SouthernCRJ
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Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:04 am


Which one has the longest range?
Which is the fastest?
Which has more precision?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:11 am

Longest range? The AGM-86C perhaps
The fastest? Just guessing again, but it could be the AGM-88.
The most precise? In hitting what kind of targets? Anti-radar? Anti-armor? Other?

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:29 pm

-> Ch-31 - air ti ground (antiradar rocket) cared by MiG-29m/k, the Su family. used as antiradar, antiship, anti-anything what moves on the ground.
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Oct 25, 2001 8:42 pm

If would like to make a suggestion:

We have a fairly succesful "best AA missile" thread, that is probably because it is fairly easy to discuss the performances of AA missiles, as they are all made to destroy the same target. It is not the case with AG missiles. There are numerous AG missiles out there, with different ranges, sizes, warheads, and, most importantly, targets that they were designed to hit. I think that it would be a good idea to divide the question into several categories, for ex: Best anti-tank/armor (AGM-65 for example), anti-radar, anti-ship, cruise missiles, etc. If you have an extra category, go ahead and tell us so we can discuss that as well!

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:12 am

LY744:

Probably you're right, my topic isn't well formulated; so let's divide it into different categories like the ones you're proposing.

Regards
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Fri Oct 26, 2001 8:23 pm

We have a fairly succesful "best AA missile" thread

Yes we do untill we started with cannons,UZI,Hecklers,and SF pictures.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Fri Oct 26, 2001 9:25 pm

I try to answer as good as I can and I can only tell you about U.S. missiles.

1. If you consider a cruise missile a missile the one with the longest range is the Boeing BGM-86C. Block IA should be available by now and has a range of 600nm+.

2. The AGM-88 is called HARM which means highspeed anti radiation missile. It is about 2280 km/h fast.

The Hellfire is also pretty fast, 900mph. The Maverick is only about 1100 km/h fast. AGM-86C, SLAM-ER and Harpoon are with jet engines so they're subsonic.


3. The BGM-86C Block IA has a 3rd generation GPS guidance with steep terminal dive so it should be quite precise.
Other missiles with GPS guidance like the SLAM-ER

and JASSM

might also be as precise.
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Sat Oct 27, 2001 2:49 am

How about the Taurus and the Apache (stealth missile?) ?
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Sat Oct 27, 2001 2:49 am

Maverick, Slam, and offcourse the cruisemissile.
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Blackened

Sat Oct 27, 2001 5:00 am

AGM86C.

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Sat Oct 27, 2001 5:39 am

I don't know much about this but what about houghes missile?
 
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LY744

Sat Oct 27, 2001 7:43 pm

Sure! I wrote it correctly once in the post. Maybe I was thinking of the Tomahawk too much. But when I look through the posts I think that most people wouldn't have noticed anyway.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:55 pm

Fireblade,
Sorry bout the cannons and uzis... guess I kind of started those topics in there....
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Wed Oct 31, 2001 7:35 pm

Sorry I had no time to reply before but i found a missile:
XS-19 which would be carried with tu-160 blackjack and has a range of 4000 km. It would be the most advanced cruise missile (btw it would cost about 8 mil $ each) - BUT it was canceled
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 12:49 am

The HARM should be the fastest ('bout mach-4), I don't know about the precision of the missiles, but the newest missiles should all be as accurate that the difference doesn't matter. If you want to hit a tank, you just have to hit the turret, there's no need to hit a particular nail on it...

Martin
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:34 am

quote: HARM which means highspeed anti radiation missile. It is about 2280 km/h fast.

that is not anywhere close to M-4. in fact, if you find me an international, not just US or NATO, facts stating that there was an object that flew beyond M-3.2, i'll give you a ruble! because i believe that there is simply no such thing that flyes that fast! (reasons - the engine will melt down; the rocket will hit so damn much it'll burn while flying; and so on)

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:59 am

MiG-29-Sniper:

"that is not anywhere close to M-4."

Actually, at a certain altitude it would be.  Smile

"if you find me an international, not just US or NATO, facts stating that there was an object that flew beyond M-3.2, i'll give you a ruble! because i believe that there is simply no such thing that flyes that fast!"

Isn't the SR-71 capable of Mach 3.5? What about ICBM warheads (or for that matter, manned space ships) re-entering the atmosphere? The speed of an SA-12b GIANT is 2.4km/sec. multiply that by 3600 (60 sec in a min, 60 min in an hour), and you get 7640km/h. At sea level, that would be somewhere around Mach 6-7.

You can keep the Ruble.

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:05 am

Q:Isn't the SR-71 capable of Mach 3.5?
A: no - 3520km/h is about 3.2

Q:manned space ships) re-entering the atmosphere?
A: nope - they dont enter it that fast, and even if they do the enginse are not the support. support is gravity.

Q:The speed of an SA-12b GIANT is 2.4km/sec.
A: doubt it... unless you're talking about the speed of sight...

Q:You can keep the Ruble.
A: why, thank you very little!
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:10 am

Dima is wrong [isn't he always?]s-300v allows target speed of 3km per second that is hm 3*3600=10800km/h of the target because s-300v missile must be faster than it's target imagine it's speed.
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:19 am

I would like to emphacize (once again) that the speed of sound varies according to altitude. I think the higher the altitude, the faster sound can travel (less air=less ressistance?), therefore, when you say that M3=3250km/h, you should state the altitude in which that is true (I'm sure it is true in some altitude, the questions is, would it be a couple km under the surface of the Earth?).

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:27 am

Fire, guess what your next package will contain?!?!?!?!

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:30 am

If any of you are thinking about sending white powdery substances to anyone anytime soon, I would advise against it, as you can go to jail for 5 years no matter what the substance really is, around here, anyway.  Innocent

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Dima

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:35 am

Swiss chocolate and a postcard?
Am i right?
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:38 am

If any of you are thinking about sending white powdery substances to anyone anytime soon, I would advise against it, as you can go to jail for 5 years no matter what the substance really is, around here, anyway
Maybe in USA or Canada or any other normal country,but in Macedonia he could send me a Nuclear Bomb without fear of any kind of penalty.
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:39 am

you'RE damn right!!! but those will come later after the 500g or c-4 with a string to the hatch!
Deem's (and who gives a shit about the white powder?)
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:43 am

You don't know my adress so forgath about it.
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:46 am

..."how often we are surprized by underastimating other people's abilities..." -DimaN.

out
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 6:58 am

But i do.
Is it :"11th september 37 l/12 kicevo MAcedonia"
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:07 am

OK, I'll modify my earlier statement somewhere around here (mil av) to "Who needs chat rooms when Fireblade, MiG-29-Sniper, Visage and myself are on the military aviation forum at the same time?"  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

BTW, how did you find out Fire's address?  Confused
 Laugh out loud

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:07 am

And for the last time LAME du feu
 
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LY744

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:23 am

From his mailbox.
Guess what was his password.
Let me help you his favourite plane?
Guess it from three times?
 
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LY744

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:26 am

Also his a.net password is s10b0dan .understand
name slobodan password s10b0dan
Do you notice 1=l 0=o .
Piece of cake
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Visage

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:30 am

Are you some kind of a hacker?
 
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Visage

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:32 am

Well, I know his password (unless he changed it by now) because he emailed it to me, but how on earth did you find out???  Wow!
I'm impressed! Big grin OK, who am I kidding, I'm stunned!  Laugh out loud

Wanna try guess mine?

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Lame Du Feu

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:33 am

No but one of my friends is.
A good one.
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Visage

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:34 am

OK then, forget about my suggestion! I don't want you to guess my password anymore!  Wow! Well, don't post it around here, anyway.

 Big thumbs up

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LY744

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:38 am

Alex
As i already said i'm not a hacker nor i'm interested about someone else privacy.
I just wanted fireblade home adress to send him a piece of su-30mki and a friend of mine help me.
He said that people usually put something that they can not forgath as a password or something they are interested for .Because i know that fireblade love Su-37
it was very easy to find his password.
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:42 am

I feel stupid one more time i'm out of here.
lame du fae or lezvie or what a hell
 
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LY744

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:43 am

Why should he e-mail his password to you?
 
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Visage

Thu Nov 01, 2001 8:48 am

I'm not sure if it's OK to post it here because Slobodan might consider it private, but I guess I can email it to you (unless Fire objects, of course) if you really wanna know (let me know if you do).

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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:22 pm

i never gave you my password, BritvaSRukojatkoy. i doubt i ever will, but somebody knows your home address, and that is already something.....

hey Alex, i just love your idea about chtish-forum when we're all on it at the same time. do post one!!!
 
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Dima

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:26 pm

Stop speaking Russian you trep-29-nishan.
And stick to the thread.
M 4 is unreachable hahaha
 
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RE: Best Air To Surface Missile

Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:49 pm

MiG-29-Sniper:

Well, no one has to post one, the 3-4 threads we used yesterday could do. Besides, if we post a "party thread", it might get deleted as it is not aviation related (unless we pretend it is Big grin). That's why we used to have the "TWfirst volumes" in non-aviation, they went up to 300-something replies! Don't have them anymore, though.

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Lexy Lexy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 5:24 am

You don't understand what happening in this forum.
Not even a clue.
Nobody going to delete that kind of thread i'm 80% sure[i shall not be a part of that thread i'm telling you now]because there's a very few threads in mil forum .
But anuyway that's against the rules and let keep that small prestige of the mil forum so if anybody want to chat about his grandmother cookimg there's a chat room and non aviation forum .THis is mil forum.
I know that sometimes [ok many times ]i go against the rules but i'm proud about mil forum and i think that is the best part even if it has only a few members , ancient threads , not many re's and hackers who post your adresses ,passwords and many other things all over the forum
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