"I REALLY wish people on these forums would stop basing their arguments solely on their enthusiasm for one side."
WN, search through my posts on this forum, and see who I've been acused of favoring more often...
Lt-AWACS, my whole reply was addressing the "Russian don't have BVR capability" statement.
"As for the Archers and Alamo's"
Never even mentioned the Archer, why would I?
"but Russia does not have a fully active i.e AR missile working. nothing close to the AIM-120"
Even assuming that the AA-12 is indeed not operational as you say, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about, which is BVR capability, not active radar homing capability, which hasn't come up until now.
"THe SAR i.e Semi active ones are okay, but your ranges are off."
I didn't specify any ranges.
"but it sounds like airshow or industry propaganda....and they do look pretty at air shows"
What's your obsession with air shows?
I've never seen a missile fired at an airshow.
As for my sources, everything I said in my previous reply can be atributed to general knowledge, but you can go to The Federation Of American Scientists' Military Analysis Network
It is relatively impartial and will give you range numbers that should be used as a rough reference.
So, can you finally explain what you meant by saying that Russia doesn't have BVR capability?