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by SC430
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target

SQ22 wrote:
Is there any need of having the onging B vs. A discussions? If you can't stop eith it thread will be locked.



If you don't like a discussion ignore it. What's the big deal?

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by SC430
Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 2018 deliveries forecast, 800?
Replies: 54
Views: 4667

Re: Boeing 2018 deliveries forecast, 800?

The for now EU created Airbus to make planes, hire workers, and establish a world class aviation industry. It succeeded. In the US while corporations were originally given all their special privileges in return for profiting investors AND benefiting society. Corporations have been able to largely s...

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by SC430
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 2018 deliveries forecast, 800?
Replies: 54
Views: 4667

Re: Boeing 2018 deliveries forecast, 800?

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/11/ ... irbus.aspx

The article above strongly suggests low pricing during the Leahy years as part of the reason for the huge profit/cash flow differences between A & B
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https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/11/ ... irbus.aspx

The article above strongly suggests low pricing during the Leahy years as part of the reason for the huge profit/cash flow differences between A & B

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by SC430
Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 2018 deliveries forecast, 800?
Replies: 54
Views: 4667

Re: Boeing 2018 deliveries forecast, 800?

A. boys don't like talking about cash flow, because that is where Boeing really shines over Airbus. You are correct that cash flow is king, especially is Aerospace where R & D ability is important. Boeing delivers more aircraft annually, and the average Boeing delivery has more value because Boe...

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by SC430
Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

So you don’t think Airbus can rack up 600 orders in two months? Where is your faith? The "rainmaker" is gone. Yes the one that magically sells 450 planes in an order placed at 11:59 on New Years Eve. Every year he seemed to have a 'hail Mary" that was the winning score. As usual Boei...

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

In 2014 John Leahy and other Airbus honchos held a press conference to announce a recently signed order with Amedeo,a leasing company. Leahy proudly announced " This FIRM order from Amedeo is a clear recognition of the A380's long-term market appeal" We later learned this was more of a re-...

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal As I read the Flight Global article, I was wondering how long it would take for A.net to come out and put a negative headline spin to that. I just knew if would not be disappointed. It was not question of if, just a question of when, and by whom . . . Hap...

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

Did Boeing do this when they acquired MD? I wasn't aware Airbus had "acquired" Bombardier? In late 2017 Airbus announced to the world it would deliver 800 frames this year. Through out the year as problems arose they maintained this was still doable. Along comes October O&D reports an...

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

How dare they include Airbus A220 in their production list! Blasphemy I tell you! They are including C Series jets BBD produced and sold. That is not the point of the delivery number which is used to give investors guidance on expected revenue. Including aircraft they have no right to list is borde...

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

The author of the article saw this for what it is, a "jiggering" of the numbers. :stirthepot:

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

Doesn't seem to be an issue to me, Airbus aren't hiding the fact that they're having problems with production. From your article: Airbus concedes that, even with this switch, the delivery target is becoming a “greater stretch”. The A330neo engine supply issue, it says, adds further pressure to its ...

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by SC430
Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Airbus revises 2018 delivery target

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... yptr=yahoo

Airbus is counting A220 planes it did not sell or build in it's delivery total. Not good leadership.
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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... yptr=yahoo

Airbus is counting A220 planes it did not sell or build in it's delivery total. Not good leadership.

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by SC430
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1377
Views: 296705

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

They have been in business 14 years and had 14 crashes. That's the accident rate. How many other carriers average 1 crasht per year of operations? Lion Air's been in business for 18 years - they commenced operations in 2000. Plus they didn't have 14 crashes - they had 5. The rest are incidents whic...

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by SC430
Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1377
Views: 296705

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

14 major incidents in about as many years. And they don't fly that many planes!!!

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by SC430
Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Q3 2018
Replies: 63
Views: 4823

Re: Boeing Q3 2018

In theory AB could counter BA but in reality AB has not had the cash flow to counter BA for 3-4 years. One of the reasons why Airbus is behind in cash is the maturity of its programs, and if you take a look of their high inventory you will see how that's eating its cash. A350 will only start genera...

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by SC430
Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Q3 2018
Replies: 63
Views: 4823

Re: Boeing Q3 2018

On the surface A & B look petty equal. Both produce excellent,safe, appealing products. But any differences in sales and deliveries do not explain the difference with the results. The first priority of the incoming boss at Airbus should be to look at why Boeing has more cash than it knows what ...

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by SC430
Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Q3 2018
Replies: 63
Views: 4823

Re: Boeing Q3 2018

On the surface A & B look petty equal. Both produce excellent,safe, appealing products. But any differences in sales and deliveries do not explain the difference with the results. The first priority of the incoming boss at Airbus should be to look at why Boeing has more cash than it knows what t...

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by SC430
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Q3 2018
Replies: 63
Views: 4823

Re: Boeing Q3 2018

Looking at it further I would say Boeing is now in the ballpark of takinging the block to zero within the current accounting block. I suspect it goes to zero in 2022-23 provided they can sustain delivery rates through that period. We should start seeing billion plus dollar reductions each quarter i...

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by SC430
Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus faces new jet delays at Hamburg plant - sources
Replies: 17
Views: 3895

Re: Airbus faces new jet delays at Hamburg plant - sources

I couldn't help but notice Airbus is counting (8) aircraft built by Bombardier in their totals. Anything to make the numbers look better than they really are, I guess :banghead: I'm surprised that you are surprised (my presumption), given their continuing-to-be-in-the-books phantom A380 orders, the...

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by SC430
Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus faces new jet delays at Hamburg plant - sources
Replies: 17
Views: 3895

Re: Airbus faces new jet delays at Hamburg plant - sources

I couldn't help but notice Airbus is counting (8) aircraft built by Bombardier in their totals. Anything to make the numbers look better than they really are, I guess

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by SC430
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Nomadd wrote:
Never thought I'd see a year where the 767 outsold the 777.


767 also out sold the A330 and A350. Boeing is killing it in the Wide Body sector.

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by SC430
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will we ever see an Airbus 380 stretch ?
Replies: 140
Views: 19542

Re: Will we ever see an Airbus 380 stretch ?

It has been six years since any airline other than EK ordered an A380. Why would you ever spend more money to stretch it?

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by SC430
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

I'm of a mind that the A220's should not be used when comparing numbers between Boeing and Airbus. At present we are roughly comparing like with like both manufacturers make similar aircraft but the A220 will skew these figures and make a nonsense of the comparison as Boeing does not make such an a...

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by SC430
Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

I'm of a mind that the A220's should not be used when comparing numbers between Boeing and Airbus. At present we are roughly comparing like with like both manufacturers make similar aircraft but the A220 will skew these figures and make a nonsense of the comparison as Boeing does not make such an a...

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by SC430
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should Airbus focus on A220 product increase instead of A320 mid-term?
Replies: 54
Views: 5539

Re: Should Airbus focus on A220 product increase instead of A320 mid-term?

In the end of the day, the more A220 Airbus sells, the more the programme will be worth when they buy BBD and Quebec Government's share, I think Airbus will wait until it becomes a 100% Airbus product before doing any of that. I agree. If Airbus see the product is appreciated, they'll push it. They...

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by SC430
Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future
Replies: 217
Views: 28664

Re: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future

For 12 years here on a.net my issue with the 380 was always the economics of its size (and the chaos that was the engineering on the program). I was ridiculed, moderated to hell and back, etc My sympathy... I can't imagine how frustrating A380 discussions here were before we had actual market failu...

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by SC430
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?
Replies: 57
Views: 13489

Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

There are currently more orders now than the backlog when the 767 entered service in the 80s, counting the order that FedEx just placed. Also, there are only 38 frames on the order books for the tanker program. The contract calls for I believe, 179. I guess they will add some every year. The USAF e...

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by SC430
Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?
Replies: 57
Views: 13489

Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

The last passenger model was purchased by LATAM Airlines in 2011. Since then all new orders are either for freighters or the K46 tanker program. At the planned production rate of 30 per year the 767 line will be around for at least another 15 years. Actually it was Air Astana that took the last del...

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by SC430
Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?
Replies: 57
Views: 13489

Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

The last passenger model was purchased by LATAM Airlines in 2011. Since then all new orders are either for freighters or the K46 tanker program. At the planned production rate of 30 per year the 767 line will be around for at least another 15 years.

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by SC430
Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts
Replies: 29
Views: 3322

Re: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts

You really don't expect much from management do you? As opposed to, what exactly? I came to ignore any post made by SC430. No matter what other OEMs do isn't enough to please him, even if we present to him/her some hard facts. #1 Boeing fangirl yo! Sorry for this useless post......Friday ranting ov...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts
Replies: 29
Views: 3322

Re: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts

Let's see, A380 is still an anchor, A330 production has been lowered, A330 and A350 sales have stalled, no meaningful competitive freighter, despite claims of becoming the top producer by 2018 that's not happening..... sure things are just ducky at Airbus !! Two years ago AIrbus was a much more opt...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts
Replies: 29
Views: 3322

Re: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts

The second quarter was up partly due to costs being absorbed in the previous quarter. Quarter to quarter fluctuations are meaningless. Your make excuses and give no solutions. The poster claimed Enders can leave with things looking up, I take exception to that. show me where I was wrong? Does a cla...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts
Replies: 29
Views: 3322

Re: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts

From the OP's 1st link: For the first time, Airbus said it had delivered more of the A320neo jets carrying new engines in the second quarter than the previous A320 version. But it said risks remained to its “challenging” delivery forecast of 800 in total this year. Finally! This has been a challeng...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts
Replies: 29
Views: 3322

Re: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-airbus-results/airbus-second-quarter-core-profit-doubles-after-a350-cost-improvements-idUKKBN1KG0EZ says: Looks like A320 is turning the corner and A350 is finally gaining cash cow status. Also: Looks like Enders will be able to head into retirement knowing things ...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts
Replies: 29
Views: 3322

Re: Airbus shares hit record after core profit tops forecasts

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-airbus-results/airbus-second-quarter-core-profit-doubles-after-a350-cost-improvements-idUKKBN1KG0EZ says: PARIS (Reuters) - Airbus (AIR.PA) posted higher than expected second-quarter earnings on Thursday and reaffirmed its full-year goals, as bottlenecks of undeliv...

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by SC430
Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Wow Airbus better buckle up to catch up with Boeing this year. Dont think there will be another 400 A320 orders aircraft for them to log in this year in order to catch up with Boeing Here's the thing: Starting July 1st, they will be able to add the A220 family orders to their totals. That might sta...

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by SC430
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future
Replies: 217
Views: 28664

Re: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future

You know I wish airbus would kill the a380 to stop driveling posts on a.net. Considering the venom it has received here over a decade some posters mental health would be in serious jeopardy if they didn't have the A380 to vent their anger and frustration on. So in a way the A380 protects some fragi...

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by SC430
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines firms order for 10 787-9's plus 10 options
Replies: 53
Views: 10915

Re: Hawaiian Airlines firms order for 10 787-9's plus 10 options

Odd that Airbus is usually so good at deciphering and planning market sectors and plane sizes, and yet missed predicting proper demand levels for both the A338 and the A358. the fact the a380 exists is proof that what you said isn't true. I would add that Airbus has allowed itself to have no credib...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future
Replies: 217
Views: 28664

Re: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future

Boeing should be more concerned with the Hunchback that had it last passenger unit delivered a year ago and has a backlog of 0 than the A380 with over 100 aircraft left to deliver. Maybe Boeing will keep re-announcing every LOI, MOU, commitment, firm with cargo customers two times like they did wit...

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by SC430
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

With the addition of regional jets now a done deal it's time to look at the value of sales and delivery closer. Counting a A220 equally with an A380 when the latter costs five times more is just stupid. Considering that here so far a 737-7 and a 787-10 were dropped into the same bag, I’d say you lo...

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by SC430
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 478
Views: 117014

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Guess Airbus can bag that order for 60 A220-300 from JetBlue into their books. In addition a conversion for 25 A320neo into A321neo With the addition of regional jets now a done deal it's time to look at the value of sales and delivery closer. Counting a A220 equally with an A380 when the latter co...

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by SC430
Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Is in Talks With British Airways on More A380s
Replies: 561
Views: 101779

Re: Airbus Is in Talks With British Airways on More A380s

You're calling $20-25 billion (conservatively) in development costs plus another few billion in losses on the almost 200 airplanes they delivered at a loss not a heavy loss for Airbus? Whoa!!! Most of the development costs were paid up front, most of the rest (if not all of it) were written off. Th...

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by SC430
Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bamboo Airways to order 20 B787-9's
Replies: 60
Views: 12166

Re: Bomboo Airways to order 20 B787-9's

musman9853 wrote:
787 is beating the a330neo badly. Airbus desperately needs tons more orders for it to even compete with the 787.


The Dreamliner has been selling more planes than all (3) Airbus WB programs combined.

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by SC430
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Iran seeks to sue Boeing.
Replies: 109
Views: 7242

Re: Iran seeks to sue Boeing.

Communism is, by its very nature, evil. History proves that. The kulaks. The gulags. The purges. The reeducation camps. One could go one. The Cultural Revolution was a massive own goal. Democracies have some explaining to do too. US slave holding, treatment of Native Americans, various attempts to ...

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by SC430
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Iran seeks to sue Boeing.
Replies: 109
Views: 7242

Re: Iran seeks to sue Boeing.

I'd expect those Iranian Airlines who ordered those planes are as entitled to the protection of contract law as any other purchaser. If they entered a contract with Boeing and Boeing failed to honour the contract then it is simple breach and should be compensated. Such contracts have clauses dealin...

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by SC430
Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Boeing build its new mid-market aircraft in Washington?
Replies: 119
Views: 10015

Re: Will Boeing build its new mid-market aircraft in Washington?

Washington made the top of the list in a recent study by Teal Group.

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by SC430
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus faces “unprecedented challenge” to hit delivery target
Replies: 104
Views: 13758

Re: Airbus faces “unprecedented challenge” to hit delivery target

After seeing the May numbers, I'll go out on a limb here.... Airbus will never hit 800 deliveries this year !! I would not be as sure as you. They proved they could deliver 127 in one month. so 200 deliveries in december could be feasible. If its not 800 it will be 780 or 790. nothing to worry abou...

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by SC430
Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus faces “unprecedented challenge” to hit delivery target
Replies: 104
Views: 13758

Re: Airbus faces “unprecedented challenge” to hit delivery target

...in this case I go with what the Airbus executives are saying, whether good or bad they should know, unless someone has some evidence to say that this executive is out of touch or is new so does not know exactly what Airbus is doing, its not as if he works for Boeing in which case we can say fals...

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by SC430
Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus sales chief defiant on A330neo demand as Boeing seals new win
Replies: 132
Views: 26944

Re: Airbus sales chief defiant on A330neo demand as Boeing seals new win

Agreed. Airbus look to be wedged into a fairly tight niche. And once the 330ceo is gone, Airbus will be left with the not quite new 330neo plus the A350, while Boeing will have the 787, 777x and (soon after) the 797 bracketing the Airbus offerings. Also, I can see airlines becoming nervous about ta...

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by SC430
Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus sales chief defiant on A330neo demand as Boeing seals new win
Replies: 132
Views: 26944

Re: Airbus sales chief defiant on A330neo demand as Boeing seals new win

Nah... Give the A330 NEO time to prove itself. I think thay what's really holding off customers is the engine issue and market timing. Airlines want to see RR get their stuff together on this engine which is as good as a copy paste of the Trent 1000. I think that Airbus should be pushing the produc...

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