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China And Isreal

Fri Aug 24, 2001 6:40 pm

what technology was Isreal supplied to the PRC?
 
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RE: China And Isreal

Fri Aug 24, 2001 7:17 pm

I don't think that there are exact informations about this technology transfer but recently CHina released some pics of their new lightweight fighter, the J-10 if I'm not wrong, and it looks a lot like the IAI Lavi, the indigenous developed (although inspired by the F-16) Israeli fighter, not built because US allowed the HHA to buy F-16s.

More recently Israel was about to sell the PLAF (Chinese Air Force) some AEW system to be fitted on A-50 Mainstay (IL-76) airframes but the US once again prevented the deal.

I don't know or remember about other occasions of high tech transfer but it is really worring that this could happen. It's worring that a Country so big and not so quiet like China wants to build modern and higlhy effective armed forces.

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RE: China And Isreal

Fri Aug 24, 2001 8:51 pm

The fighter that idiot pilot of theirs that ran into that EP-3 was loaded with Python Air to Air missles. Those are equivelent to the US Sidewinder or the French Mica missles.
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RE: China And Isreal

Fri Aug 24, 2001 11:13 pm

That Chinese fighter was armed with Python 3 missiles, they are compareable to the AIM-9L/M. Those missles aren't in production anymore. The much more advanced Python 4 would never be exported to China, because the US would do everything in its power to prevent the Chinese from getting an AA missile that is more capable than the US equivelent.

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RE: China And Isreal

Sat Aug 25, 2001 1:26 am

The ChiComs got their hand on Sidewinder tech back in the 1950s when a MiG-15 returned with an unexploded one lodged in the tail during the Korean war. Since then they have probably aqcuired more from their friends in Iran, Iraq and Vietnam.
Both China and Israel are parias in the international community, like the RSA was for decades. Such countries naturally seek each other for mutual support. I

Why would the PRC not have a right to a modern armed force, Stefano? Is high-tech the sole prerogative of the US of A now?
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RE: Jwenting

Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:54 pm

j.t.
there is no question about right to have modern af but about politics .for example china with modern af could easily conqure taiwan and us doesn't like that at all.
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RE: China And Isreal

Sun Aug 26, 2001 4:01 am

true, but China with the tech it had 10 years ago could also do that if they get their act together and build an amphib force.
Once you have the numerical advantage they can employ, tech no longer matters, especially if you have some nukes to throw around.
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RE: China And Isreal

Sun Aug 26, 2001 11:09 pm

maybe you are right about nymerical advantage but i think that it's better to have smaller quantity of modern aircrafts than a large quantity of old fashioned .
and about nukes i don't think so that they will throw them especially not in taiwan .
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RE: China And Isreal

Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:00 pm

Jwenting.....I have to correct you on one thing.

The first Sidewinder that the Chi-com's got was in the late 1950's during one of their little spats with Taiwan. It was a sidewinder B and was fired from a Taiwanese aircraft.

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RE: China And Isreal

Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:27 am

Hmm. this is news.

I thought the Israelis supplied China witha technology called "Phalcon", an AWAC's like system.

India was supposed to have bought the system first, to be mounted on IAF Illyushin 76's or modified A310's, but the Yanks pulled the plug after the nuclear tests of 1998. So that technology is now going to the Chinese.
 
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RE: China And Isreal

Mon Sep 03, 2001 1:40 am

The AWACS sale to China was cancelled due to pressure from the US.

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