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Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sat Jan 19, 2002 6:36 am

What was the fastest Prop fighter in WWII? Please include any and all that may not have made it to full scale production but put up test numbers anyway.

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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sat Jan 19, 2002 12:12 pm

Not sure but buy the end of the war I would guess between the F8F Bearcat,P-38 Lightning and P-51 Mustang.
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sat Jan 19, 2002 4:28 pm

Republic P-47"M" Thunderbolt...Dornier Do335 Pfiel ( "Arrow" )...Martin-Baker MB-5...Republic XP72 ( modded P-47 w/R4360 ). I'm sure there are others.
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sat Jan 19, 2002 7:59 pm

There have been claims from P-47, P-38, P-51D/K and FW-190D pilots that they all broke the sound barrier during the war trying to dive away from attackers. Of those four aircraft I would say that the P-51D was the one that was most probable to do it. The radials and the P-38 probably are too draggy. To the best of my knowledge the FW-190D used a wood prop due to wartime shortages of metal so I don't think it would have been able to either.
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:05 am

No prop plane has ever broken the sound barrier,it is not possible with the kind of aerodynamics in use at the time.
The fastest recorded WW2 prop plane was a Spitfire MK. XI Photo-Reco plane that was used in tests at Boscombe Down for transonic research and it was dived to Mach 0.82.
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:21 am

Fair enough but keep in mind that was a measured test FBU 4EVER

There have been several claims by fighter pilots of that time to have broken the sound barrier but since it wasn't offically recorded.....oh well.
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 20, 2002 2:28 am

L-188, it is physically impossible to break the sound barrier on a prop-engined AC because the propellers lose efficiency on transonic speeds, so the pilots merely experienced the instability caused by transonic speeds on those fighters.

WW2 sound barrier? I heard about the Me-262 breaking it, only to crash making a big crater on the ground. So, I don’t think that counts  Big grin
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 20, 2002 5:10 am

Does the Race Aircrafts modified WWII planes counts?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 20, 2002 9:35 am

I don´t think so, Schreiner, as those would be out of specifications.

 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 20, 2002 5:39 pm

Agreed that it is pretty much a physical impossiblity. But that doesn't stop a WWII pilot coming out of the woodwork every couple of years to claim that he did it.

There was Luftwaffe pilot this past year that made the claim in a Fw190D
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Mon Jan 21, 2002 12:10 am

If they did know what was happening to their aircraft, and a little of supersonic aerodynamics, they would keep this on their minds, as their credibility goes with those claims.

 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Mon Jan 21, 2002 12:27 am

Well I can't fault them....the stories I have heard mainly involve an aircraft with somebody elses paint on it, being on their six.

I just wanted to make mention of these claims.
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Mon Jan 21, 2002 7:18 am

Yak-3 could go 740km/h, dunno if that was the fastest of them all but certainly very fast for an a/c of that time...

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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Mon Jan 21, 2002 8:07 am

Dornier´s Do-335 max speed is supposed to be in excess of 770 Kmh
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 5:52 pm

It´s quite a while ago but I remember having read in Guinness book of records that the Republic P 47 holds the speed record for WWII-prop-fighters (it was reported to be 806 KMH's if memory serves me well)

Now this source was stating nowhere wether this record was set up during WWII or in post war-period nor was it mentioning the version of the "Jug" that was involved.

 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:18 pm

I read recently an article debating the "supersonic" Spit at Boscombe Down - I can't recall the details but will try and dig it out. But if we're talking about operational production aircraft in level flight, then the Hawker Tempest and and Focke Wulf Ta152 must be contenders.

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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Wed Jan 23, 2002 4:23 am

The P-51H Mustang
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 27, 2002 9:42 am

Mark XIX Spitfire.
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 27, 2002 11:31 am

The fastest was the Do-335, there is no room for discussions here guys.

But if you mean operational prop aircraft, that´s another story  Smile
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Sun Jan 27, 2002 7:53 pm

I think you will find it may well be the Hawker Seafury


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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Thu Jan 31, 2002 9:10 pm

TechRep,

As Colin suggested, it would be wise if you specified "operational fighter speed in level flight." This would have prevented all the supersonic dive legends that have appeared in response to your question.

I believe NKP S2 was correct. It was the P-47M interceptor version of the Thunderbolt. The P-51H was not as fast and didn't see service in WWII.

Glenn-Had you posted a shot of a Sea Fury the shameless plug would have worked for me. Is that wide-and-slow thing you posted related to the Provost, or are you going to tell me the Australians made that many mistakes on one design? Big grin
 
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RE: Fastest Wwii Prop Fighter?

Thu Jan 31, 2002 10:08 pm

I guess what Glenn posted was an Aus-sea Fury  Smile

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