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First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:07 pm

Hello, this is the 1st BBJ for USAF, ex-Fordair VP-BFO 30755/545


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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:56 pm

Do you have any information which unit is going to operate this jet or on which air base it will be stationed?

What is the purpose of this a/c within the Air Force?

Currently there 737's used (T-43A) at AFB Randolph (FTW-12).
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:06 pm

I think that il will operate VIP flights but I don't know from which base, maybe 89th AW at Andrews ? Or a regional command.
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:28 pm

I believe the Air Force designation is C-40B, actually almost the same as the C-40A operated by the US Navy.

Check http://www.globemaster.de/html/seaunits.html
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Thu Aug 22, 2002 9:02 pm

US Navy C-40 are standard 737-700, used for transport. USAF C-40 are BBJ for VIP flights.
 
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:07 am

Hi

Just to add to what's been said:

The first USAF C-40B (BBJ) was 01-0015, not 02-0201 in the photo linked to above.

The USN's C-40A Clipper is a 737-700 Convertible (Quick Change spec.). New maindeck combi aircraft can no longer be certified for airline op's in the USA, so commercial use of this sub-type is doubtful.

For reference, see the previous thread on USAF BBJs (May this year):
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/military/read.main/9115/6/
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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:42 pm

As a taxpayer, I have to wonder why the Air Force needs this aircraft.

They already have a pretty extensive fleet of Gulfstreams.

You can get a maindeck cargo freighter certified in the US but it has to have a permanent fixed bulkhead between the cargo and the passenger compartments. The movable one that is used in the QC aircraft does not cut the mustard. And the fixed bulkhead eliminates the flexibility that would make operating a combi economic.


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RE: First Usaf BBJ

Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:19 am

The Air Force C-40B will be replacing the last VC-137 (707) at Andrews AFB, MD at the 89th Wing.

The Navy C-40As are at NAS Ft Worth JRB, TX and are not just VIP transport but fullfill several roles.


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