ryanb741
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Security Measures For Air Force One

Thu Mar 20, 2003 10:58 pm

What measures does Air Force One take when overflying other countries' airspace. Does it get a fighter escort?
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ryanb741
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:22 pm

Surely somebody out there knows?
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OPNLguy
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:31 pm

Given that there's a war on, I gather that most folks don't think it's prudent to discuss this topic.

If you contact the US Secret Service, I'm sure they could tell you... (But -would- they?)
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jhooper
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sat Mar 22, 2003 7:23 am

There are many books available in the bookstore specifically about Air Force One. Many of its security features are classified, but I believe AF1 is NOT typically under fighter escort.
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wilcharl
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:11 pm

the discovery channel sopecail said its not under escort by the other nations aircraft, as if a midair would occoure, it couldnt be blamed on the other nation. the man interviewed stated that other nations normally offer figher escort but it is AF1 policy to turn them down
 
fspilot747
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:52 pm

I was under the impression that AF1 always had U.S. Fighter escort...?



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Airbus Lover
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sat Mar 22, 2003 7:47 pm

What if they were flying and suddenly some other stolen fighter with a missle intercepts it, locks on radar and fire? and the missile IR jammer fails?
 
manni
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:16 pm

Airbus Lover,

Exit Bush.

I've seen AF1 twice at BRU, not ones it was escorted by fighter jets.
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:02 am

Airbus Lover,

There is only one answer to that question:

BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!
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Ilyushin96M
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:07 am

Air Force One is supposedly one of the most heavily modified 747-200 series aircraft ever. Besides having many systems from the -400 series, it also supposedly has various anti-missile defense systems. There are no specifics, but supposedly, the great bird can fend off an attack fairly well on her own. Plus, she is piloted by some of the Air Force's finest. While a 742 is not exactly a fighter jet, I'm sure the cockpit crew are well-trained in evasive manoevres to keep the president out of harm's way.
 
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 1:14 am

BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!
Then there would also be a new election.


Nope then Dick Cheney would be president.

Air Force One has a lot of devices to prevent that from happening from a Surface to Air Missle to something like that.
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usair330
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:12 am

Air Force one doesn't use fighter escort BUT there is always a fighter jet in the area incase of any threats..... That is a fact by the way....
 
gigneil
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:51 am

I hate George Bush with a burning passion.

But he is 1000 times preferable to having Dick Cheney the Nazi as president.

I always wondered why AFO wasn't a 747-400 - they were in production by the time it was built.

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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:59 am

Dont worry, if Cheney became President... all you'd have to do is yell "boo!", he'd have a heart attack [not like he hasnt had a few thousand already], and we'd have new election.
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gigneil
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:03 am

No.

The Speaker of the House would become President.

Then, if he dies, the President of the Senate pro tempore would be the President.

But only for 30 days.. then the Senate and House meet in a joint session and elect from the Congress a new President and Vice President, and declare open vacancies in the Congress - which are filled by appointment of the State Governor in question.

Edited to add the "But only for 30 days..." part.

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[Edited 2003-03-23 02:07:10]
 
shaun3000
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:37 pm

Edit -- nevermind, I didin't read the entire post he responded to. You can probably figure out what I said if you read the previous two posts.

[Edited 2003-03-23 06:38:33]
 
MD-90
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 2:47 pm

I wonder if the Air Force One birds don't have -400 systems in a -200 body. That doesn't really make much sense because the -400F has the short hump, but I wonder if they wanted the shorter hump for some specific reason? Because of course it has modern engines, just like a -400?

By the way, does anyone know if Air Force One is power by Pratt & Whitneys or GE (of course it just couldn't have been RR, lol)
 
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Sun Mar 23, 2003 4:14 pm

Boeing calls it a 747-200B, but it can only be classified as a VC-25A because it has been so heavily modified.

AF1 has plenty of protection from missiles. It has Disco balls above each engine (on the pylon) and under the APU. Other systems aren't as apparent from the outside so I don't know about them, but if it has IR protection one can be assured that it has radar. Also it is flown by the best pilots in the USAF.

Any attempt to attack AF1 would be suicide, one can only imagine even if AF1 turns down the escort, that they aren't at least following a bit behind, just in case. And the USAF is probally on call if need be.
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LY744
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:13 am

MD-90, they are CF6-80's, like the ones offered on the -400.

LY744.
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RE: Security Measures For Air Force One

Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:01 am

I beleive that the defense systems of AF1 have been discussed before on this forum, you might try a search!
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