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Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:46 am

Hi

Have a look at these 3 shots (3 Tu-22):

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They have not the same landing gear, the engines are mounted differently, the 2 first aircrafts seem not to have wings which can "move" (what is the exact term in English?). Were these 3 aircrafts designed for different missions or are these differences due to various improvements in comparison with the first model?
 
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RE: Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:00 am

The first pic is a Tu-22 "Blinder". The third one is the Tu-22M "Backfire" Tupolev chose a different design for their new Tu-22 version. Why they did is beyond me, but the Tu-22M is definately their best!  Big thumbs up

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RE: Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 5:20 am

There are essentially two Tu-22's; the Tu-22 and Tu-22M (Top right and bottom pics in your post). As you can see, they are nothing alike, although both are bombers. At the time, the Soviet leadership believed blindly in ICBM's as a long range strategic weapon, practically freezing the creation of new bombers. The Soviet AF (VVS) knew better, so they, in conjunction with the Tupolev DB fooled the bureaucrats into believing that their new bomber is just a modification of a proven design. Sort of like the "Super" Hornet today.  Big grin Big grin

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RE: Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:38 pm

Correct. The 2nd one is a preproduction model of the Tu-22M (a.k.a. Tu-26).
The 2D fixed inlet design was found to be non-optimal for a supersonic bomber and was changed into the 3D moving design seen in the production aircraft.

Also note the refueling nozzle in the nose of the preproduction version which was later removed under a treaty with the US on strategic arms limitations (I think it was a provision of SALT II).
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RE: Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:23 pm

Thanks!  Big grin
How many were built? Are Russia and Ukraine the only countries operating this plane?
 
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RE: Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:41 pm

Don't know how many were built (the USSR didn't exactly publish their production figures).

Lybia and Iran also operate them (Tu-22s, not 22Ms). There are reports of China (communist) and possibly Iraq having aqcuired some 22Ms.
Iraq was very interested around 1995, but I think Russia refused to sell them under international pressure to honour the embargo.

AFAIK no other countries have them, and the Lybian and Iranian aircraft may be non-operational.
Maybe some other Soviet republics have small fleets. Kazakhstan comes to mind. But most if not all of those have probably been returned to Russia or Ukraine under the nuclear-disarmement program initiated by the CIS in the 1990s.
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RE: Tu-22: 3 Versions?

Sat Aug 03, 2002 12:04 am

I've heard a story that said the TU-22 designation was repeated for the Backfire from the Blinder to try to fool NATO, especially during the SALT talks.
It was known that the Blinder had only theatre range, and could not threaten the US, unlike the Backfire which could just about with in-flight refuelling and better stand-off weapons.
Of course, getting it past the Soviet beancounters was also likely a factor.

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