fightingfalcon
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US Spy Planes

Fri Jul 27, 2001 4:33 pm

I heard on the radio yesterday evening, that an Iraqi SAM barely missed a US spy plane above Iraq (sp?).
Does anyone know what aircraft this was or something else about this incident?

And in general, which spy planes are still in service except the EP-3?
What's happened to the U-2's?
And what's about the UAV's, like Predator? How many of them are there? And when will the Global Hawk enter service?

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fireblade
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RE: US Spy Planes

Fri Jul 27, 2001 8:30 pm

for me there is only two us spy planes
AURORA the greatest
blackbird unfotunately not in servuce anymore (good damn pentagon)
 
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RE: US Spy Planes

Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:19 pm

 
fightingfalcon
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RE: US Spy Planes

Sat Jul 28, 2001 2:40 am

thanks MikeN.

Fireblade, did you really want to say "good damn"? It's somehow contradictory...

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RE: US Spy Planes

Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:22 am

Well, there are officially no SPYplanes left in service. There never were any in the first place...
There are several types of RECONAISCANCE planes. EP-2, EC-135, U-2 come to mind, plus recce-equipped F-14s, F/A-18s, F-16s, etc..
There are still a UAV in a recce role, and more being thought up all the time.
The only person calling national intelligence assets spyplanes and spysats are the press and other enemies.
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fightingfalcon
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RE: US Spy Planes

Sat Jul 28, 2001 6:43 am

When you look at it in this way, you can also add the Prowler...

Do you call the SR-71 a SPYplane?
I think at least the U-2 is a real SPYplane, the others rather not, cause they are freighters filled up with recce-electronics.

Did Europa, UK or Russia ever have such spyplanes? The Russians have (or had?) the Beriev A-50 Mainstay, but that's an Russian AWACS.

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RE: US Spy Planes

Sat Jul 28, 2001 7:53 am

The UK has 3 Nimrod R.1s based at RAF Waddington
 
LY744
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RE: US Spy Planes

Sat Jul 28, 2001 10:56 am

"The Russians have (or had?) the Beriev A-50 Mainstay, but that's an Russian AWACS."

Beriev??? The A-50 is just an IL-76 with a lot of electronic equipment.

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fireblade
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RE: US Spy Planes

Sun Jul 29, 2001 12:11 am

yes i do
they spent so much billions for spy satelites who could easily be destroyed by russian missiles and they said that keeping blackbird operational (which was thousand times on missions but none destroyed) is too much expensive
 
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RE: US Spy Planes

Sun Jul 29, 2001 1:51 am

The A-50 is like the Russian version of the E-3 Sentry. I heard it isn't very nice because the Radar isn't as good and there are no bathrooms or anything so the crew get fatigued easily.
 
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RE: US Spy Planes

Mon Jul 30, 2001 12:41 am

LY744, you're partially right. The A-50 Mainstay is based on the Il-76, but the official manufacturer is Beriev.
Confirmation and some info:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/a-50.htm

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jwenting
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RE: US Spy Planes

Mon Jul 30, 2001 10:21 pm

The UK had (has?) a bunch of Canberras for high-altitude recce-flights. Used in a similar profile as the U-2A.

Current U-2s are (at least officially) no longer spyplanes. All have been moved from CIA and SAC to ACC and pressed into battlefield surveillance tasks (again, at least officially).
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RE: US Spy Planes

Tue Jul 31, 2001 1:47 am

Any Lockheed TR-1 still being used nowadays?
How about McDonnell F-4G Wild Weasel? Regards.
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RE: US Spy Planes

Tue Jul 31, 2001 3:22 am

I know the press still calls them U-2s, but aren't the U-2s all TR-1s now.

As for the F-4G Wild Weasels, I believe all U.S. versions have been retired and replaced by F-16s.
 
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RE: US Spy Planes

Tue Jul 31, 2001 3:27 am

Here's what the Air Force says about the U-2s:

"The U-2R, first flown in 1967, is significantly larger and more capable than the original aircraft. A tactical reconnaissance version, the TR-1A, first flew in August 1981. Designed for standoff tactical reconnaissance in Europe, the TR-1A was structurally identical to the U-2R. The 17th Reconnaissance Wing, Royal Air Force Station Alconbury, England used operational TR-1As from 1983 until 1991. The last U-2 and TR-1 aircraft were delivered to the Air Force in October 1989. In 1992 all TR-1s and U-2s were designated U-2Rs. After re-engining with the F-118-101 engine, they were designated U-2S."
 
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RE: US Spy Planes

Tue Jul 31, 2001 3:39 am

I SURE WISH YOU COULD EDIT A POST... HINT, HINT.

The F-4Gs were replaced by F-16CJs in the Wild Weasel role.

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