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by Route66
Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham
Replies: 428
Views: 48426

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

Since this thread is now about Boeing's finances (can a mod update the title, please?), I'll just chime in to note that on a Unit Cost basis, the 787 program recorded a profit every quarter in 2017 and ended up in the black by almost $4.7 billion. It was also profitable three quarters out of four i...

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by Route66
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham
Replies: 428
Views: 48426

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

Until I see the 787 cost reduction in actual decreasing deferred cost numbers, I have difficulties believing in them. People will drown grasping that straw. And once they hit 1400, that straw only gets smaller.. But let's say, for mjoelnir's sanity, Boeing wrote off all deferred costs this year. Bo...

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by Route66
Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:03 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Remembering Your Favorite Stadiums or Arenas
Replies: 22
Views: 629

Re: Remembering Your Favorite Stadiums or Arenas

As much of a monstrosity as it was (and how much better its replacement is), I kind of miss the Kingdome in Seattle. I have a lot of fond memories of watching Griffey and co. back in the '90s (even if they were rarely winning) and remember it as one of those venues that you kind of enjoyed for how ...

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by Route66
Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham
Replies: 428
Views: 48426

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

This whole differed cost thing is simply a way for Boeing detractors to cast shade but it is nothing more than a paper exercise at this point. Some are even talking nonsense about "debt", as if Boeing borrowed the money to develope the 787. They didn't, they owe nothing to anybody except s...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Carbon tax
Replies: 43
Views: 1459

Re: Carbon tax

The question for me is, is this growth rate sustainable and can't we tread aviation a bit more like an ordinary industry? And starting to have VAT and duty on fossil fuels, just like any other industry? We can start on internal (EU or US (I know not currently political obtainable) flights. And with...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Remembering Your Favorite Stadiums or Arenas
Replies: 22
Views: 629

Re: Remembering Your Favorite Stadiums or Arenas

As much of a monstrosity as it was (and how much better its replacement is), I kind of miss the Kingdome in Seattle. I have a lot of fond memories of watching Griffey and co. back in the '90s (even if they were rarely winning) and remember it as one of those venues that you kind of enjoyed for how ...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham
Replies: 428
Views: 48426

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

StTim wrote:

But it is close to protectionism. I wonder what fur would fly if say Airbus did a similar deal to oust the 787 at BA or Air France?


Curious, how do you know that? What evidence do you, or Leeham have that indicates they are selling 6 airplanes to a (relatively) two-bit airline at below costs?

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by Route66
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham
Replies: 428
Views: 48426

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

zkojq wrote:

He's not saying Airbus has a trade case, he's saying that the pricing is similar to what Boeing complained about in the Bombardier case and hence implying that Boeing is selling below cost.


"He" said no such thing. You said it.

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by Route66
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Political discussions in the workplace
Replies: 31
Views: 833

Re: Political discussions in the workplace

I asked if he had any guns taken away to which he said he didn't own any (as we know, Obama was this evil dictator bent on taking you guns). And I said that he didn't suffer then (and what does "suffer" mean in this context anyway?). I don't know, I might be taken aback about somebody ins...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Carbon tax
Replies: 43
Views: 1459

Re: Carbon tax

The question for me is, is this growth rate sustainable and can't we tread aviation a bit more like an ordinary industry? And starting to have VAT and duty on fossil fuels, just like any other industry? We can start on internal (EU or US (I know not currently political obtainable) flights. And with...

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by Route66
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:09 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Israeli's Loose an F-16
Replies: 57
Views: 4033

Re: Israeli's Loose an F-16

Israel and Russia are not enemies, they only have different interests in Syria. They have met recently and have an agreement not to shoot at each other. The Russians don't care if Israel attacks Iran and/or Hezbollah in Syria, they also don't have the same interests as Moscow in Syria and the Russia...

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by Route66
Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leahy: A380 could have had better engine technology
Replies: 154
Views: 17078

Re: Leahy: A380 could have had better engine technology

Sure, but if they didn't pass on information to Airbus that in a few years time there could be better engines if they knew it then they were deliberately misleading them on what they could offer. I have no problem with the OEMs doing this, but don't pretend that if they did do this on purpose that ...

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by Route66
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Bristol Palin is single and ready to mingle!
Replies: 29
Views: 1014

Re: Bristol Palin is single and ready to mingle!

High quality gossip! Straight from People Magazine! This is some quaality internet!

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by Route66
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:04 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 3-Year Old Boy screams for 8-hours on flight.
Replies: 154
Views: 11933

Re: 3-Year Old Boy screams for 8-hours on flight.

Punishment is a system that works on fear. And by making your kids afraid of an authority figure, rather than learning to respect that authority figure, you are making them complacent in oppression. Don't be surprised if you made your children afraid of you, to see them being complicit in a genocid...

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by Route66
Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 3-Year Old Boy screams for 8-hours on flight.
Replies: 154
Views: 11933

Re: 3-Year Old Boy screams for 8-hours on flight.

tonyban and tonystan. Hey, that rhymes!

A kid with behavioral problems needs a correction. If all the nice ways fail, then yes, he needs a little pain to reinforce the lesson. That behavior is simply unacceptable and that mother is a bad parent. Period. She IS the reason he has behavior problems.

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by Route66
Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus increases profit by 189% in 2017
Replies: 36
Views: 3343

Re: Airbus has a high of 189% in profits in 2017

Sadly, I hold a different view. This thread is about Airbus, yes, not about Boeing. But this thread is "Re: Airbus has a high of 189% in profits in 2017". Thus it is about the presentation of the Airbus 2017 accounts, etc etc etc. There was a great number of commercial and industrial issu...

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by Route66
Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus increases profit by 189% in 2017
Replies: 36
Views: 3343

Re: Airbus increases profit by 189% in 2017

mjoelnir wrote:
So what, I would rather see real good not through cost deferrals inflated profits.


I hadn't heard about Boeing cost deferrals in 2017. How much was there?

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by Route66
Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing prepares 10,000th 737 aircraft
Replies: 90
Views: 13013

Re: Boeing prepares 10,000th 737 aircraft

So according to the article link below, Spirit "delivered" 737 fuselage #5000 on June 11, 2014 (44 months ago) and they apparently ship them almost immediately to Renton from what I can find. Boeing was cranking out 42 completed 737s per month at that time which has now been upped to 47. ...

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by Route66
Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans
Replies: 1159
Views: 197432

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

Southwest, American, United and Delta as launch customers, that would be unique demonstration of superiority when such big names sign up for one plane. Nobody knows exactly what the "797" is, yet it's already superior to the competition it doesn't have? :rotfl: I'll go out on a limb and g...

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by Route66
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta wants to be the launch customer for 797
Replies: 171
Views: 23960

Re: Delta wants to be the launch customer for 797

Why would Boeing give DL that luxury when they've dissed Boeing for many airplanes in the past? Really? They cancelled an order that was assumed form NW. Choosing a 321 or the 330s they got for unbeatable prices isn’t dissing Boeing. It is called being responsible. Just like their huge order of 737...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing's Newest Airplane Could Improve Alaska Air's Fortunes
Replies: 26
Views: 6859

Re: Boeing's Newest Airplane Could Improve Alaska Air's Fortunes

However, rising costs WHAT rising costs? Oil is still cheap, right? What possible rising costs could they encounter? Also, this article was written by a website called Motley Fool, a subsidiary of Motley Wealth Management. Anyone ever heard about them? You haven't? They've been around for many year...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy
Replies: 144
Views: 4417

Re: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

I vote principles over my personal interests all the time. You don't? What principles are you speaking of? Blaming others for your own problems? I have no idea what that response is all about. I've often voted against my own personal interests for the good of society. Don't you? By principles, do y...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump's Infrastructure Plan
Replies: 29
Views: 833

Re: Trump's Infrastructure Plan

The public sector in the U.S. has built the interstate system, the airport system (and the airspace system, forgot about that), most of the public transit system (with the exception of the original NYC transit system), and all of the ports. We can do it again. We don’t need to put “signature projec...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:27 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy
Replies: 144
Views: 4417

Re: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

LMP737 wrote:
That's because we have become a nation of bullies who are willing to vote against their own long term self interest.


I vote principles over my personal interests all the time. You don't?

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy
Replies: 144
Views: 4417

Re: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

I looked at the history. You all should have too. Put this in the context of over 30 years in a cutthroat New York industry. He filed 4 bankruptcies in 1990-92. All in succession and look to be Atlantic City-recession related. Another in 2006 and the last in 2009, also recession related. I had to lo...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 'Mob' breaks out at Des Moines International Airport after 14-hour delay
Replies: 69
Views: 11222

Re: 'Mob' breaks out at Des Moines International Airport after 14-hour delay

^^^ This is why I do not want to see G4 come into BNA as a lot of people here seem to want. That's very thoughtful of you to not want an airline to come in that allows an entire segment of people to travel that likely otherwise cannot afford to fly anywhere. How about you just don't fly them if the...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy
Replies: 144
Views: 4417

Re: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

Trump is abandoning deficit control. Wants to be known for the HUUUUUUGGGGGGGEEEESSSST deficits. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trumps-trillion-budget-helps-move-deficit-sharply-higher-53011637 "Instead, the new budget deal and last year's tax cuts herald the return of trillion dolla...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: The great Singer/Songwriter Paul Simon is retiring from Music
Replies: 11
Views: 444

Re: The great Singer/Songwriter Paul Simon is retiring from Music

I was at the Central Park concert, a memory for life. Happy Trails to both of them.

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tariffs or sanctions against Airbus imports into the US are possible if Airbus loses at the WTO, says Boeing
Replies: 78
Views: 8983

Re: Tariffs or sanctions against Airbus imports into the US are possible if Airbus loses at the WTO, says Boeing

For all those who usually profess the sanctity of "world" organizations, often from Europe, is the WTO a legitimate world body, or not?

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by Route66
Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing wants to buy woodward
Replies: 37
Views: 5814

Re: Boeing wants to buy woodward

News - Boeing is flush with cash. A.net "popular opinion" Boeing is nearly Broke!! You can have all the cash you like and still be effectively broke ( more dept than assets.) Obvious that if you draw money from customers early and pay suppliers late you will show much more liquidity. last...

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by Route66
Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing wants to buy woodward
Replies: 37
Views: 5814

Re: Boeing wants to buy woodward

Varsity1 wrote:
News - Boeing is flush with cash.

A.net "popular opinion" Boeing is nearly Broke!!


And will never "pay off" the 787 development costs.

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by Route66
Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WSJ: Amazon to Launch Delivery Service That Would Vie With FedEx, UPS
Replies: 92
Views: 8960

Re: WSJ: Amazon to Launch Delivery Service That Would Vie With FedEx, UPS

Not to nit pick, but it's actually very pertinent to this conversation...Amazon does not own their own final mile delivery company with the only exception being a very small test in Seattle, WA. They instead rely solely upon a network of third party logistics carriers. I believe this is about to ch...

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by Route66
Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS, B6, UA & WN fight WA State's new sick leave law
Replies: 67
Views: 5776

Re: AS, B6, UA & WN fight WA State's new sick leave law

I don't know if you live in the state, but if you don't, then who gives you the say on telling other people to leave the USA? This sick leave provision is pretty tiny. Wait. So if someone states a fact, you tell them to leave? . It is a bit unfair to attack him when he was told to do the same thing...

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by Route66
Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN plane skids down taxiway @ BWI
Replies: 5
Views: 774

Re: WN plane skids down taxiway @ BWI

It makes no sense. That isn't a direct quote but it is written by the meteorologist.

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by Route66
Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:03 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Turkey prepares to "suffocate" Syrian Kurdistan
Replies: 53
Views: 1874

Re: Turkey prepares to "suffocate" Syrian Kurdistan

I had written: However, as unfortunate as the current circumstance is, the Kurds have nowhere been driven from their homes en mass or been subjected to brutal repression merely for existing, as have the Palestinians. Furthermore, the Kurd situation is stable, there is no significant attempt in plac...

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by Route66
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca B787 N784AV sitting in Bogota missing both engines
Replies: 13
Views: 4435

Re: Avianca B787 N784AV sitting in Bogota missing both engines

This is two threads on two airlines on the front page. Things seem to be getting worse.

What is the status, do they have the parts to fix these engines?

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: My Next Trip Around Europe
Replies: 19
Views: 847

Re: My Next Trip Around Europe

Personally, I'd never leave Italy if I didn't have more than a month - at least..

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Refuses to Enact New Russia Sanctions Law
Replies: 98
Views: 2570

Re: Trump Refuses to Enact New Russia Sanctions Law

Putins not dangerous, America is dangerous, plus it’s not just Germany buying Russian gas, the US should stop meddling in European affairs, wasn’t the US under Trump supposed to isolate itself from the world, it’s not doing a very good job of it. I don't believe the Americans really care enough to ...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Air Show 6-9 FEB 2018
Replies: 56
Views: 14332

Re: Singapore Air Show 6-9 FEB 2018

What new bill? Do you have the number? I happened across a beautiful picture of Singapore today on Boeing's homepage. http://www.boeing.com/ I am sure Boeing should do well in Asia too ;) As to the bill being studied ( not passed yet ), my memory fails me as to the specifics, but had to do with a r...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Next cities to be granted NBA expansion teams
Replies: 14
Views: 740

Re: Next cities to be granted NBA expansion teams

As for the OP's hope for a new Seattle franchise now that Key Arena is being renovated. I had hoped that the SODO arena that Chris Hansen wanted to build would have been chosen instead. That location has easy freeway and light rail access. Key Arena is in the middle of downtown on surface streets i...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump Refuses to Enact New Russia Sanctions Law
Replies: 98
Views: 2570

Re: Trump Refuses to Enact New Russia Sanctions Law

The United States has previously worked in tandem with the EU to develop sanctions responses to Russian aggression over the annexation of Crimea from Ukraine. The economic bloc worries that American sanctions developed without their input could jeopardise the continent’s energy security. That inclu...

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Best music platform for downloading songs
Replies: 6
Views: 400

Re: Best music platform for downloading songs

Is it your aim to stay legal? If so, the youtube conversions are probably not. Neither are torrents, but that is another way. The Pirate Bay lives on.

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by Route66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: US imposes new tariffs on imported solar panels
Replies: 70
Views: 2157

Re: US imposes new tariffs on imported solar panels

how is that a win? Did you ask yourself if a Chinese company can do it, why can't a American company? They will create jobs but they will send the profits back to China. China is winning on the trading war simple because Trump want's to dismantle everything Obama did. Historian will look back at th...

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by Route66
Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS announces order for 14 747-8F and 4 767F
Replies: 169
Views: 24151

Re: UPS announces order for 14 747-8F and 4 767F

But that UPS order was than advertised here as up to 28 frames, the firming of the later 14 sure to come. Probably not unlike the current A380 thread that incorrectly states Emirates "committed" to 36 A380s (they didn't), but do you have a link to the advertising of 28 frames "sold&q...

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by Route66
Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Air Show 6-9 FEB 2018
Replies: 56
Views: 14332

Re: Singapore Air Show 6-9 FEB 2018

How they ventilate that between their 3 airlines is the real question. If they choose to continue the political 50/50 parity. Because of the new Bill crafted in the US, they cannot go below 50 for Boeing. What new bill? Do you have the number? I happened across a beautiful picture of Singapore toda...

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by Route66
Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ
Replies: 433
Views: 47809

Re: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ

Boeing currently has hundreds of industrial partnerships. Including with Embraer. Your posts are misguided, at best. But you go with that hate... They do not have any partnerships with competitors. A nonsensical moving of the goalposts. Of course they do. Who do you think they partner up with for l...

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by Route66
Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ
Replies: 433
Views: 47809

Re: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ

Given Boeing's previous history - why the f would anyone want to partner with them? Because Embraer and the Brazilian government want to make money, if they wanted friends they can go on Facebook. Partnering with the snakes in Chicago is not the way to make money. They'll have all sorts of maneuver...

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by Route66
Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Subsurface Defect Led to Uncontained Engine Failure - 2016 AA 763 engine fire
Replies: 29
Views: 4587

Re: Subsurface Defect Led to Uncontained Engine Failure - 2016 AA 763 engine fire

There is a photo somewhere on A.net of one of the other four pieces of that turbine disk which detached from the engine. A huge piece of disk. It's sitting stuck in an engine nacelle...the 767's other engine nacelle clear on the other side of the fuselage. It went right through the fuselage and end...

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by Route66
Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Hawaii see Flights to Europe?
Replies: 70
Views: 7752

Re: Will Hawaii see Flights to Europe?

Just so we can throw some actual numbers into the conversation: http://www.hawaiitourismauthority.org/research/research/visitor-highlights/ Europe: Total visitor arrivals from the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy and Switzerland declined in 2017 (-2.9% to 139,780) and was flat (-0.3% to 10,63...

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by Route66
Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: German carmakers backed studies exposing people and monkeys to toxic car exhaust
Replies: 27
Views: 876

Re: German Auto Manufacturers Sponsored Gassing of People and Primates

Could some please change the title? It is a distasteful reference to WWII. Yes, it is. And it should not be forgotten, as we see today. Don't like that word :gas"? Even the German press is using it.... [A huge emissions-cheating scandal, accusations of widespread collusion and now experiments ...

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