Hello all, I just read the interesting topic of the possible composition of the long haul fleet of <acronym title="British Airways">BA</acronym> in 2020. This made me decide to start a similar topic about the possible look of the long haul fleet of KLM/Air France. KLM has had some kind of tradition ...
Jump to postLong live the A330!!! The only plane that will remain comfortable because I don't expect them to install a 3-3-3 lay-out....or am I wrong?
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KarelXWB" class="quote" target="_blank">KarelXWB</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i> Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1): By 2019/2020 t...
Jump to postBecause they ordered the 777-200er which met their needs better than the 764. The 77E has more range too. Or they should have chosen the A330-300. But during that time, their relation with Airbus was not that good (NYC crash) and the A330 was not the plane they need (lack of range - by that time).
Jump to postNice! <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/SQ773" class="quote" target="_blank">SQ773</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i> KLM has stated very clearly in Facebook t...
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Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LY777" class="quote" target="_blank">LY777</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>That's good news! That could be a nice 787 route...
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Jump to postSo guys, if LAX really required a main deck area to transport horses, what will KL use for equipment after the retirement of the 74M?
Jump to postLAX is a premium destination, the 77W is far from a premium aircraft (the KLM version).
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/hooverman" class="quote" target="_blank">hooverman</a> (<a href="#73" class="quote">Reply 73</a>):<br/><i>Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 72):Since KLM i...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/76er" class="quote" target="_blank">76er</a> (<a href="#70" class="quote">Reply 70</a>):<br/><i>Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad opens today wit...
Jump to postSorry guys, we can't work this way longer so this has to happen in order to remain competitve. I have around 30 people in my direct surroundings who work for KLM (in various positions) and they live very nice lives. They work pretty short days (usually around 6 or 7 hours a day), they have unbelieva...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/eastern023" class="quote" target="_blank">eastern023</a> (<a href="#31" class="quote">Reply 31</a>):<br/><i>KLM to OneWorld!!!. Would that be co...
Jump to postIt seems to be a great A319/73G replacement but....why does it make a good F100/ARJ replacement? It can carry 20% more passengers....
Anyway, good for OS and good that there will not only be the ERJ serie.
Not going to happen. <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/dennys" class="quote" target="_blank">dennys</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i> That could be The best d...
Jump to postLooking at EZY and <acronym title="Ryanair (Ireland)">FR</acronym> I find it stra <acronym title="Ryanair (Ireland)">FR</acronym> have around 300 planes with 81.4 million passengers EZY have around 202 planes with 60.8 million passengers We clearly see that EZY have a better fleet utilisation. Durin...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/nuckleuz" class="quote" target="_blank">nuckleuz</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>KLM Cityhopper is using remote stands at t...
Jump to postWhen should <acronym title="KLM Royal Dutch Airlines">KL</acronym> return to Ottawa and Halifax? Than I think they will have the largest network in Canada (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calcary, Edmonton, Halifax and Ottawa). Anyway nice to read but....where does the equipment come from? The A332 se...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/macc" class="quote" target="_blank">macc</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>2025 lets talk again in 10 years... </i></font></t...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/B777LRF" class="quote" target="_blank">B777LRF</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>You mean apart from: Air Alsie Wideroe JetTi...
Jump to postSad for the small Danish airline but I seriously doubt if there is any room left for any other airline in the Nordic region along to SAS (along with Blue1), Finnair and Norwegian.
Jump to postHi Phero, a good thread I think because we (AF/KL) could not do if nothing has happened. Couldn't be it a wise idea to implement the <acronym title="Transavia (Netherlands)">HV</acronym> project more slowely? Stop hiring new A32X pilots and stimulating pilots to promote to A332/B772 sooner. Slowely ...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Mortyman" class="quote" target="_blank">Mortyman</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i> Give us <acronym title="Lauda Air (Austri...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/kaitak" class="quote" target="_blank">kaitak</a> (<a href="#16" class="quote">Reply 16</a>):<br/><i>I know there is a book (sadly in German only...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/FlySSC" class="quote" target="_blank">FlySSC</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i><acronym title="KLM Royal Dutch Airlines">KL</...
Jump to postSame as with the 737 <acronym title="Lauda Air (Austria)">NG</acronym> (= MAX a <acronym title="Nanning - Wuxu (NNG / ZGNN), China">NNG</acronym>?), it had 5 or 6 crash over overshoot landings a while ago (I recall 5 or 6 years ago) and the plane constantly broke at the same place. Some whistleblowe...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Pihero" class="quote" target="_blank">Pihero</a> (<a href="#33" class="quote">Reply 33</a>):<br/><i>Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 30): The A320 is no...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Amsterdam" class="quote" target="_blank">Amsterdam</a> (<a href="#27" class="quote">Reply 27</a>):<br/><i>KLM training facilities are not underu...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/phxa340" class="quote" target="_blank">phxa340</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i>Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 11): This has been ...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KarelXWB" class="quote" target="_blank">KarelXWB</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>We had a discussion some six months ago, y...
Jump to postDear all, Out of curiousity I just checked the site of Rekkof and there were implemented some changes. Is has undergone a real facelift. Its name for instance is now called 'Netherlands Aircraft Company'. In my opinion it still looks like a low-risk/low-investment project that can be profitable as t...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/TWA772LR" class="quote" target="_blank">TWA772LR</a> (<a href="#24" class="quote">Reply 24</a>):<br/><i>Am I the only one that foresees <acronym...
Jump to postWould be a great idea. In my opinion, the A320 is more suitable for the <acronym title="KLM Royal Dutch Airlines">KL</acronym> flights as containerised cargo is better for transfer traffic (loading and offloading is much easier) and they are more comfortable too. The A320 is a bit more expensive (la...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/KarelXWB" class="quote" target="_blank">KarelXWB</a> (<a href="#19" class="quote">Reply 19</a>):<br/><i> Quoting anstar (Reply 18): Has this bee...
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Jump to postGood news for <acronym title="Amsterdam - Schiphol (AMS / EHAM), Netherlands">AMS</acronym> to have got a new great airline on its runways! <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/> I wonder when Mr. Eurlings will com...
Jump to postWith a 77W and a 779 under development, I would have done this much earlier. Money spilling project. This is a similar situation with Airbus some years ago with the A340-500/600. Only aviation enthusiasts would have bought it at the end. <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/BreninTW" class="quote" target="_blank">BreninTW</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>Quoting dalca (Reply 3): Also looks like t...
Jump to postMaybe I am cynical but I think the C-series will either continue to postpone its EIS date with further cancellations ahead or the project will become a big flop. Beside <acronym title="Lufthansa (Germany)">LH</acronym> (and Swiss) and <acronym title="Korean Air">KE</acronym>, will there be any major...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/scbriml" class="quote" target="_blank">scbriml</a> (<a href="#62" class="quote">Reply 62</a>):<br/><i>Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 61): the A330 is no...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/phxa340" class="quote" target="_blank">phxa340</a> (<a href="#10" class="quote">Reply 10</a>):<br/><i>Quoting Boeing778X (Reply 8): Hey it's not...
Jump to postI know <acronym title="Transavia (Netherlands)">HV</acronym> is removing the televisions screens underneath the luggage compartments because it will help to save weight (the argument is more logical and that is that more and more people bring their tablets/smartphone that help to save time). I think...
Jump to postStrange that they will replace the planes (ARJ) that were supposed to replace the Fokker 100s (why did the original Swissair get rid of them so quickly in the 90s?) while the F100 still is in service (at Helvetic). As 4 engines 3 longhaul is a pretty old phrase, 4 engines 4 short haul is meant to be...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/starbucks" class="quote" target="_blank">starbucks</a> (<a href="#12" class="quote">Reply 12</a>):<br/><i>Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 6): Except tha...
Jump to postInteresting. I have been in Belgrade last year and in my impression it has a huge tourism potential (friendly people, nice food, cheap prices, nice sightseeing spots....). I really wondered why there were so few tourists though I have my thoughts...... Now you see some investments do work. I wonder ...
Jump to postThis year I notice a clear advantage for Boeing in the order race with Airbus. To me, it seems pretty logical as I see that the product lines of the A320 is sold out until 202X, the A330 gets orders but is not a big seller as it used to be, orders for new A350s are slow (logical when having around 8...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Miami" class="quote" target="_blank">Miami</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>Lufthansa has no plans in selling or retiring it...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DTWPurserBoy" class="quote" target="_blank">DTWPurserBoy</a> (<a href="#32" class="quote">Reply 32</a>):<br/><i>The 767 is hardly obsolete. You ...
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