usair330
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F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:32 pm

I realised that all Military aircraft in the U.S have letters. I assume B/F/C all stand for something. Example;

B1, B2, B52 (All Bombers)

F4, F14, F15, F16, F18 etc. (All fighters)

C5, C17, C130, etc. (All transports)

So my real question is, (since it doesn't fit in the topic box) If the Stealth fighter plays a bomber role and if what I assumed is right. Why is it called the F-117 instead of the B-117.
 
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:58 pm

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A Attack
B Bomber
C Cargo
D Drone
E Electronic
F Figher
G Glider
H Search and Rescue (SAR)
I [not used]
J Test - Temporary
K Tanker
L Polar
M Multi-Mission
N Test - Permanent
O Observation
P Patrol
Q Drone and Target
R Reconnaissance
S Anti-Submarine
T Trainer
U Utility
V VIP
W Weather
X Experimental
Y Prototype
Z Lighter-Than-Air


As for the F-117 issue, I have heard many variations on this debate including one from my father who worked on the Stealth Fighter team when it was a black op in the Nevada desert. Maybe someone else can better answer this question, though.
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jwenting
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:52 pm

The logical designation for the F-117 would be A-117 (not B, which is typically reserved for medium and heavy bombers).

AFAIK the A-10 was the last USAF model to receive the designation, the A-12 the last USN model (and that one was cancelled, A-7 was the last to reach production).

F is used for multi-role aircraft as well, so F-117 might have been given to fool people into thinking it has an air defense role as well (or who knows, maybe that was indeed the plan at the time but it didn't work).
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boeingnut
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:56 pm

Supposedly the F-117 was given the F designation to fool would-be Soviet spies into thinking that the Nighthawk was going to be some form of air-to-air fighter, meant to take out the Soviet equiv. of the AWACS birds
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Mon Apr 14, 2003 11:29 pm

As demonstrated in Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising" and other books of the time.
Some even went as far as to place them on aircraft carriers or airlifting them in C-5s (giving rise to all kinds of wild rumours about the aircraft having detachable wings and being carrier capable).
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usair330
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:24 am

Thanx for the info  Smile
 
fritzi
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:48 am

So the B747 is a bomber and the A340 is an attack airplane???  Laugh out loud
 
2912n
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:47 am

Fritzi---COuld be.....but does that make the Fokker F70 a fighter? Now thats a bizarre concept!  Smile
 
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:07 am

So according the Dash80's list the SR-71 is an Anti-Submarine Reconnaissance aircraft and the U-2 is a utility aircraft.. ha ha

So as with the F-117 it's not always consistent... and I guess the SR could stand for Supersonic Reconnaissance.... but the U?
 
2912n
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Tue Apr 15, 2003 10:59 am

The SR was for Strategic Recon.

The U-2 designation stems from when it was a super secret program. The U being for utility. Just something to throw people off a little bit. For a while the U-2 was the TR-1. The TR being "Tactical Recon" to go with the SR designation, but that faded pretty quickly and the U-2 designation came back.
 
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RE: F-16/ Does The F Stand For Fighter?

Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:29 pm

Actually it was supposed to be the RS-71

Except Lyndon Johnson when he announced the existance of the aircraft botched the name and called it the SR-71. So the aircraft is now called the SR-71

I am sure the reason why the F-117 is not a B is the same reason why the F-111 is not the B-111.
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