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by barney captain
Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air China pilots depressurize plane accidentally to smoke in cockpit
Replies: 26
Views: 7297

Re: Air China pilots depressurize plane accidentally to smoke in cockpit

And we don't know if they were below minimum O2. There is no "minimum O2" - there are oxygen generators. They are activated when pax "pull down firmly on the mask to start the flow of oxygen". They are good for about 15 minutes and, once activated - are gone for good. The cockpi...

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by barney captain
Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Southwest Airlines going Peanut Free!
Replies: 150
Views: 8833

Re: Southwest Airlines going Peanut Free!

Per the latest info, preboarding will still be offered to anyone claiming a peanut allergy. This will allow them time to wipe down any surfaces.

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by barney captain
Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Couple in hot water over "Stupid" stunt at SXM
Replies: 44
Views: 8907

Re: Couple in hot water over "Stupid" stunt at SXM

It looks more like a corporate jet - possibly a Global Express, and two complete morons.

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by barney captain
Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???
Replies: 114
Views: 13877

Re: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???

He also says that the plane landed with just two engines as to be able to start the other two and taxi to the final resting spot which is a bit away. Suspicions confirmed - judgment = zero. SMH I found interesting how many people write in this forum, w/o knowing. Il 62M, engines 1&4 get Reverse...

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by barney captain
Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?
Replies: 122
Views: 21652

Re: Rumour: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?

WPvsMW wrote:
WN is beyond the pale... it's domestic.


It is?


See where we fly.

Aruba
Belize
Cabo San Lucas/Los Cabos
Cancun
Grand Cayman
Havana
Liberia, Costa Rica
Mexico City
Montego Bay
Nassau, Bahamas
Puerto Vallarta
Punta Cana
San Jose, Costa Rica
Turks and Caicos

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by barney captain
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?
Replies: 122
Views: 21652

Re: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?

Zero credibility because it was stated as - wait for it - a rumor. :roll: Your 'opinion' carries exactly as much weight as this rumor. And quite frankly a rumor that has surfaced many times over the years - within the ranks of both employee groups. This isn't new. I can say that the image from the ...

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by barney captain
Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?
Replies: 122
Views: 21652

Re: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?

The OP is drawing a wild conclusion from two separate stories. The first WN is freezing hiring because of planned capapcity cuts not a buyout of HA. Rising oil and falling RASM will do that. The second is a baseles rumor that Delta is getting 25 more 717s. So the OP put both unrelated stories toget...

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by barney captain
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?
Replies: 122
Views: 21652

Re: Southwest to acquire Hawaiian?

wnflyguy wrote:
fuel prices have tripled.

Flyguy


We have been paying WAY over market value for fuel for many years. Think poorly placed fuel hedges.

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air 773 suffers from broken axle on landing at NRT
Replies: 69
Views: 15590

Re: Korean Air 773 suffers from broken axle on landing at NRT

What would this look and feel like in the cockpit? Does it light up like a Christmas tree? There really is nothing to "light up" - as there is no Broken Axle Warning. Other than the feeling that 'something' went wrong, they probably had no idea what exactly it was. Likely some combination...

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Korean Air 773 suffers from broken axle on landing at NRT
Replies: 69
Views: 15590

Re: Korean Air 773 suffers from broken axle on landing at NRT

What would this look and feel like in the cockpit? Does it light up like a Christmas tree? There really is nothing to "light up" - as there is no Broken Axle Warning. Other than the feeling that 'something' went wrong, they probably had no idea what exactly it was. Likely some combination...

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???
Replies: 114
Views: 13877

Re: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???

Barney, give it a rest will you? This whole flight was a non-standard operating procedure that was planned out in advance. Sure it was risky, but it WAS planned. would such a flight be planned or allowed today, unlikely. But this was the 1980s. At the same time we still allowed people to smoke insi...

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???
Replies: 114
Views: 13877

Re: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???

rlwynn wrote:
He also says that the plane landed with just two engines as to be able to start the other two and taxi to the final resting spot which is a bit away.


Suspicions confirmed - judgment = zero.

SMH

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???
Replies: 114
Views: 13877

Re: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???

The pilot had walked the whole field beforehand, and was probably very aware of a small hill during the roll-out and didn't want the nose gear to snap off and bury his feet into the dirt. Having the nose that high would also have made the wing act as a giant speed brake. Not sure the reverse thrust...

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???
Replies: 114
Views: 13877

Re: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???

Not impressed. You are an accomplished IL-62 pilot? How many hours under your belt? I'm not exactly sure - I stop counting several years ago, but roughly 24000 hours - and still 11 years to retirement. :) Aircraft are aircraft, and that was bad form - even (actually, especially) on a grass strip. T...

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???
Replies: 114
Views: 13877

Re: Interflug IL-62 Landing on a Grass Field???

Mad skills from the pilot as it only took 900m from touchdown to stop the plane. I honestly felt everything about it was poorly executed - and no way was that "wheely" anything more than an overreaction (or possibly a late attempt at another go-around). The full reverse, well after coming...

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by barney captain
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DY emergency landing at BHX
Replies: 8
Views: 1235

Re: DY emergency landing at BHX

Ground spoilers only (no flight spoilers) - and only on the right side. Likely an A system loss.

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by barney captain
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Land terribly when on a solo flight.
Replies: 34
Views: 2702

Re: Land terribly when on a solo flight.

It's the weight issue - a heavier aircraft will float much less than one with only one person.

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by barney captain
Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Passenger films runway excursion
Replies: 20
Views: 7289

Re: Passenger films runway excursion

https://www.avianews.com/incidents/2018 ... _slideoff/


I'm not sure about being "ok" - are the main wheels still attached? It doesn't appear so.
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soflaflyer wrote:
According to this article, fortunately no one was hurt. A/C looks ok
https://www.avianews.com/incidents/2018 ... _slideoff/


I'm not sure about being "ok" - are the main wheels still attached? It doesn't appear so.

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by barney captain
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA1897 SAT-PHX Diverted suffering hail damage
Replies: 64
Views: 8736

Re: AA1897 SAT-PHX Divert

In the U.S., the dispatcher absolutely has the authority and obligation to say something like, "you need to move away from that weather directly ahead now". Whether you want to call that an order or a recommendation is semantics. As you know, the pilot in command and dispatcher are jointl...

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by barney captain
Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA1897 SAT-PHX Diverted suffering hail damage
Replies: 64
Views: 8736

Re: AA1897 SAT-PHX Divert

Hard to imagine any pilot knowingly flying through a cell like that. Im guessing the weather must have developed before the radar sweep could tell them. You might be surprised at what some pilots will do. In any case, his dispatcher should have ordered him away from that weather. You vastly over st...

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by barney captain
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bizarre landing by this UA DC-10
Replies: 39
Views: 10650

Re: Bizarre landing by this UA DC-10

Yes, we do know where the runway starts, based on the hotels in the background. Both videos were taken from near the same area. It's clearly 25L or maybe 25R, although 25L is more common for landings. It looks like the cameras were slightly west of the threshold. 25L is nearly 11,100 ft. long, unle...

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by barney captain
Wed May 30, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1000th 737 for Southwest
Replies: 9
Views: 3558

Re: 1000th 737 for Southwest

1000 737s for one airline is all well and good, but is it fair to say that Southwest have held the 737 programme hostage at various points, which is one of the reasons why Boeing are in the situation they are in now, with no replacement in sight for the foreseeable while Airbus walks away with seve...

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by barney captain
Wed May 23, 2018 2:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31
Replies: 263
Views: 22794

Re: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31

Hahahahahahahaha, that should save a lot of bandwidth. (Sadly it won't . . . :banghead:)


No kidding! Sadly, the intended audience isn't listening - as evidenced by the subsequent post.

I will be curious to see how the PAE schedule pans out.

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by barney captain
Mon May 21, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31
Replies: 263
Views: 22794

Re: WN's Upcoming Winter Schedule Release on 5/31

I really hope to see the HI stuff! waited a long time to see what they plan to do, even though I'm not flying on them. The AvGeek in me can't wait. I'd say SAN/OAK-HNL/OGG to SJC/SMF-HNL to start off. If I had to guess, it will be a stand alone announcement and not part of a schedule extension. The...

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by barney captain
Sun May 20, 2018 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest may take 500 MAX 7
Replies: 83
Views: 23477

Re: Southwest may take 500 MAX 7

texl1649 wrote:
Leeham has been saying for about a year they’d go for mainly max8. I don’t think Boeing cares, but I’m sure their unions do. The US rule is a flight attendant for each 50 pax. SWA has built their model around three.


You realize all of the 800's and MAX's have four FA's - yes?

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by barney captain
Sun May 20, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest may take 500 MAX 7
Replies: 83
Views: 23477

Re: Southwest may take 500 MAX 7

WNs boarding system allows for 180 seats max. 60 A, 60 B and 60 C. The 7M10 would have far more than 180 seats. Probably closer to 215 as an arbitrary number. So would WN add a D boarding group in that case? Based on southwest current pitch & layout the 737-10 would have 205 seats without the 3...

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by barney captain
Sun May 20, 2018 9:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest may take 500 MAX 7
Replies: 83
Views: 23477

Re: Southwest may take 500 MAX 7

Southwest looks at all aircraft, including the Bombardier CSeries—but he has no interest in anything but the 737 “as long as I am CEO.” That sentence is not logically consistent. Why bother looking at other aircraft when you have already decided you won't buy them. To try to force Boeing's hand in ...

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by barney captain
Sat May 19, 2018 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CU972 operated by Global Air down near HAV
Replies: 453
Views: 71172

Re: 737 down near HAV

FlyingElvii wrote:
DUSdude wrote:
The picture shows hard right rudder deflection and the crash location is way off to the right when taking off to the northeast. Correlation?

Impossible Turn after engine failure???


The "Impossible Turn" relates solely to single engine aircraft.

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by barney captain
Thu May 17, 2018 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 339
Views: 35461

Re: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018

Flights to Europe would likely be launched through code-sharing agreements with other airline carriers, he said. To do that, "we need foreign currency, foreign language, then there are other technologies that will likely need to support connecting with other airlines," Kelly said, "b...

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by barney captain
Tue May 15, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cockpit location
Replies: 25
Views: 3416

Re: Cockpit location

Wasn't that the original concept for the 747? Move the cockpit up and out of the way, to allow for unobstructed cargo loading.

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by barney captain
Sun May 13, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Asiana Airlines A333 knocks tail off Turkish Airlines A321 at IST
Replies: 111
Views: 23385

Re: Asiana Airlines A333 knocks tail off Turkish Airlines A321 at IST

How does something like this happen? Unreal. It happens because pilots get complacent and just look straight ahead, forgetting to watch side to side for their wing clearance. It happens WAY to often around the world. :banghead: In many large aircraft, you can't even see the wings from the cockpit -...

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by barney captain
Sat May 12, 2018 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian
Replies: 327
Views: 47828

Re: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian

This article confirms that it's in consideration by NAS - I agree, this could be the end for them. IAG shareholders proposes joint Norwegian bid with Ryanair 11 May 2018 Several UK shareholders of International Airlines Group (IAG) have proposed that the airline group work with Ireland's Ryanair on ...

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by barney captain
Sat May 12, 2018 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are Southwest’s Flights always so bumpy?
Replies: 92
Views: 13638

Re: Why are Southwest’s Flights always so bumpy?

One time when driving past LAX I saw a WN jet take off and make a right turn before the ocean, never seen that happen before. The weather was perfect and it was in the middle of the afternoon IIRC. It makes sense with their quickturn history and mentality that WN is going to take every shortcut pos...

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by barney captain
Fri May 11, 2018 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are Southwest’s Flights always so bumpy?
Replies: 92
Views: 13638

Re: Why are Southwest’s Flights always so bumpy?

but aren't they paid per flight, and not per hour? So time flying around convective weather to avoid bumps and potentially have a late arrival vs plowing through with some moderate bumps with an on time or early arrival is preferable to most that he's worked with. Just like every other airline, we ...

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by barney captain
Thu May 10, 2018 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1st Aircraft in Lufthansa updated Livery. D-ABVM (B744)
Replies: 92
Views: 17826

Re: 1st Aircraft in Lufthansa updated Livery. D-ABVM (B744)

I can't get past it - even more so with the lighter color.

Image

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by barney captain
Wed May 09, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are Southwest’s Flights always so bumpy?
Replies: 92
Views: 13638

Re: Why are Southwest’s Flights always so bumpy?

We use WSI as well as Jeppesen charts/wx. The WSI app has tons of real time reports and PIREPS to avoid bad areas.

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by barney captain
Tue May 08, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will WN begin to retire the 73G?
Replies: 46
Views: 4601

Re: When will WN begin to retire the 73G?

The best way I can tell an older 700 versus a new 700 is the cockpit eyebrow window plugs. That's about it afaik Also the cockpit vortex generators which started appearing in 2005. Of course the easiest way is simply the tail number - but with the latest numbering system, that has gotten less clear.

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by barney captain
Tue May 08, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will WN begin to retire the 73G?
Replies: 46
Views: 4601

Re: When will WN begin to retire the 73G?

I bet 99% of people here including myself cant tell the difference between a 90s build 73G and a newer 73G that have identical interiors and paint jobs. Couple ways: 1. Around 2011 they introduced the 7BE engine. If it has the longer core duct, it's likely older: http://www.b737.org.uk/powerplant.h...

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by barney captain
Mon May 07, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's the story behind N96SW's Canyon Blue livery?
Replies: 9
Views: 2664

Re: What's the story behind N96SW's Canyon Blue livery?

In this thread: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1364047&start=100 Someone claimed that only one 737-200 from Southwest's fleet was painted blue and that someone got in TROUBLE for it. Does anyone know the full story? Urban myth - it wasn't a mistake at all, it was due for...

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by barney captain
Mon May 07, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's the story behind N96SW's Canyon Blue livery?
Replies: 9
Views: 2664

Re: What's the story behind N96SW's Canyon Blue livery?

In this thread: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1364047&start=100 Someone claimed that only one 737-200 from Southwest's fleet was painted blue and that someone got in TROUBLE for it. Does anyone know the full story? Urban myth - it wasn't a mistake at all, it was due for...

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by barney captain
Sat May 05, 2018 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii
Replies: 452
Views: 57357

Re: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii

All right I've generally read all 9 pages on the topic. My question hasn't appeared as I see it yet. I will now emphasize that my question can apply to any airline that uses twin engines so here goes. I am just seeking from an informational standpoint the time a twin-engine can maintain one of thes...

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by barney captain
Sat May 05, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii
Replies: 452
Views: 57357

Re: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii

I expect the schedule for this first round to be very similar to Alaska's. Alaska does red-eyes from Hawaii, but not very many. As do I. 7-8 AMish departures from the west coast arriving in Hawaii at mid day and then turning around back to the CONUS arriving at 9-10PM and RONing. I get that people ...

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by barney captain
Tue May 01, 2018 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

In the 737NG for instance because of the lack of redundancy depth vs the 767... they were required to continuously run the APU all the way for an extra generator... Just for accuracy, that requirement isn't a given. Many operators have proven APU start reliability enough to no longer require it to ...

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by barney captain
Tue May 01, 2018 1:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

BC had a full tank of fuel because airlines that forego customer flights are given up too a full load of fuel, depending on the specifics of their contract.


Great info - thanks!

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by barney captain
Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

You meant PAE to GIG... No, I meant GEG - although Rio is more appealing. It was a new delivery that came from Boeing with full fuel - for a 38 minute flight to the paint shop in GEG. It was to be the first Heart One livery, although it was still green for this flight. You got my curiosity piqued. ...

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by barney captain
Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

The 737NG and -8MAX hold around 46,000 lbs of fuel so there not a lot of room left over for XTRA fuel. Which equates to roughly 10+ hours of fuel. I'd wager tank capacity is never an issue - ATOG is. There's likely always room for more fuel, but some folks and/or their bags are getting left behind....

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by barney captain
Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

The 737NG and -8MAX hold around 46,000 lbs of fuel so there not a lot of room left over for XTRA fuel. ..... I've only seen full tanks in an NG one time, and that was on a new delivery ferry flight from PAE to GEG. You meant PAE to GIG... No, I meant GEG - although Rio is more appealing. It was a n...

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by barney captain
Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

The 737NG and -8MAX hold around 46,000 lbs of fuel so there not a lot of room left over for XTRA fuel. Which equates to roughly 10+ hours of fuel. I'd wager tank capacity is never an issue - ATOG is. There's likely always room for more fuel, but some folks and/or their bags are getting left behind....

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by barney captain
Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7
Replies: 257
Views: 26811

Re: Flying 2000 miles over open water in twins powered by CFM56-7

Sooner787 wrote:
What is the ETOPS number required for US west coast- Hawaii flight? 180 240?


180 is what is required.

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by barney captain
Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Family Suing AA Over Death of Passenger
Replies: 256
Views: 18235

Re: Family Suing AA Over Death of Passenger

Once and for all, to those who think that the jetbridge is a risk point, remember to call for a ladder truck and have it ready on the tarmac. A ladder truck can arrive to the scenes very quickly, I even suggest to have it as a standard procedure as docking a bridge takes forever. A ladder truck can...

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