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The Mother Of All Bombs

Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:07 am

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/11/sprj.irq.moab/index.html

Cool  Smile I think it makes a pretty good psych weapon.

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[Edited 2003-03-12 01:09:33]
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:45 am

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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:52 am

Is the C-130 the only type of a/c that can carry and deliver this bomb? I've heard that it's size of pick up truck. Is it possible for the C-17's to deliver these "GOODIES" or are they strictly for troop and equipment tranport? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:46 am

Any cargo aircraft that is capable of making cargo airdrops, and carry the bomb can drop it.

That means if necessary C-130, C-17, C-141, or C-5.

But I think the C-130 will be the preferred aircraft since they already are trained to drop the Daisy Cutter, and there are more C-130 crews that are trained to operate in combat zones (either as cargo or spec ops).
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:25 pm

I wonder what the specifics, dimensions, powder charge, weight are in this once compared to the Daisy Cutter and the WWII Grandslam and Tallboy bombs.

Would make and interesting comparision
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:31 pm

Grandslam and Tallboy were completely different beasts.
Those were high explosive earth penetrators.

Both this new device and Daisy Cutter are designed for airburst and lack fragmentation effect due to the different skin material.

As to size (this from CNN):
MOAB: 21000lbs, 18000 of which is tritonal explosive
BLU-82 (Daisy Cutter): 15000lbs, 12600 of which is an ammonium nitrate component (fertiliser).
MOAB both has more explosives than the entire weight of the BLU-82, and that explosive is more powerful too.

From the photos, it looks like the MOAB has some gliding capability enabling standoff release which would help deployment against defended targets (BLU-82 has to be dropped more or less directly overhead).
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:19 pm

True about the role of those two British WWII bombs.

It would be interesting to se a comparison between them though.
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Fri Mar 14, 2003 5:36 pm

OK, got this from the Imperial War Museum (Duxford branch) website, part of the blurb about the Avro Lancaster:

"Normally capable of lifting a 14,000 lb (6.360 kg) bomb load, special versions equipping 617 Squadron carried a single 22,000 lb (10,000 kg) Grand Slam bomb for special targets. One of the most famous Lancaster operations was the 'Dam Busters' raid in May 1943, which destroyed the Mohne and Eder dams. Production of Lancasters ceased in 1946 when 7,366 had been built."

Keep in mind that that's total weight, a lot of which would have been the steel bombcasing. Explosives were most likely under 10000lbs.
Weapons construction is completely different because of the different mission.
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RE: The Mother Of All Bombs

Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:11 pm

Interesting how much can be inferred from a picture. Seems I was right on target with my mission profile guestimate  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Interesting read.
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