I’d wager it’s not Westjet going after Sunwing.
It’s flair.
Just a guess.
Do these jets fall under ETOPS requirements? And can you do single pilot ETOPS? To the best of my knowledge, ETOPS only applies to 121 ops. The rule doesn't apply to private jets. ETOPS applies to 135 as well. The sovereign is the smallest "realistic" Hawaii airplane. Some weird stuff mig...
Jump to postDo these jets fall under ETOPS requirements? And can you do single pilot ETOPS?
Jump to postSad to see the old girl go. My initial line check was on 604 and flew it for almost 15 years. Great handling, capable airplane. Not a flashy jet but imo the most underrated airliner ever built. Did a lot for the airline and brought new markets within reach and it did so incredibly well. Remember bei...
Jump to postAC B767 will be retired but not completely gone yet, may see it from time to time in the air. The B787 is the best in my opinion. Care to explain that? Removing rouge from the fleet was a complicated but smart move by the company. Amongst other reasons removing it eliminated pay protections for pil...
Jump to postRouge will come back. December timeframe with 5 321s. That’s the plan for now subject to change. The FOPS management team will stick around so as to fulfill the requirements to hold an OC
Jump to postAither wrote:So he invested in airlines all operating from the same country... ?
And people think he is a sage...
@Zeke, it seems legit. ~127T DOW with seats installed is what our birds weigh... Thanks Again with the descent, approach, taxiing, landing fees, ground handling fees, another climb out, another cycle on the airframe, extra pilot time. Its gotta be cheaper going non stop. I did a few flight plans fo...
Jump to postActually another on its way right now AC7217 C-FRTU 04/27 Stopped for a coffee and fuel at LAX. I don't get the point of doing YYZ-SYD direct - it's cargo it doesn't care. Why not do this with a tech stop and cut a massive chunk of the fuel bill? Burning 5t of fuel for every 1t of cargo. Where do y...
Jump to postI recently read on a different site, that just before the Onex purchase, Westjet owned 90% of their fleet. Today, that number is now ZERO. All has been sold to leasing companies and leased back. This is very disturbing as that 90% number was achieved through care and discipline. Where did the proce...
Jump to postI would say this announcement serves several purposes. One it is genuine and it’s a major announcement that gets the attention of the government, union, the pilots themselves. Also upper management won’t want to waste a good crisis and they will try to get what they can out of the pilot group and al...
Jump to postdinot wrote:Public does not know the full story of WJ employees. Options are far more open and not as decisive as OP makes them sound. You mention pilots, but forget the remaining almost 5000 other employees that have been affected far sooner than pilots...
They will have 569 remaining. Furloughed will be recalled. Hopefully very quickly.
Jump to postSad day for the profession Westjet laying off 1,700 pilots.
700 as of May 1.
A further 1,000 June 1.
Terrible situation, best of luck to them all.
jimbo737 wrote:So, they’d be US based, named Canada Jetlines, and be permitted to operate transborder, but not operate Canada domestic because of cabotage regulations ?
That’s an even dumber plan than their last one.
415, 219, 339 on the way to KMLB I imagine the EMJ is the crew shuttle.
Jump to postNo mainline flight attendant could be laid off before a rouge one. Mainline and Rouge flight attendants are on the same seniority list although they work separately. There is nothing in the contract to stipulate that no mainline flight attendant can be laid off before a Rouge one. There are several...
Jump to postRouge is not dead. Rouge is grounded because of flight attendant contracts. No mainline flight attendant could be laid off before a rouge one. When the company came up with a number of fas they needed to get to their hands were tied. They were forced to basically axe all rouge flight attendants. The...
Jump to postMore airplanes headed to KRFD for storage as well.
Jump to postThanks. I had heard about the reduced pay/blocking- I thought they were doing a block sharing to avoid layoffs short to mid term. I was wondering how they’d do that with them possibly parking that many airframes. Reduced blocks can only take you so far. Thanks for the info. Good luck to all. Yeah, ...
Jump to postThanks. I had heard about the reduced pay/blocking- I thought they were doing a block sharing to avoid layoffs short to mid term. I was wondering how they’d do that with them possibly parking that many airframes. Reduced blocks can only take you so far.
Thanks for the info. Good luck to all.
Any truth to the rumour that 50 737s are being placed into long term storage? Long term meaning for all intents and purposes, retired?
Heard the same for the 767. Removed as a position for pilots to bid on.
If this is the case how will they avoid pilot layoffs?
If you are talking about planes being parked due to this crises I would predict the following. All EMJ, mainline 767, unconfigured 330. And all 777. Once the repatriation is (mostly)complete they would likely continue a domestic operation. Skeleton transborder, Caribbean, and all but cease European ...
Jump to postWhen will they start operating? It could be possible for them to lease their planes to AC and start operations when the MAX issues are resolved. Could be a nice payday for them. If AC needed the lift so desperately, you think they’d just go to Jetlines or the leasing company that owns these jets di...
Jump to postYou think AC is going to do anything to help a new entrant? These guys are floundering at best, let them drown. You throw them any money whatsoever it could be likened to a lifeline. If the investment community isn’t backing them, why would a competitor provide them anything? These guys are your typ...
Jump to postNot sure if GLA fits the bill for a high density 767 though. Works well enough for Rouge. High density. Cheap airplane. Would not have worked with a mainline 767 where one third of the footprint of the airplane is taken up with lie flat pods. Unless you can fill that 1/3 with high paying fares you’...
Jump to postRealize all the crews will have lost currency by then. Every crew will wind up back in the simulator to undoubtedly go thru the retraining, and of course to get takeoffs and landings done so as to be “current” before hitting the line. From what I hear the MCAS system was only hooked up to one of the...
Jump to postSwoop doesn’t operate Max aircraft. YEG-OAK was a head scratcher from the get go. Someone was staring at dots on a map a little too long. Perhaps from YXX, but not YEG. Swoop added YLW-LAS for the summer months on a Thursday / Sunday rotation. Understood. Was wondering if swoop lift was being used ...
Jump to postWonder if any of this is MAX related? Need the lift elsewhere, poor pre bookings.
Is it permanent or temporary?
Going to be interesting times. I’m hearing it’ll be a couple months. Worst case scenario. 4 months before they’re flying again.
Jump to postwjcandee wrote:AMC has to feel just great that Atlas was training the pilot on a live segment with troops on board. Thrilled, I'm sure. Wouldn't a cargo 767 flight have been a better training platform? no wind. 25 mile visibility. Bent plane.
I would think the Hawaiian flying for AC to the islands will present far greater challenges. Passengers can be rerouted easier thru ACs present networks in the UK. No Rouge base in YVR... As of now they have consolidated several flights into fewer WB. Once in Hawaii it is easy to reach the final de...
Jump to postI would think the Hawaiian flying for AC to the islands will present far greater challenges. Passengers can be rerouted easier thru ACs present networks in the UK. No Rouge base in YVR...
Jump to postAC brought L1011s out of long term storage in the 90s. When they parked the 762, later models were parked in ROS where they were kept in a state which would expedite return to service. 8 tons of fuel in each tank for fuel seals, aircraft was moved every two weeks. Engines dry motored as well. The pe...
Jump to postPilots have nothing to lose. They're integrated. Thankfully, the CRJ/ASA pilots stand with the CRJ/ASA FAs. What good do the pilots do “standing” with the flight attendants? The pilots are under contract no? Saying “we stand with you” is just words. Maybe if there were scabs involved they could do ...
Jump to postInterestingly they're still keeping quiet on the upcoming Rouge 763 fleet replacement. C-FXCA will be 32 years old come 2022 when AC forecasts still no retirements. I presume they are actively negotiating with the Unions but nonetheless, this is a today problem. Reason they’re not talking about 767...
Jump to postSAA suing their employees might be the only way the outfit can turn a profit.
Jump to postIt was too big And look at them now. They operate five 77W's with more seats than the 744 and every AC 777 including the 77L has more seats than the 744 combis. Even the 789's do. Perhaps but it would still be too much metal today, don’t need four engines for a six hour hop to LHR/FRA/CDG, the Asia...
Jump to postAdd to that they were Pratt powered. At time I think only other operator using Pratt’s was Singapore.
They were the biggest white elephants in the sky. The fact they were delivered straight to the desert for storage was a bit ominous.
Interestingly they're still keeping quiet on the upcoming Rouge 763 fleet replacement. C-FXCA will be 32 years old come 2022 when AC forecasts still no retirements. I presume they are actively negotiating with the Unions but nonetheless, this is a today problem. Reason they’re not talking about 767...
Jump to postDylanHarvey wrote:How is the 763 gonna handle UIO’s altitude?
Interesting, delivered on 17th January and scheduled into service on the 20th of February. That makes 34 days of being a hangar queen and a fancy airport ornament. Definitely something wrong with that picture and probably a record of sorts for entry into service.There can be absolutely no compariso...
Jump to postNice green. Go see if you can make any of it.
Not the first time a troubled carrier switched paint jobs before going under. Hope for them it’s more than lipstick on a pig.
Personally I think AC is about to enter a very modest stage. Tinkering here and there but I don’t see a bunch of orders at all. They have set the airline up for a potential economic downturn and are more concerned with weathering that storm and perhaps keeping what they have going strong vice growi...
Jump to postI don't disagree with you here. No doubt Mr Smith was the driving force and visionary for the expansion. CR is a numbers guy and more fiscally conservative from what I can see. Not a bad thing, but I do believe that they will need to place an order for at least a few WB aircraft. They cannot operat...
Jump to postI would say the former is very likely. Used A333s are readily available and will continue to be in 2019 in light of WOW dumping theirs, and other carriers like SQ actively retiring them. The timing is excellent to pick up used widebodies right now, which is coincidentally exactly what AC needs. Cou...
Jump to postAnyone else thinking that they'll be getting more 330ceos off the used market? Or could they be waiting for ye2018 financials to announce taking Dreamliner options. I would say the former is very likely. Used A333s are readily available and will continue to be in 2019 in light of WOW dumping theirs...
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