Did I miss something, LX282/283 to JNB has been upgraded to 77W, at least for the winter timetable.
Jump to postJust saw SWISS HB-JHM landing in ZRH, coming from CHR (Chatearoux in France) and having spent a bit more than 2 weeks there. According to their webseit, Satys Aerospace is doing cabin interiors and has a paint shop there. Do you think this 333 has received a new cabin? Or just light maintenance alo...
Jump to postI hope the delay will be used wisely to either make adjustments to the F Cabin by getting rid of this 1.5 seat option in the middle and at least for LX continue with 2 rows of F at least in most planes.
Jump to postApparently, the 4th A380 will join in October to open LAX and India routes. The two final A380 will join in 2024 completing the fleet of 6 --- 5 active and 1 backup. Thus summer, they are running 2 active, 1 backup. What a terrible ratio! You can really see what margins LH must earn on these extra ...
Jump to postFrom a logistics and cost perspective it will be more efficient to have one fleet with the the same engine instead of 2x5 planes with different ones.
Jump to postI am also hoping for LX to announce for the A333s to leave the fleet between 2025-2026 and instead increase it's initial A359 order. Not to mention that the 77W of LX will get the new LH Group Alegris cabin full installed by 2026.
Jump to postWell, let’s see what the official announcement will disclose, for sure it’s a step forward in many aspects if the 359’s will be added to the fleet. Looking forward to work with them. Swiss confirms on social media they're getting A350 from 2025, as an A340 replacement. No press release yet, but I d...
Jump to postSWISS need to act very fast when it comes to their A333 cabins. The cabins are absolutely at the end of the life cycle. Hence, they need to decide if they will refurbish them in order to keep them flying until approx 2029 / 20230 or get them replaced by 2025 the latest with A359's. Concerning the 77...
Jump to postSWISS will also need to announce soon if they will refurbish the A333's which is at the end of it's lifecylce or replace them with the A350's during 2025/26, meaning they would leave the fleet earlier than original anticipated.
Jump to postI wonder if this is the beginning of the replacement phase for the 330s as well? They are not that old, having been delivered between 2009 and 2012 but the 343s began to leave the fleet around 12 years since the first was delivered, in 2003, as the 77W arrived. Eventually the A330's will be replace...
Jump to postAnother 333 has been pulled out of storage in AMM after a long time. HB-JHC is ready in ZRH and will be deployed in the network as from today onwards. That means only 3 stored 330’s remain in AMM. We might also see more than 1 A343 to move to WK, my feeling is with the anouncement of ZRH-YUL to be ...
Jump to postAny intel on if the A330's will get cabin refresh (to match the 343)? What also seems not finalized yet is the actual plan for the A333 in the LX Fleet. Once scenario is that the A333's in the LX fleet will be transfered to other LH Group airlines and LX will replace the entire A333 fleet sooner th...
Jump to post[/quote] Agree with all of this. LH group is not as slot constrained across its hubs as say IAG is at LHR, and has always pursued a frequency approach over capacity (Long-haul or Short-haul) spread across all its hubs for connectivity purposes. The other airline to look at this with is LY. It is not...
Jump to postLH orders 7 more 787-9s and has accelerated delivery of aircraft. https://www.lufthansagroup.com/en/newsroom/releases/lufthansa-group-purchases-further-state-of-the-art-long-haul-aircraft.html Maybe there is some reserve for OS? Who knows. Lufthansa said that they don't intend on renewing OS' fleet...
Jump to postAs far as I remember, LH turned a former loss-making route to a quite profitable one just by switching to shorthaul equipment saving millions on fuel, crew costs, fees, maintenance. Yes, it was indeed a very bloody period and the market needed time to accept it, but it turned out to be a wise decis...
Jump to postYou could also move the 77W's from LX to LH as these can be flown by the same pilot corps would then be the perfect mix in addition to the 77X. In turn LX will receive new A350-1000 and A359's to replace A343's and add lost capacity of the 5 A333's that have been withdrawn from the fleet permanently.
Jump to postIsrael still wants quarantine until a PCR test on arrival gives a negative result for non-citizens. Doing a PCR test 48 hours before travel is not deemed to be sufficient. This will significantly decrease demand for travel to Israel compared to other countries. Wait until that stops before making a...
Jump to postIn the past one of the most important routes for SWISS and also LH was their flights to TLV at least until few weeks ago LX operated most flights with long haul equipment before the pandemic both it's daily flights with some exceptions of last minute equipment downgrade due to operational reasons. A...
Jump to postLX19 EWR-ZRH got canceled yesterday... Interestingly HB-JMA is involved, which came back just the day before from maintenance in AMM.... any possible connection here....? I am generally not a fan of LX's maintenance being done in AMM anyway.... why, what's wrong with Joramco? Since SWISS started to...
Jump to postHow come EK is not using anymore Gate E67 since quite some time for it's A380 at ZRH, the only gate featuring a Jetbridge for the upper deck?
Jump to postI can't see any new widebody destinations from LX until its WB replacement is worked out. Whether LH decides to allocate some of its 789 order to LX, or as mentioned above a 359 is made for allocation to LX. Do not see LX shifting capacity from another long haul route to a destination already serve...
Jump to postEverything looks pretty pro A350 at the moment imo. The A350 is too big for VIE and leads me to the 787 for OS. And LH hasn't that many 787 ordered and it's confirmed that there's a considerable proportion going to FRA. Although the 787 would be a good successor for all the a330 with the huge advan...
Jump to postDoes anyone know what is planned for the Edelweiss long haul? The 340s are flying at the limit and more routes are to be added in the summer. Should LX continue to help out? AS LH group wants to get rid of it's A340's by around 2025 we will probably also see WK replace it's long haul fleet by then....
Jump to postFor SWISS to receive the A359 as replacement of the A343 by 2025, this seems to be a given. Eventually we would see the A359 to replace the A333 fleet of LX by around 2030. In the longer term future when it comes to replace the 77W's LX could replace these with the A35X or a combination of both A359...
Jump to post5 are expected to leave the fleet Is it already known which 5 these will be? To be honest, I‘m quite positive the previous decision regarding early phase-out of A330s is or will be reviewed. It all depends when the US will open the borders for vaccinated travellers from Europe. Demand will then sur...
Jump to postAs it looks currently the 77W's would mostly be replaced by the 77X of which all are intended to receive F, likely 6 per aircraft. For the A359's and Dreamliners no F is intended to be installed on any of the frames as per current status.
Jump to postNot sure if it's a premier or not, but I heard a loud aircraft sound last night over our lake community that I can't recall have heard before. When checking I saw it was LX288 to JNB taking off from Runway 16 at ZRH and performing the Straight out departure towards the south, so looks like if there ...
Jump to postRegarding the premium economy product being introduced, is there a reason they didn't do that with the A340 mods? Seems like a lot of money to spend for a temporary mod just to re-modify it a short time later. It is not yet clear if all Aircraft will get the reduction from 8 to 4 First Class seats....
Jump to postinterestingly Swiss has just announced, they are reducing their long-haul airbus fleet by 5 aircraft. Source: https://www.aerotelegraph.com/swiss-kuerzt-langstreckenflotte-um-fuenf-airbus-jets (in german) this does point towards the A340s leaving the fleet, however, I find this quite odd as at the ...
Jump to postHonestly I expected more cuts. Seems LX is still to some extent optimistic. Edelweiss is the leisure arm of LX, so I don't exect any cuts there, as this is the traffic most likely to return. with 9 A340s (LX and WK) I think that indeed A330 will be eliminated. Or maybe they will just beredistribute...
Jump to postI heard some rumor that LX is considering to get rid of it's B77W's given that the capacity will be to large for their needs over the comming years. Assuming this would be the case, I could see the 12 frames to move to LH as a replacement for the A346/B744 and partial substitute of the B779 of which...
Jump to postDifferent idea - Lufthansa will be the launch customer of the new middle of the market plane ? A321LR seems not to be sufficient for them rangewise from MUC and FRA I don't think the A321LR makes sense for the LH group as for the routes requiring larger range such as destinations like HKG, Japan or...
Jump to postJust in time for the new year LX received their 3rd A320 NEO today, HB-JDC.
I also noticed that the restriction for the A220's not to fly higher than 28'000 Feet was lifted recently, looks like they could fix the issues with the engines.
Also for the Long Haul fleet, they could get rid of the A333 fleet by retiring / having part of them repositioned to OS (Although OS seems more likely the candiadate to receive the B 789's on order). As of 2024 LX could start to receive deliveries of A350's that are part of the LH group order as in...
Jump to postAgree totally! LX is here for the long run. SWISS has still quite a few aircraft on order to replace most of it's aging A32S fleet. Hence, through early retirements now timed with the new deliveries they can reduce their capacity accordingly now and by 2024 be back to almost the size they were befo...
Jump to postSwiss is getting the A350, not the 787. The 40 aircraft ordered are intended for SWISS and Austrian, and the A350 is too much airplane for the Vienna hub. Internally at SWISS, it's confirmed that a new business class and reduced first class (4 seats) is on the way. The F models being worked on don'...
Jump to postSwiss CEO Thomas Klühr will step down at the end of the year. https://swiss.newsmarket.com/english/press-releases/thomas-kluehr-to-step-down-as-swiss-ceo-at-the-end-of-2020/s/ef47c7f1-e7eb-4aa0-ad12-57693b2d1297 Not so great news, let's hope that he will be replaced by a current LX management membe...
Jump to postWhereas I haven't heard of the 330's not coming back, personally I do see this type as the first ones out. The 343's have similar capacity and longer range. With fuelprices being low, the 340's aren't bad at all. The 330's are range-restricted and in LX-cofig noseheavy making them difficult to trim...
Jump to postThe vast majority of Swiss' A333 are now sitting in AMM (10 if I'm correct). I wonder why Swiss didn't keep more A333 flying instead of 77Ws since the passenger capacity is not really need at the moment. If only for Cargo the A333 also have quite some space in the belly, does this justify flying mo...
Jump to postThis said, given the short flying time (just 3 hours) between DXB and TLV it doesn’t really make sense to operate an A380 on this route. It is much more likely that EK would prefer to operate multiple frequencies of smaller metal on the route. I think it's as always an economical question. If there...
Jump to postIt is unclear at the moment. It was previously speculated that part of the 787s are going to LX as replacements for the A330's there was no plan to refresh the LX A330 cabins which are getting old and tired but nothing is confirmed and LH Group fleet plans have changed. OS is the least profitable a...
Jump to postWill LX still have plans to fly to IAD? According to the Dulles Airport website, operations begin on April 1, 2021 https://www.flydulles.com/iad/dulles-international-returning-airlines#swiss%7C Once travel restrictions are lifted and demand will require it to support 2 daily flights (one by UA) LX ...
Jump to postAt this stage eairlines are only thinking on how to reduce costs, hence with no clear indications on how demand will be developing over the next years do not expect any recruitments to happen within nect 12-24 months.
Jump to postOS didn't manage to be very profitable even during the last years considered as better years in Aviation. Eventually they will need to have a even slimmer structure which will be achieved with the 20% or more reduction compared to pre COVID-19 and be considered as a boutique, Premium carrier within ...
Jump to postThe first A320CEO will be put to action as per tomorrow, which seems to be HB-IJS. Which is what I expected. The 320‘s will return to service rather sooner than later The reason somethimes the A32S or even A330 / A340 are used in the european network at this stage is more due to crew training reaso...
Jump to postI would not be surprised if it would take a long time before they get reactivated. I doubt that they will ever return Agreed. It probably makes more sense to replace with the new aircraft that will arrive, probably later than originally planned but giving the circumstances that would make more sens...
Jump to postSupposedly the frames are flown for Maintenance works to AMM, all the Airbus fleet except A220's) from LX are getting their maintenance done in AMM since a couple of years. Looks like they took the opportunity to fly down a few jets at once together with an aircraft to pick up to crew, the only NEO ...
Jump to postAny chance whatsoever of OS getting any relatively new widebodies (i.e., built since 2010)? Some of the 20 Boeing 787 LH ordered are likely to end up with OS, though the distribution within LH group hasn't been decided on yet. B787 order will distribute between LH, OS and LX It was not yet decided ...
Jump to postFor SWISS the jewel in the LH Group, they phased out already the remaining 2 A319's and as mentioned will defer orders for new A320/21 NEO's, they received one and might still receive 2 or so this year given production already started but then maybe the remaining fleet will only be delivered starti...
Jump to postWill the LH group return to JFK or consolidate to EWR? The LH group will return to JFK because most passengers begin or end their journey there and are not connecting to other flights. However once the COVID-19 situation will get under control and allow the start of normal operations again I am sur...
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