fireblade
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Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 5:00 am

my opinion is hiroshi nishizava "devil"japanese pilot who shot down 103 enemy aircrafts ?
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 6:35 am

If this topic doesn't spark endless debate what will? On reflection my vote goes to Oswald Boelcke. He wrote the book for fighter pilots and the lessons still hold true today.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 7:16 am

Didn't Erich "Bubi" Hartman of the Luftwaffe shoot down something like 352 planes during WWII?

He's probably got the quality of sheer quantity - ironically, a Stalin quote - but there have to be people who have more skill.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 8:03 am

What qualifies as 'best' fighter pilot?
Is it the number of kills recorded, even if against poor opposition or unarmed aircraft, or could it be the best tactition?
My belief is that the best fighter pilot is the one who lives to tell his grandkids tall tales of battles won.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 5:30 pm

Ohhh....this should be a good one.

Just to throw some names out there, Tuck, Galland, Foss, Boyington, Peake, Chanault, Richtofen, Rickenbacker, Immelman, and Foss to name a few in no particular order.

As one of the preceding individuals said, "It isn't the crate that matters, It is the person in it."
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 6:56 am

A few others...Rall, Knoke, Johnson, "Gabby" Gabreski, Bong, Zemke, Sakai, Tuck, Deere. I doubt either of these men would have the temerity to state they were the best...but they, and others, were.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Mon Aug 20, 2001 3:33 am

well devil shot down 6 hellcats in a single battle with his zero and the hellcats were far better than zero
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Mon Aug 20, 2001 9:54 pm

The good old Red Baron, baron Von Richthofen.
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Wed Aug 22, 2001 8:52 am

Billy Bishop WWI
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Wed Aug 22, 2001 11:16 am

I think his name is Joesph Walker, he was the test pilot that took flight of an X-15 on it's record speed and altitude trails.

I wish I was in his place!  Big thumbs up
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Wed Aug 22, 2001 2:09 pm

Pete Mitchell.

 Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Fri Aug 24, 2001 3:13 am

After surfing the Web for a bit, I came across these pages. To me, these guys were the s**t in their day! Even though Hartmann got many of his kills against inexperienced Russian pilots in obsolete aircraft, they were kills none the less. I would say he is the all-time greatest fighter pilot.

http://www.luftwaffe.cz/eastern.html - Eastern Front
http://www.luftwaffe.cz/western.html - Western Front
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Fri Aug 24, 2001 3:16 am

One more note....

Unlike American pilots, German pilots flew constantly for the duration of the war. Had Gabby Gabreski and Douglas Bader and Richard Bong flown constantly for 6 years, I think their totals would have been pretty high as well.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Fri Aug 24, 2001 9:58 am

The allied pilots had better backup during the last years of WW2.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Fri Aug 24, 2001 12:21 pm

How about Chuck Yeager? I believe he was an ace WW2 AND Korea plus the greatest test pilot of all! By the way he flew the X-15 and broke the sound barrier.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Fri Aug 24, 2001 11:13 pm

Chuck Yeager was a great test pilot, he was also an ace (with only 5 or 6 kills I believe). However, he was really famous for one thing, taking the X-1 (not X-15) past Mach 1 in 1947. There have been many other pilots out there much better at their trade than Yeager was. Yeager just happened to be in the right place at the right time and got a lot of notoriety for his accomplishments.
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Fri Aug 24, 2001 11:45 pm

Besides Bob Hoover was a much more accomplished test pilot then Yeager.

The only reason why Hoover did not break the sound barrier was because he was being punished for an incident that occured a couple of months earlier.

Sorry I don't have the specifics off the top of my head. I can look them up if you wish.


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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Sun Aug 26, 2001 10:00 am

Erich Hartmann gets the title..........there's no question here.

Not all of his kills were Soviet aircraft either. A chapter of his autobiography details how he fought USAF P-51's from 1943 onward.

Anyways.....to shoot down over 350 enemy aircraft.....whether they be bombers, recce planes or fighters is a feat that is unequaled to this day.

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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Thu Aug 30, 2001 11:41 pm

Douglas Bader, possibly the most famous RAF ace of WWII
 
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:32 pm

He may not have the most kills ever but Scott O'Grady was certainly a remarkable airman.
 
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Extra300l

Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:16 pm

did you have a chance to watch the movie "battle for britain " filmed by the peter thousends' book samenamed ?
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RE: Extra300l

Tue Sep 04, 2001 3:55 pm

How about Roland Beaumont - started with BEF (British Expeditionery Force) in France 1939 on Hurricanes, survived the Battle of Britain and the rest of the war to become a well known test pilot. He was test pilot on Canberra but is probably best known for his work on the (sadly cancelled) TSR2
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RE: Who Is The Best Fighter Pilot Ever?

Tue Sep 04, 2001 7:22 pm

Definetely Jagger the first man who broke the wall.
 
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RE: Extra300l

Wed Sep 05, 2001 9:00 pm

if he use to be so great raf would give him a speedfire to fly  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.
i'm kidding hurricane is my favourire ww2 uk plane even if he was slower than speedfire

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