by 4holer
Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:03 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: What will happen to NASA's SOFIA?
Replies: 14
Views: 5297

Re: What will happen to NASA's SOFIA?

ssteve wrote:
The predecessor Kuiper Airborne Observatory C-141A is still at Moffett Field. So SOFIA may simply sit if there's no other positive disposition for it.


Just joined it at Moffett.

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by 4holer
Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:44 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: SOFIA 747SP last flight?
Replies: 9
Views: 3963

SOFIA 747SP last flight?

https://www.flightradar24.com/NASA747/2dd77f1b

Kinda looks like a bit of a joyride.

One step closer to extinction.

(I saw that the last L1011 flew just yesterday too!)
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Looks to be the last flight of another 747SP.

https://www.flightradar24.com/NASA747/2dd77f1b

Kinda looks like a bit of a joyride.

One step closer to extinction.

(I saw that the last L1011 flew just yesterday too!)

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by 4holer
Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 546
Views: 104024

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2022

Question becomes, what is Plan B for them? Ultimately the Coyotes want to be in some sort of entertainment district but the only large enough open land I see nearby that doesn't interfere with airport operations is at Van Buren & Priest (the massive parking lot for Phoenix Municipal) which is o...

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by 4holer
Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 492
Views: 72886

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

KLMatSJC wrote:
cathay747 wrote:
it's still a BORING drive!

Need to make a stop in Quartzite and poke around the airport and the stored aircraft there. But otherwise, a terribly boring drive.


Airport? I didn't know they had one!

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by 4holer
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 492
Views: 72886

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

In town for the Arabian Horse Show. Makes sense. Charter? VIP? Cargo (transporting horses)? AFAIK it was for VIP, don't know if there was any animal transport involved. Interestingly however, according to the visitingphx website, there was a Qatar Air Force C-17 here a few days later, which I'm sur...

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by 4holer
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 492
Views: 72886

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

So that 727 that diverted to PHX from MZJ-MCI a while back... I believe it is the same jet that used to live on the Cutter ramp some time ago. I see it made another attempt to fly to MCI, but diverted back to PHX (I hope). I say I hope because Flightaware has it breaking off the approach and flying ...

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by 4holer
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 492
Views: 72886

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

All well and good, but the fact is that Phoenix is actually closer to the Canyon than Las Vegas. A quick Google maps check shows Vegas to the canyon at 279 miles taking 4:24 and PHX is 229 miles at 3:35 as I type this during morning rush hour. So its even a shorter drive if you detour thru Sedona. ...

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by 4holer
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 492
Views: 72886

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2020

Hi guys, new user here! I wanted to chime in on the Asia situation. Phoenix got screwed when it comes to location lottery. We are wedged between two other AA hubs DFW and LAX. Another problem is the Grand Canyon. If I were a tourist from outside the U.S. I'd rather fly into Vegas due to the GC bein...

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by 4holer
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

AN-124 inbound to IWA from MCO this morning!

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by 4holer
Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

AN-124 inbound, due around 11:30AM.

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by 4holer
Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Don’t US regulations require international pax to clear C&I at the first landing - whether diversion or not? I didn’t know a gas and go was even allowed. If that’s all that happened (no connections) then I wonder why QF7 backtracked 750 miles from Texas to PHX. Why not just go to larger airport...

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by 4holer
Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why so few international major carriers to Philadelphia?
Replies: 104
Views: 17860

Re: Why so few international major carriers to Philadelphia?

DarthLobster wrote:
Ever been to Philly? That should answer your question.


There ya go.

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by 4holer
Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

QF7 about to land on a diversion from DFW because of weather. So I'm outside working in the yard. And I hear an airplane sound that is... Unusual. I look up and there is no mistaking what it is and that there was a diversion. I'm in Gilbert and it flew almost right overhead on its way out. It sure ...

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by 4holer
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Getting ready for fire season? Out for a walk at about 9am and the DC-10 fire tanker flew over me while landing at IWA. Apparently came in from ABQ. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/T912/history/20190401/1513Z/KABQ/KIWA We were flying to Tucson on Saturday and getting close to Pinal I said "...

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by 4holer
Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

Getting ready for fire season? Out for a walk at about 9am and the DC-10 fire tanker flew over me while landing at IWA. Apparently came in from ABQ. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/T912/history/20190401/1513Z/KABQ/KIWA We were flying to Tucson on Saturday and getting close to Pinal I said "...

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by 4holer
Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

910A wrote:
Any rumors which airline is providing the lift for the Mariners and A's to Japan, I would assume tomorrow.


Well FR24 currently shows 2 Atlas 744s inbound to PHX from IAH, so that'd be my guess...

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by 4holer
Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 805
Views: 144241

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2019

It's actually an Intergovernmental Agreement between the Cities of Tempe and Phoenix, and yes, it goes forever. https://www.tempe.gov/home/showdocument?id=1337 Departures are hindered on the west side by the 2017 court ruling that forced the FAA to quit the RNAV procedures. I do not speak legalese,...

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by 4holer
Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1923
Views: 479727

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Folks... There is a HUGE difference between an "accusation" and "suggesting a possibility". There is also a difference between saying a pilot intentionally crashing "IS" the cause and "COULD BE" the cause. At this moment, the list of things that "could be...

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by 4holer
Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1923
Views: 479727

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Why would he just say "OK" if they were experiencing major issues? That seems odd to me.

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by 4holer
Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 116017

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

I won't miss T2. T2 is every frequent flyers' dream terminal. When I lived in PHX, I could pull into the parking garage and make it into my gate in ten minutes (assuming it wasn't the 6am rush, in which case it would take a few extra minutes). It's a convenient as it gets. Yes, it lacks the ameniti...

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by 4holer
Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B-747SP - Was it economically viable for their operators?
Replies: 85
Views: 15657

Re: B-747SP - Was it economically viable for their operators?

Looks like the NASA SOFIA SP is getting ready to fly from Palmdale to Travis right now!

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by 4holer
Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help me understand if it Drone or No Drone ? 6-28-18 flight WIG537
Replies: 5
Views: 1383

Re: Help me understand if it Drone or No Drone ? 6-28-18 flight WIG537

Earlier today they had a balloon at 28,000 feet going at 280 MPH over the south, so....

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by 4holer
Tue May 22, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 116017

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

I should ask which direction the flow is usually at that time? I know when I've spotted in the early afternoon it's usually from the east but not sure what time it flips. Not sure of flow, but more direct routing moved the arrival ahead a bit to 11:53. I'm sure you saw that but... I'm at work and w...

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by 4holer
Tue May 22, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 116017

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

Not too often, maybe the first and definitely the last time, we see a 727 inbound nonstop from Hawaii... https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MGE900 What's interesting (also) is that it goes HNL-PHX-KGM-MCI today. I may have to drive to PHX to see it stop by. I should ask which direction the flow is...

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by 4holer
Tue May 22, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 116017

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MGE900
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Not too often, maybe the first and definitely the last time, we see a 727 inbound nonstop from Hawaii...
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MGE900

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by 4holer
Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1124
Views: 116017

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2018

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA817
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So what's NASA's DC8 doing repeatedly buzzing Sky Harbor today, besides making real cool contrails and no doubt getting the conspiracy theory folk all worked up. Are they testing the airport's navigation equipment?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA817

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by 4holer
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL's final 744 in its final resting place today
Replies: 42
Views: 12218

Re: DL's final 744 in its final resting place today

http://www.azfamily.com/story/37184460/ ... start=true
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Video on a PHX news station...
http://www.azfamily.com/story/37184460/ ... start=true

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by 4holer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 747-400 Enroute now LAX-Marana
Replies: 15
Views: 3381

Re: DL 747-400 Enroute now LAX-Marana

https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL8905/ff2dc37
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This is in the air also...
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL8905/ff2dc37

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by 4holer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 747-400 Enroute now LAX-Marana
Replies: 15
Views: 3381

Re: DL 747-400 Enroute now LAX-Marana

Did a flyby first. Nice...

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by 4holer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 747-400 Enroute now LAX-Marana
Replies: 15
Views: 3381

Re: DL 747-400 Enroute now LAX-Marana

Just came in from trying to catch its contrail to the west. (Nope. One big cloud out that way...)

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by 4holer
Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread 2017

Number 3 engine suffered a conpression stall and associated damage. Lots of loud banging and streaks of flame observed just after rotation. Interesting. I know the remaining 3 engines were making a whole lotta noise as it flew over. Didn't get outside to see as it was overhead since I checked FR24 ...

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by 4holer
Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread 2017

Surprised no one has said anything about the FAA and Class-Action suit settlement about the flight routes. Thought it says it will take a few more months to resolve, do they simply go back to the existing routes and cut the "Grand Avenue" departure routes? I enjoyed these departures mysel...

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by 4holer
Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread 2017

Any insiders know the reason for the Terminal 4 evacuation?

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by 4holer
Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Aviation Thread 2017

Saw a United 789 flying in yesterday evening. FR24 told me it was in from LAX. I'm guessing it was the Dodgers charter? I was not aware they were using a new Dreamliner as a sports charter.
Unless my assumption is incorrect?

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by 4holer
Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 NFL Charters (Airlines/Flight Numbers)
Replies: 147
Views: 32345

Re: 2017 NFL Charters (Airlines/Flight Numbers)

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8614
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That Atlas 747 currently enroute to PHX to take the team to Atlanta.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8614

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by 4holer
Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 NFL Charters (Airlines/Flight Numbers)
Replies: 147
Views: 32345

Re: 2017 NFL Charters (Airlines/Flight Numbers)

That makes sense. Atlas is flying the Cardinals and Jags.. And there you go. Omni can do the Ravens in a 767-300 or even a 777. Atlas can do the Cardinals and Jags in a 767-300 or (as they just did with the Jags) one of 3 747-400 pax birds they have available for charter. It appears that for both t...

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by 4holer
Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Condor adds Phoenix - summer 2018
Replies: 39
Views: 5968

Re: Condor adds Phoenix - summer 2018

Yeah, after a flight from FRA I want a 4 to 4.5 hour drive to the Grand Canyon. I hate to be Mr. Obvious, but you do realize that since there is no major international airport at The Grand Canyon, that every European tourist going there is going to have a significant drive, right? And yes, above an...

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by 4holer
Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

I see online that the BA 744 has pushed back from the gate on the hottest day of the year and local news (Channel 12) says that the Sky Harbor temperature is 119.
So, Any weight restrictions today?

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by 4holer
Thu May 11, 2017 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L1011-100 N910TE is getting closer to it's ferry flight to Kansas City
Replies: 56
Views: 21209

Re: L1011-100 N910TE is getting closer to it's ferry flight to Kansas City

I've seen nothing since the update at t he link in reply #13 above.

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by 4holer
Mon May 08, 2017 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

Is today the first day of the second BA 747? I see one inbound over New Mexico.

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by 4holer
Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Future for the Arizona Coyotes?
Replies: 18
Views: 1550

Re: Future for the Arizona Coyotes?

Fact: From Gila River Arena in Glendale, it is a shorter drive to Wickenburg than it is to San Tan Village in Gilbert. And that doesn't take into account the cross city rush hour traffic to be dealt with on game nights. No thanks. I've never seen why the old drive in theater location on the rez by t...

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by 4holer
Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

I wonder if the new ownership of the website is scrambling to register the domain name escalators.net?

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by 4holer
Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Phoenix Aviation Thread - 2017
Replies: 709
Views: 83716

Re: Phoenix Arizona Aviation Thread Part 18

The visitingphx site says that the old white 727 has flown to MZJ. Sad to see it go, but glad it got to have one last flight. I'd been afraid it would be scrapped on site like the old Honeywell B720.

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by 4holer
Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Smoking Ban, when was it implemented?
Replies: 70
Views: 15767

Re: Smoking Ban, when was it implemented?

My wife and I recently flew PIT-PHX and at one point in the flight, smelled that stank. I assumed it was the in the cockpit by the pilot or other crew lighting up and that it was allowed there, but I may be wrong. The concept of the smoking section was indeed absurd, but did provide one great gag in...

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by 4holer
Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: L1011-100 N910TE is getting closer to it's ferry flight to Kansas City
Replies: 56
Views: 21209

Re: L1011-100 N910TE is getting closer to it's ferry flight to Kansas City

It's now months later and the silence from this project does not fill one with confidence. Is there anything new at all?

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by 4holer
Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:37 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why do jets leave a white trail in the sky?
Replies: 24
Views: 5067

Re: Why do jets leave a white trail in the sky?

That's what The Gummint WANTS you to think! Wake up sheeple!!
/sarc

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by 4holer
Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Orbital L-1011 flying cross country right now
Replies: 4
Views: 1371

Re: Orbital L-1011 flying cross country right now

http://blog.tristar500.net/2016/11/star ... -next.html
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tomaheath wrote:
Where's it off to?


http://blog.tristar500.net/2016/11/star ... -next.html

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by 4holer
Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Orbital L-1011 flying cross country right now
Replies: 4
Views: 1371

Orbital L-1011 flying cross country right now

In Civil AV as this is the last flying example of a much loved civil airliner. I missed seeing it fly over AZ today, but points east on the way to Cape Canaveral have a probable final chance to see an airborne L-1011 today. https://www.flightradar24.com/N140SC/bc82877 http://flightaware.com/live/fli...

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