Pan Am flew so called feeder flights between various airports in Europe to other European airports in order to fill up their larger Boeing 747's that flew over to the USA. There were feeder flights from Oslo in Norway to London, England in order to fill up their Boeing 747 onward to New York for in...Jump to post
2175301 wrote:TWA772LR wrote:Did/will Airbus ever make money off the A380?
But, a number of respected analysts have estimated Airbus losses at at least $25 Billion for the A380 (high end estimates are $30 Billion loss)
Boeing pushed it with the NSA, then Airbus kicked their butts with the A320NEO . . Boeing needs to get their act together. Fortunately for Boeing, Airbus has indigestion with the A320NEO and A350 programs right now. Seems like Boeing has the "same" issues now. https://www.seattletimes.com...Jump to post
I think Scott is the first one who dares to say Boeing is in a deadlock with the NMA. "dares" because this won't give him any popularity points / invites for press events / interviews with the local aircraft manufacturer. Contrary to the wine zipping, yes nodding enthousiasts colleagues t...Jump to post
Will Boeing experience the same MAX delays as Airbus did with the NEO?
Airbus is slowly getting on track with the pile-up of gliders decreasing every week.
I'm of a mind that the A220's should not be used when comparing numbers between Boeing and Airbus. At present we are roughly comparing like with like both manufacturers make similar aircraft but the A220 will skew these figures and make a nonsense of the comparison as Boeing does not make such an a...Jump to post
If I remember correctly, I'm not sure, but wasn't there a large airshow last month??? Seriously, Airbus did announce more firm orders at the show than this single one. I guess it was just all show at the show. There is a difference between firm orders and the MOIs, LOIs and options everybody gets s...Jump to post
SamYeager2016 wrote:How many aircraft did Airbus manage to eventually deliver in July? Appears as if it should be a pretty decent number.
From what I can see as of 25th of may 297 A320neo including test aircraft still at Airbus 50 A321neo including test aircraft still at Airbus and about 128 MAX both 8&9 Thanks Arniepie. Do you mean that just shy of 350 Neo has been delivered? I also sit with the impression that there are several...Jump to post
A new order for the A380 might be on the horizon.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-emir ... SKBN1HI272
So would you prefer I use 2010's numbers to give Airbus a 100% market share (though they did it with only 30 frames)? Or would you prefer 2012's numbers since that was the first year both frames were available for sale for a complete calendar year, which would shrink the gap from 88/12 to 62/38 in ...Jump to post
It seems to me the 797 could me much more an attack on the 767/A330 replacement market, 250 seats up to 10 hours. That could be a plausible market. A question is the segment below that, won't the situation get out of hand there for Boeing (marketshare<35%). It's too bad pdxlite stopped updating his...Jump to post
LifelinerOne wrote:SaudiGulf has ordered 16 widebodies at Boeing:
https://twitter.com/scramble_nl/status/ ... 1716273154
For now , it seems there is no competition on narrowbodies. NEO can still outsell MAX even with this backlog. But there is still competition left for widebodies. When orders have been this low it doesn't matter: Airbus: 35 firm vs Boeing: 18 firm One major order will immediately reset the balance.Jump to post
Interesting that Turkish Airlines already have a delivery schedule for 60 planes even if only 50 is firm at the moment if above is correct. I think this whole order is still "only" a commitment. Quote Flight Global: Airbus, in confirming Turkish Airlines' A350 selection in a release of it...Jump to post
Turkish Airlines has struck deals covering orders for 25 Airbus A350-900s and another 25 Boeing 787-9s
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/
Flight Global reports Turkish Airlines commits to 25 A350-900s (+5 options) and 25 787-9s (+5 options).
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... -a-446654/
This shows the top 15 countries by total airliner passengers for 2017. https://i.imgur.com/HxQE9Ir.gif The passengers per capita column gives you a rough idea of how developed airline passenger service is in those countries. As you can see India is woefully behind the rest of the BRICS, so as the w...Jump to post
The A321LR is a perfectly timed aircraft. I expect Airbus to continue to capitalize on it for years. Boeing is too little too late with the 737-10. Maybe the MoM will be successful on the upper end. The 321LR can basically cover all existing narrowbody flights being flown today range wise and at a ...Jump to post
The A319neo completed first flight almost one year ago.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ht-435775/
It will enter service for sure.
ADrum23 wrote:So has HA officially cancelled their A330neo order and placed a 789 order, or is this still speculation?
The CFM Leap can't deliver the same max. thrust as the PW1100G, so if you want to get the most out of your A321NLR, you really need the PW engines. That being said, with today's PW engines your NEO LR is going nowhere... IMO, the A321NEO LR is a great concept, but it's not a B752 yet. :bored: Geez ...Jump to post
Airbus orders for January:
5 A320ceo (Spirit Airlines)
15 A320neo (CALC)
5 cancellations for A320neo
27 deliveries, incl 4 A350-900s and 2 A330-300's
http://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/o ... eries.html
On a passing note I think that means NEO sales just passed 6000 frames.
Boeing's central challenge with MOM/NMA is to define a market position where the A321neo or a rewinged version thereof has trouble competing, the same way the MAX 9/10 have trouble competing with the A321neo today. The biggest MOM/NMA needs to be bigger than a reasonable A321 stretch; have better C...Jump to post
Vistara may buy up to 60 NEO or MAX.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nst-boeing
StTim wrote:More of the march of the unstoppable A321neo-LR?
I thought that Norwegian had planned to only lease out the NEOs.Jump to post
A new addition in this category seems to be edging closer for both Boeing and Airbus:
Airbus plots response as Boeing warms to new jet
https://www.reuters.com/article/aviatio ... SL8N1PH5OX
Over the vast majority of missions the difference is minimal and adding one more comfort seat row or not, has a bigger effect on CASM than the choice of the aircraft. They are basically the same the A321NEO and 737-10. Only minor differences are the A321s 4000NM (e.g.Trans Atlantic) capability, ava...Jump to post
Oh I am not disagreeing that the A321neo sold more. But using 85% of the current total order market share to make your point is a very misleading when one plane has been available 4-5 years longer than the other. Even an eventual 60:40 split annually is very different from 85:15. Fair enough. I did...Jump to post
I get the impression most people think the A320NEO family is smashing the 737MAX family at the moment. I completely disagree. The Max is roughly a year behind the NEO. 15 month behind in first flight. Sales per year brings it to approx 45/55 split. The Max10 only just launched. Max family sales wou...Jump to post
KarelXWB wrote:Emirates commits to 20 additional A380s, plus 16 options.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... 6-billion#
36 A380 for Emirates :) Firm order + 16 options http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2018/01/18/97002-20180118FILWWW00116-emirates-annonce-avoir-commande-36-a380-pour-16-milliards-de-dollars.php Fantastic!! Thanks for the news! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/emirates-airline-orders-...Jump to post
Let’s hope this info is correct, if true they will finally rid themselves of those pesky, old 60’s dinosaurs: Posted earlier today in a Norwegian forum, and suposedly from an internal SAS memo: «We are happy to announce that we are now in final negotiations with Airbus for a large order of new shor...Jump to post
Amazing NEO sale for December. Does anyone know total sales? Should be just shy of 6000 frames me think. Order book stands at 5873 aircraft. Total sales: 33 A319neo, 4042 A320neo and 1920 A321neo, together 5995 A320neo family frames sold. The Backlog stands at: 33 A319neo, 3813 A320neo and 1900 A32...Jump to post
scbriml wrote:Say it quietly, but total A320 family sales is now getting very close to total 737 family sales - 14,120 to 14,532.
Total orders for December is as follows Middle East Airlines 1 x A321neo Qatar AIrways 50 X 321neo Viva Air 15 x 320ceo, 35 x A320neo Airspace Defence 5 X A330-200 Pegasus 25 x A321neo Delta Airlines 5 x A321ceo, 100 x A321neo Undisclosed 20 x A321neo Aercap 25 x A320neo,25 x A321neo ALC 2 x A320ne...Jump to post
qf789 wrote:Airbus receives 1109 orders
718 deliveries.Jump to post
Articles' salient points : 1. 184 A320 , "soon to be finalized says Macron"( on-top of the 140 A320 order announced by Xi Jinping in Germany mid-2017 ) for 2019-2020 delivery to 13 Chinese airlines 2. 500 Safran-GE engines to be announced soon [/quote] Does that mean we could see another 3...Jump to post
flee wrote:I would like to take this brief respite in deliveries to wish our hardworking KarelXWB a Happy New Year! Your contributions are much appreciated and thanks for keeping us informed here on A.Net. Have a great 2018!
I assume that Airbus "prefers" these conversions as the A321neo cost some $15 to $20 millions (at listprice) more than the A320neo.Jump to post
Of interest: Airbus Year-End Order Rush Masks Woes Selling Biggest Jets Over 1000 orders, but only 48 are wide-bodies. (carefully stepping over the subsequent fanboy rhetoric).. :) I'll put my cards on the table here and say that, 1000 orders or not, 2017 will be seen as a bad year for Airbus IMO. ...Jump to post
... A32X NEO November total A319 - 51, A320 - 3691,A321 - 1512, Total - 5254 December orders so far Indigo partners A320 - 274, A321 - 156, Total - 430 Delta A321 - 100, Total - 100 VIVA A320 - 35, A321 - 15 , Total - 50 Pegasus A320 - 25, A321 - 25 , Total - 50 Aercap Unspecified 50, Total - 50 (f...Jump to post