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Su27, Su30, & Su32

Thu Jun 28, 2001 7:42 pm

What are the main differences between these three, they all appear to share the basic airframe with some modifications, either engines, two seaters over one seaters etc.

When I think i'm seeing a SU27 its an SU30

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RE: Su27, Su30, & Su32

Thu Jun 28, 2001 8:49 pm

The SU-30 (The original version, not the MK) is a 2 seat advanced interceptor, that was designed to lead and manage air combats, in a way its like a small AWACS.
The SU-34 (formerly known as the SU-32FN, among others) is a tactical ground attack a/c. It was designed to replace the aging SU-24's of the Russian AF. The SU-34 is a two seater (unlike the SU-30, the pilots of the SU-34 seat side-by-side), it is heavily armed, and designed to penetrate the enemy's defense in low altitude. The SU-34's cockpit also includes a washroom and a food cabinette.
Feel free to ask more questions about the SU-27 family.

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RE: Su27, Su30, & Su32

Fri Jun 29, 2001 3:19 am

LY is right. The Su-30 looks identical to a Su-27 except for the 2 seat cockpit (like in the F-14 and F-15E). The Su-34 looks totally different

Ly744,
Are you sure it is called the Su-34 now? I thought was formerly the Su-34 and is now the 32, I could be wrong though.
 
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SU-34

Fri Jun 29, 2001 3:34 am

Yeah I'm sure its the SU-34 now. This a/c had many designations over the years:
First it was the SU-27KM-2, which was supposed to be a training version of the SU-27K (now known as the SU-33), the pilot and instructor seats were put side-by-side to improve safety when a trainee would be landing on an aircraft carrier, it provides the same view to the instructor and the trainee.
Then, it became the SU-27IB. The first SU-27IB was actually an SU-27UB that had its whole front section replaced to accomodate the different cockpit. The SU-27IB was designed to be a ground attack a/c to replace the SU-24.
Later, it was renamed the SU-32FN, probably because it needed an attack aircraft designation rather than a fighter one (see my reply to the "SU-42" post).
Finally it was named the SU-34.

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RE: Su27, Su30, & Su32

Fri Jun 29, 2001 3:37 am

Thx for the reply.
I think the Carrier trainer Su-27 is a totally different A/C. It just looks like the Su-34.
 
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RE: Su27, Su30, & Su32

Fri Jun 29, 2001 3:45 am

I don't think they ever actually made a carrier trainer, did they???
And yeah, the carrier trainer was quite different from the eventual SU-34, I included it on the designation list because it looks like the SU-34 program was a direct result of the carrier two-seater program.

BTW, Whistler, are you the former WhistlerYOW?

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RE: Su27, Su30, & Su32

Fri Jun 29, 2001 4:38 am

The trainer was made, it is called the Su-27KUB. I am not sure how many Russia has thought, if they have any. Apparently the side by side cockpit was used because it is a lot better for carrier training.

http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/su-27kub.html

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RE: Su27, Su30, & Su32

Fri Jun 29, 2001 10:48 am

Thanks for the great link, whistler!
I Never thought Russia actually built the carrier trainer.

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