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"Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri May 30, 2003 2:55 am

Hey everyone,
This might be my first post in this forum. I had my scanner tuned to Willow Grove NAS a few days ago, about 20 miles north of PHL. My mom was working near it that day and she told me about large planes with four engines. So I put on the scanner and as I did a white 707 with the callsign Harpo 77 Heavy was climbing out and heading south. I've never seen 707s at NXX before, and there were one or two others that day also. It was heading to OOD VOR and continuing down the coast. Anyone know what these planes were doing or where they're from?

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri May 30, 2003 11:47 am

They might be the Navy E-6A/E-6B TACAMO aircraft operating out of Tinker AFB VQ-3 and VQ-4 me thinks.

I couldn't tell you if the call signs correlated or not without looking at the JANAP 119 pub.

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri May 30, 2003 11:50 am

The NJ ANG operates KC-135s out of MCGuire, one of the planes is a all white 707 with no boom.

No markings or entenas etc.

Not sure but it could be that plane I see it all the time doing touch and go's at McGuire, perhaps they were doing touch and go's at Willow Grove.

I've seen Willow Grove P-3s doing touch and go's at McGuire.
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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Sat May 31, 2003 7:48 am

Just to be a nitpicker the C-135 is not a 707 it is 12inches narrower, and also shorter than the 707 though they have the same birth from the Dash80.

anyway,
If it had newer CFM-56 engines it could have been one of the TACAMOs from here at Tinker or Pax in MD. If it had the older engines (the TF-33 like we use on the E-3) it could have been the Paul Revere Test bird out of Hanscom/Edwards for our E-8/RC-135 replacement testing.

Engines are a big factor on this one, any ideas. As for the callsign, Harpo i've talked to several diff types on that one, and don't know of any correlation of the top of my head.

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Sat May 31, 2003 10:11 am

Im leaning torwards air force 135 of some sort, could have been up to anything though, they do touch an go's all over the country, probably not a refueler, all the white ones ive seen do other stuff, what i really dont know
 
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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:16 am

This was NOT a KC-135. The air traffic controller asked the pilot what type they were and the pilot replied "Boeing 707." Plus, the last clearance I heard them get was to climb to FL230. That's rather high if they're just going to Maryland. Also, I was looking at them from the side and then the rear and I did not see any fuel boom.

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:31 am

so once again did it have short stubby engines (CFM-56), or long slender ones (TF-33) That will help with the ID.


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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:04 pm

Nick,

We had a visit from the aforementioned E-6B TACAMO aircraft several months ago...heres a photo I took of it...is this what you saw?
http://www.rwy34.com/search/bigpic.php?id=888

Theres been a lot of odd stuff lately (more than usual) at NXX...there was an F-14 around a few days ago, also an F/A-18, as well as a P-3 AWACS model several times...wonder whats going on?

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:39 pm

Yankee Air Pirate,

It had the long engines, just like the airliner 707s do. It was not like the ones in the picture Greg posted. Furthermore, the pilot actually identified the aircraft to the controller as a "Boeing 707." It also did not have that hump on the top.

Hey Greg,

Yeah I don't know what's going on at NXX lately, but I sure wish I could see through the trees in my neighbors backyard. I heard something really loud on Wednesday 6/3, whatever that was flying around.

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:10 pm

Could it have been a NATO aircraft?

I say this because right now parked up here in ANC is LX-N 19997 a NATO 707.

I don't see any extra antennae or aerials on it.
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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri Jun 06, 2003 1:47 pm

Well the NATO 707s come from GK where they fly support for the NATO E-3s -we had them here at Tinker for Noble Eagle. Last I knew they were painted gray and not white. If he said 707 and it had long TF-33 engines it wasn't an E-6 they have newer CFM-56s. We got rid of our TC-18s (707) which are going to god knows where (some still being made into E-8s). That could be what it was, or the NAVY has some contract tankers which i think are 707s. I know we get 707 tankers from other countries here at Tinker for depot work, I'll see what some friends say.

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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Fri Jun 06, 2003 2:08 pm

Yeah, this one looks pretty grew to me, I am at work, about three hundred feet from where it is parked.

But you never know, under the right night, that light gray might look white,
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RE: "Harpo 77" Callsign

Sat Jun 07, 2003 2:27 am

NXX almost never gets foreign traffic...only two occasions of us getting such planes that I can remember are for the airshow...we had a German Navy Dassault Atlantic and a Canadian Navy Sea King...thats about it...

Im still hoping that they reopen the observation area on Rt. 611...havent driven past in a while though...

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