat May 06, 2017 9:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 440
Views: 115992

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

qf789 wrote:
Boeing summary up to end of April

BOEING

Gross 241
Cancellations 31
Net 210



IMHO Boeing is doing well order-wise considering the market slowdown.
I'm postponing my Airbus judgement til after the Paris Airshow next month, but 23 net orders is ... well ... very slow.

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by chiad
Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: List of Airports with NEO service
Replies: 42
Views: 5045

Re: List of Airports with NEO service

Isn't there about 100 NEO's in service?
If to keep track of all the airports they serve, an intense job it will be considering a new NEO is being set into service about every second day now.

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by chiad
Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways chief says will not take any Airbus A320neos in 2017
Replies: 41
Views: 9555

Re: Qatar Airways chief says will not take any Airbus A320neos in 2017

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europ ... SKBN16F1DZ

Quote:
The Gulf carrier wants to change its order for 50 A320neo family jets, which includes A319, A320 and A321 versions, to take only the larger A321neos, which would likely be powered by CFM engines.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europ ... SKBN16F1DZ

Quote:
The Gulf carrier wants to change its order for 50 A320neo family jets, which includes A319, A320 and A321 versions, to take only the larger A321neos, which would likely be powered by CFM engines.

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by chiad
Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Lease Corp: Can't get the 737MAX 10 "Soon Enough"
Replies: 19
Views: 4499

Re: Air Lease Corp: Can't get the 737MAX 10 "Soon Enough"

Quote: Air Lease Corp: Can't get the 737MAX 10 "Soon Enough"

Well .. they could start by ordering it, no?

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by chiad
Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 440
Views: 115992

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

A330freak wrote:
No new orders for Airbus for the month of February but they did book cancellations for 6 A321neos and 4 A330-800s from the now defunct carrier TransAsia.


Wah ... I can't remember that happening before.

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by chiad
Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1
Replies: 791
Views: 227160

Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=6

Includes line number for upcoming MAX aircraft.


Thank you sooo much!!
:bigthumbsup:
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817Dreamliiner wrote:
Production list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=6

Includes line number for upcoming MAX aircraft.


Thank you sooo much!!
:bigthumbsup:

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by chiad
Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG orders Long Range A321Neo's for Aer Lingus
Replies: 51
Views: 12856

Re: IAG orders Long Range A321Neo's for Aer Lingus

k900 wrote:
How many units? 4 current B757's. Will they go big and really take on Norwegian?


From the report.
Quote: IAG SA has sealed a deal to take seven long-range variants of Airbus Group SE’s A321neo single-aisle jetliner for Irish arm Aer Lingus

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by chiad
Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A New (Old) Concept for MOM
Replies: 28
Views: 4718

Re: A New (Old) Concept for MOM

Why doesn't Boeing simply do a 757 and 767 MAX? New engines, new cockpit common with 787, factory wingtip devices and other aerodynamic updates, and some targeted weight reduction. Simple. The business case is not there. Boeing doesn't make planes to compete with Airbus. Boeing manufacture planes t...

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by chiad
Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing posted a fourth-quarter profit of $1.63 billion
Replies: 31
Views: 2737

Re: Boeing posted a fourth-quarter profit of $1.63 billion

Newbiepilot wrote:
It looks like 787 deferred production costs were reduced by 215 million. Still more than 27B to go, but at least they are making progress.


So deferred production costs will be balanced sometime between 2044 and 2050 then.
:bouncy:

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by chiad
Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spicejet Orders up to 205 Boeing aircraft worth $22 billion
Replies: 37
Views: 6481

Re: Spicejet Orders up to 205 Boeing aircraft worth $22 billion

rotating14 wrote:
What if we just accepted the order as that and moved on?


Because this 205 number is essentially no new order.
55 frames was booked in 2014.
100 was booked in 2016 as unidentified.
And the rest are purchase rights.
:roll:

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by chiad
Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spicejet Orders up to 205 Boeing aircraft worth $22 billion
Replies: 37
Views: 6481

Re: Spicejet Orders up to 205 Boeing aircraft worth $22 billion

And this order is already included in 2016 I believe.

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by chiad
Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders

IF Boeing wanted to claim the Title of #1 in sales for 2016, they could have by counting the Iran deal. 668+80 puts them at 748 which gives them the "Top Spot". The Annual sale competition counts firm orders, not commitments. As an example the GoAir order was announced in July as a commit...

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by chiad
Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leahy: A322 Not Needed, "We Own This (MOM) Market"
Replies: 98
Views: 15753

Re: Leahy: A322 Not Needed, "We Own This (MOM) Market"

13. Silly questions, silly answers *Facepalm* ----- To the other users, perhaps I should have set a definition for an MOM, and I'm sure most would agree, though this is just my personal idea. An MOM is an airliner that seats 210-280, 2-class, with range up to 5000nm. Leahy may see the A321 as an MO...

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by chiad
Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leahy: A322 Not Needed, "We Own This (MOM) Market"
Replies: 98
Views: 15753

Re: Leahy: A322 Not Needed, "We Own This (MOM) Market"

Mr. Leahy doesn't really seem to know what an MOM is What....?!? And you do? Whatever the definition of MOM is we should ask the airline CEO's. Boeing778X .... with how many CEO's did you discuss the MOM during the last 12 months? And now to Mr Leahy .... with how many airline CEO's did you and you...

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by chiad
Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders

One more thing to notice:
Net sales of the A320NEO program crossed 5000 units.
What an achievement.

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by chiad
Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders

Net orders for 2016 is 731 frames. IMHO that must be considered as an awesome result. Deliveries was 688.
(111 deliveries in December)
:o
124 widebodies (net)
560 A320Neo's (net)

Congratulations to Airbus.

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by chiad
Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders

georgiabill wrote:
Are IR'S orders reflected already in airbus order figures? If so then Boeing should also list their 80 orders from IR.


Well ... the Airbus order is firm while the Boeing order it not supposebly, so I guess no.
But hopefully Boeing will be able to firm it up in 2017, unless Trump f.... it up.

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by chiad
Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ft-433017/
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Asiaflyer wrote:
"Aviation Capital Group Signs Firm Order for 35 Airbus A320 Family Aircraft


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ft-433017/

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by chiad
Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders

Here's an interesting read from Reuters about Airbus' December performance. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbus-deliveries-idUSKBN14T1PC Orders Quote: "Aiming to stay ahead of Boeing in the race for new orders, rather than deliveries where it lags, Airbus may book for December at least par...

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by chiad
Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SpiceJet is close to ordering 92 Boeing 737s
Replies: 16
Views: 2664

Re: SpiceJet is close to ordering 92 Boeing 737s

Weird for them to call it "92" when 42 were already ordered. I know! The 42 was already ordered in 2014. And often an order includes already unidentified and sometimes lessors. We always have to wait until the firm orders is listed in the public orderbook to know for sure. But it seems li...

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by chiad
Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GECAS orders 75 additional 737MAX
Replies: 11
Views: 2562

Re: GECAS orders 75 additional 737MAX

What a time to be alive; in the past an order of 75 aircraft would have generated plenty of conversation and speculation here. Not so much nowadays, it seems. Good to see more 737-8MAX sales. :) Some people wait and see how many of these frames that might already be in the orderbook as Unidentified...

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by chiad
Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders - Part 2

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-12-11- ... -Airplanes

We'll soon know.
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persiangulf93 wrote:

Boeing order is firm


Hmmm. :scratchchin:
By the sound of this announcement I think that it's not!
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2016-12-11- ... -Airplanes

We'll soon know.

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by chiad
Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders - Part 2

Iran Air places its long awaited firm order at Airbus: Iran Air and Airbus have signed a firm contract for 100 aircraft, building on an initial commitment signed in January 2016 in Paris. The agreement signed by Farhad Parvaresh, Iran Air Chairman and CEO and Fabrice Bregier, Airbus President and C...

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by chiad
Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IranAir confirms cutting Airbus order, dropping A380s
Replies: 130
Views: 30773

Re: IranAir confirms cutting Airbus order, dropping A380s

The order has now been finalized according to Reuters "Iran finalises 100-jet deal with Airbus, first delivery in January - Reuters News http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-aircraft-idUSKBN1480HJ Also by Bloomberg, but no breakdown of each type yet. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...

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by chiad
Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian to become 1st 737 MAX operator?
Replies: 42
Views: 10769

Re: Norwegian to become 1st 737 MAX operator?

Finally, given the small number of A320NEOs in service, the 737Max will not be so late compared to the A320Neo It takes time to ramp-up production of a new type. It will for the Max as well, without any unforseens that might come. Now the NEO production is about 1 frame delivered per day. This will...

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by chiad
Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR to convert entire A320neo order to A321neo
Replies: 55
Views: 13689

Re: QR to convert entire A320neo order to A321neo

KarelXWB wrote:
QR wants to swap its entire A320neo order for the larger A321neo model.


Great news for both Airbus and QR.
I wonder if it includes the frames that were initially cancelled?

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by chiad
Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7
Replies: 2393
Views: 366554

Re: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 11

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 8/pubhtml#
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bahmed22 wrote:
Is there an online A32XNEO production list?


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 8/pubhtml#

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by chiad
Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders - Part 2

[quote="We could have a threat just for rumors and speculations :-)[/quote]

Yeah I guess but as I said before order rumours in A-net tend to be realised in one form or another.
I don't know. Maybe you're right.

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by chiad
Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders
Replies: 729
Views: 80421

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2016 Orders - Part 2

Dutchy wrote:
Shell we keep this threat for placed orders, not speculation?


I don't mind some speculations as there are not that many orders around anyway. Most of the speculations bear fruit in one shape or another as well.
But that's just me.

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