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Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 8:28 pm

Hi guys.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Could someone pls explain (in detail) the differences between the F-14 & F-15? I'm really curious cos' these are my 2 favourite planes and I don't know the advantages/disadvantages between them.
Thanks in advance! Big grin
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 10:09 pm

-All F-14's have a 2 crew member cockpit
-The F-14 has variable geometry wings
-Different engines (F-15 - F100 by P&W , F-14 - is it the F110 by GE?)
-The F-14 is used by the Navy, The F-15 by the Air Force
-The F-14 was exported to only one country - Iran, The F-15 was exproted to Japan, Israel, and Saudi Arabia
-The F-14 has excellent long range Air-to-Air capabilities, it's not very good at close range combat (lack of power and manouverability)
-The F-15 has good medium and short range air-to-air capabilities, it is better than the F-14 in close combat

Hope it helps
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 10:11 pm

How much in detail?
First of all is there already a difference between the different version of the Eagle: the F-15A and F-15C are mainly air intercept fighters, the F-15B and F-15D are the two-seater training versions. Then there is the F-15E Strike Eagle, a mainly ground attack fighter with two seats.
The Tomcat has as much I can remember no ground attack capabilities (except the gun...). So this is the difference between the F-14 and the F-15E.
The difference between the Tomcat versions (F-14A/B/C/D) is smaller: there are only advanced avionics and cockpits in the newer versions.
Also a difference: a F-15 never starts from an aircraft carrier...

Ask for further information,
and the others: please correct me if I'm wrong (I wrote this without looking in a book or so, that's just what I know)

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 10:20 pm

To Fightingfalcon:

As far as I know, the US Navy equipped some of it's F-14 to use laser guided bombs 3-4 years ago and they were used to destroy targets in Iraq during the Desert Fox campaign.

Everything else looks just fine to me!

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 10:28 pm

>LY744
You can hang bombs on each aircraft which has got hardpoints for weapons.

To all: Did you know that the F-14D Super Tomcats can't use the afterburner for Carrier take-offs?
Their powerplants are so strong that the exhaust deflector (or similar) would be damaged.

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 10:49 pm

Fightingfalcon & LY744:
Thanks a lot for the information. You've been a great help!
Just a quick question-are any of these 2 fighter jets used for escort?
Thanks again.
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 10:56 pm

escort of what? VIP-jets?

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Sun May 06, 2001 11:20 pm

I leave for 2 hours, I have to watch Switzerland-Russia (Hockey-WC).

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Mon May 07, 2001 9:56 am


>LY744
You can hang bombs on each aircraft which has got hardpoints for weapons.


Yes, but to use Laser Guided Bombs you need a laser marker, like the one in the LANTIRN pods.

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Mon May 07, 2001 10:06 am

Also, the F-14 has EXCELLENT short field capabilities... albeit when hooked up to a steam catapult, or hooking the 3rd wire on the back of a carrier.

The Tomcat's primary mission when designed was fleet defense, hence the long-range Phoenix missiles and radar system to accquire and track up to 6 targets. However in the post-Cold War military the plane is having a hard time. The F/A-18 Hornet and the new F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet is a jack of all trades mutli-role fighter/attack aircraft. They have adapted the Tomcat to do some attack missions, but it is an expensive aircraft to keep up.

The F-15 was designed as the USAF's primary interceptor aircraft, but also does well in close air-to-air stuff, and has adapted very well to the ground attack role.
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Mon May 07, 2001 11:03 am

Excellent description, DesertJets!  Big thumbs up
Well, thanks for the info guys.
I really appreciate it.
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Mon May 07, 2001 11:07 am

Fightingfalcon stated that the F-14s powerplants were very strong. Does that make it one the fastest fighter planes?

P.S Sorry if I'm irritating you guys with all my questions, but I'm really curious.
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Tue May 08, 2001 6:28 am

>GE, did you ever realize how big a F-14 is? It's much bigger than an F-18, and also much heavier. It needs so strong powerplants. Sure it's also fast, but not actualy really fast, just the normal speed for a fighter.

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Tue May 08, 2001 6:44 am

Here's a picture:

Do you recognize the aircraft in the background?
That's a Finnish SAAB Draken.

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Tue May 08, 2001 7:52 pm

Fightingfalcon: Hey, thanks a lot!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy You really cleared up all my doubts. You're a great help!
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Tue May 08, 2001 9:17 pm

FightingFalcon: quote 'Sure it's also fast, but not actualy really fast'

I am sorry but where did you get this info?

The F14 is an interceptor designed for fast flying.
the cruising speed of a F14 is much faster then the average jet like the F16.

The AIM54 is not as accurate as some say it is.
the F14 needs to be at a medium range to the targets, because of that it needs to fly real fast. its wat it was designed to do. intercepting Badger Bombers.

>The Tomcat has as much I can remember no ground attack capabilities

LY744 is right. I believe the squadron that uses precision guided weapons is stationed at NAS Oceana.
this is a fully equiped ground attack Sqn that uses the Super Tomcat.
the statement that you can hang any bomb under an aircraft that has hairpoints is just bullshit.
try hanging a GBU24 under a spitfire.



 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Tue May 08, 2001 11:42 pm

Hey, a F-14 isn't REALLY fast, like a MiG-27 or so. It IS fast, OK. But it is also big.
And about the bombs: I think with almost every (new era, not Spitfire) aircraft were tested different bombs. The normal F-14's on the USN aircraft carriers have no bombs under their wings.

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Wed May 09, 2001 9:54 pm

WHAT !!!! You are really lost aren't you.
The Mig 27 faster then the F14, you surely do not know what you are talking about.

The Max speed of a F14 is: 1544mph MACH 2.38
The Max speed of a Mig 27: 1170mph

Further more you cannot even compare the two aircraft with eachother. the mig is the counter aircraft for the F15. the Mig 23 however is the counter aircraft for the F14.

and the bomb question.
This is a article from Janes. please read it.

'The US Navy (USN) is further refining the air-to-surface capability of its Grumman F-14B/D Tomcat fighters. Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems and Aerostructures business has been awarded a US$6.5 million contract to produce 116 GBU-24 integration kits for F-14B/Ds. This investment follows the success of the Tomcats during the December 1998 attacks on Iraq'

Your Quote: "The normal F-14's on the USN aircraft carriers have no bombs under their wings".

well you can decide what you think of that sentence.

 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Wed May 09, 2001 11:33 pm

oops.....I wanted to say MiG-23.
I didn't know that there WILL be bomb kits.

Let's stop this fight, it comes to no end this way, F-14 is fast and has sometimes bombs attached, OK?

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Thu May 10, 2001 4:36 am

Gunfighter...

Maximum speeds arent worth a damn thing at all...you will never see any fighter aircraft reach those speeds except in cases of EXTREME emergency or in testing because its a true fuel burner...the lone exceptions to this are the F-22 and JSF aircraft, which have supercruise ability...

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Gunfighter

Thu May 10, 2001 4:48 am

Just to clear up what you said, the MiG-27 is a ground attack fighter, and the MiG-23, from which the MiG-27 is derived from is in no way comparable to either the F-15 or F-14 but more to a SAAB Viggen or similar 70's fighter
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Thu May 10, 2001 11:20 am

The main difference is:
F-14 - - - Is a LONG RANGE INTERCEPTOR.
It has AIM-54 Phoenix missiles which allow it to attack targets up to 150 nauticle miles away.

The F-15 was designed to be an all together great "dog-fighter"... while the F-14 was designed to destroy targets before they get into visual range.

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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Fri May 18, 2001 9:29 am

Actually, I remember reading somewhere that some F-14D drivers once (back when the -D was brand new) invited a pair of F-15Cs to play, and the F-15s left with their tails between the legs.

With the swing wings and the powerful (GE) engines, the F-14D is a good dogfighter for it's size. Especially if it's crew has been to Top Gun.

It'd take a Su-27 with a well trained pilot to give an F-14D trouble. Too bad the Pratt powered F-14s weren't what they could've been.
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Fri May 18, 2001 9:31 am

And I would think that the F-15 would be a better short/rough field plane than the F-15 because it has a slower approach speed and much tougher landing gear.
 
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RE: Difference Between F-15 & F-14

Fri May 18, 2001 10:21 am

As far as I know the F-15 is a much better dogfighter than the F-14, the F-14's engines (at least in the early versions) did not provide sufficient power. Also, the F-14's primary role was to be a launch platform for long-range A-A missiles. I think the F-14 is no match in a dogfight to the SU-27, MiG-29, F-16.

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