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Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:33 pm

Hi there,

I'm not so much into military aviation. For this reason I'm asking the following questions regarding this shot:


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- Is it really a B-350?
- Is it from the USA?
- Is it Air Force, Navy, Army?
- Reason for being in BCN?

Some guys here say it is an special version of the Beech due to the high ammount of antennas. Others say its not US but from Israel due to missing country identification, maybe on a ferry flight to Israel...

Next to the rear door you can read "Experimental".

Thanks for any hind.

Regards
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RE: Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Wed Dec 11, 2002 1:03 am

I have noticed your ID troubles on this one. US Army designation is either RC-12D or C-12K but I will try to look it up when I go home, as I am on work right now.
I like the picture, but I think you were lucky not to get it rejected for badperson.

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RE: Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Wed Dec 11, 2002 3:39 am

It most certainly looks like one of IDF/AF's a/c (livery, number, insignia on tail). Further more, I believe Israel has recently ordered more of these, so my bet would be that it is indeed headed for Israel.

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RE: Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Wed Dec 11, 2002 3:43 am


An IDF/AF Beechcraft King Air ("Tzufit"). The a/c are used for patrol and reconnaissance.

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dee-see-eit
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RE: Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:15 am

Thanks guys.

I see that I just got a very rare aircraft making a stopover in Spain. As Erik said the photo could have been rejected for badpeople and/or badblury (right part), but I think the screener on duty recognised that I had no chance to repeat or improve it.

I've just corrected some of the infos thanks to your input.

DC8

 
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RE: Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:22 am

I have been searching on the www.scramble.nl database. It is as correctly stated by LY744 an Israeli Air Force Be-200CT/T from 100 Squadron. I can not find the construction number.
In the book Jet & Propjet 2002 by Peter T. Simmonds the following Be-200´s are in service:
4X-FEA / 501 Be-200 BB-1385
4X-FEB / 504 Be-200 BB-1386 191 Sqn
4X-FEC / 507 Be-200 BB-1387 191 Sqn
4X-FED / 510 Be-200 BB-1388 100 Sqn
4X-FSA / 974 RC-12D BP-7
4X-FSB / 977 RC-12D BP-8 191 Sqn
4X-FSC / 980 RC-12D BP-9 191 Sqn
4X-FSD / 982 RC-12D BP-10
4X-FSE / 985 RC-12D BP-11 191 Sqn
4X-FSF / 987 RC-12K FG-1 191 Sqn
4X-FSG / 990 RC-12K FG-2 191 Sqn

I still think it is a RC-12D or RC-12K. If not mentioned on the list above, then a new delivery.
I have tryed to upload a couple of RC-12´s in USAF service, but got them rejected. They were bristling with antennas like a hedgehog.
About the badpeople thing, I fear we miss a lot of good pictures on that account. Why can 20-50 years old pictures be uploaded showing people who either have grown up and are elderly people or even has passed away sevral years ago. If we meet those people in the street, who will recognize them from a picture on A.net? When we took the pictures we were not thinking of the troubles it will bring to upload them on A.net. And how can we find these people and ask for permission?????
Well. I guess it belongs in another topic, sorry.

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RE: Who Can Help Identifying This One?

Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:47 am

The King Air is definitely a new delivery. The IDF/AF has a few of those scheduled for delivery this month. The additional airframes will allow the phasing out of 3 different types of aircraft, the DC-3, the Beechcraft 80 Queen Air and the Do-28. They will also be used (for the first time) for flight training in the IAF flight academy (training future transport pilots), and, in the future, in the transport operational training course.

P.S. the guy in the pic looks like he might be a member of the IDF/AF, his uniform looks very much like that of an IDF O-4.

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