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KC-10A

Wed Nov 07, 2001 11:34 am

Why was it that in the past KC-10's used to be painted in brilliant USAF colors, but now all are in a dull grey/brown shade?

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RE: KC-10A

Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:12 pm

I think that those brilliant USAF colors were used in the beginning as sort of a message to get people's attention when they spotted a KC-10 but as soon as they started to be deplyed overseas they were painted
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RE: KC-10A

Wed Nov 07, 2001 8:37 pm

You are wrong  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
The brilliant colours were used when the KC-10s were part of the SAC bombersupport force. They were indeed never meant to operate in hostile airspace then. The bright colours were the normal scheme at the time for SAC non-combat aircraft. Designed to be highly visible (both as PR and so the bomber pilots could more easily spot their tanker), it wass of course less than suitable for use in a combat environment.
Early on, at least some C-141s and C-5s carried a similar scheme. Later they received first European 1 (charcoal black and shades of green) and are now low-viz grey which is the current USAF standard for all aircraft except hospital aircraft, trainers and VIP transports.
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RE: KC-10A

Thu Nov 08, 2001 11:10 am

I see KC-10s very often and I haven't seen the blue and white in at least 8 years.
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RE: KC-10A

Thu Nov 08, 2001 11:36 am

The first 20 or so KC-10's were all painted that way. Then SAC wanted to camouflage them for the tactical work and some say, to kind of rein in the 'gucci boy' attitude. So most KC-10's were repainted in the 'Shamu' (like shamu the killer whale at sea world) paint scheme. Out of the 60 (later 59) KC-10's in the fleet they had 6 painted in the white top colors, and the rest in 'shamu'. The reason they kept some with the 'white top' was that back in the day some countries had problems with 'military looking' aircraft on their territory.

And since there were 3 KC-10 bases at the time, March in Southern California, Barksdale in Louisiana, and Seymour-Johnson in North Carolina, there were 2 white tops at each base.

If I'm not mistaken I think that MAC had some of their cargo planes with a similiar looking white top (but didn't look nearly as cool) for the same reason the KC-10 did. I thought both looked cool, (way better than that ugly grey their painted as today) but the white top was way more attractive.

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RE: KC-10A

Fri Nov 09, 2001 5:43 pm

There was a general "greying out" of US military aircraft in the late 80's.

During that time the colorful schemes that where on C-5's, C-141's, EC-135's, and even Navy F-14, F-4, and S-2 aircraft pretty much went away.
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RE: KC-10A

Fri Nov 09, 2001 9:16 pm

What about the E-3's and E-8's, have they been repainted in the dark grey colors too?

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RE: KC-10A

Fri Nov 09, 2001 9:51 pm

That white KC-10 has already been toned down somewhat. They used to have a diagonal blue band with gold stars across the fuselage as well at one time (it's still there over the wing, but it used to be wider and the SAC logo larger if memory serves).
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Re: Jwenting

Fri Nov 09, 2001 11:23 pm

hey dude, i think your talking about the Dutch KDC-10. there hasn't been a white top KC-10 in 3 or 4 years. the KDC-10's are white top with a grey bottom, and a blue stripe running along it's fuselage.

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