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RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:04 pm

Or 'Operation Telic' as the UK armed forces called their deployment;
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/10jun_telic.html

On the breakdown of aircraft types, the 4 'others' are 2 Canberra Pr.9s and 2 Nimrod R.1 ELINT aircraft.
The Storm Shadow long range missile made it's combat debut before officially entering service.

 
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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Fri Jun 13, 2003 7:11 pm

What I find interesting was that work was found for 7 Nimrod MR.2 aircraft but only 6 Herks and 4 Tristars where used to support and move the British gear around.
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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Sat Jun 14, 2003 12:10 am

I wonder if among the results there are calls for more joint training between UK and US forces in a combined arms environment. This is the best way to avoid blue on blue friendly fire incidents.
 
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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:04 am

The C-17s were definately working their tails off also. I wonder how many hours they racked up during that time period.
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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:49 am

Interesting debrief. I saw many of those on the Ramp at PSAB, and Al Udeid. Flying on teh Brit AWACS was a great experiance, they have flight chefs make their food, as opposed to our crappy TCN box nasties.


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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:50 am

Lt-AWACS

What!

Do you mean you don't have a McDonalds and a Pizza Hut on board?

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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Sun Jun 15, 2003 12:36 pm

You know the funny part about that statement about the box lunches is that the general consensus among my medevac pilots, is that they get a better meal from the crew Kitchen on McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma, Washington, then when they get a crew lunch from Galvins Flying on Boeing Field in Seattle.

To each his own sometimes.

Actually I did have one pilot try and ball me out one time because they couldn't get a crew meal on Grey Army Airfield, which is on Ft. Lewis, Washington. Just couldn't get it through her head that the Army doesn't have crew meals, just MRE'S.
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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:22 pm

We had boxes of MREs and water on the planes. And MREs in flight suck ass. We got this giant box of sandwichs that the Third Country Nationals make (TCNs). THe same company that feeds the saudi prisons feed us. The only only thing that got us through were the chicken nuggets. Yes there was a burger King at PSAB, but it was , just like everything else in Al Kharj.

The British FLight chefs take orders from the crews the day before and then have things like Chicken Curry, and Roast Beef sandwichs, even Shepards pie, my favourite. Those boys know how to fight a war (minus the uniform problems which wasn't their fault)

THe Brits even had their own little chow hall. THough they often ate in ours.
Though their BX was filled with cigs and perfume, the latter you don't need in the dessert.

Flight meals at Tinker suck, you bring your own food, for the galley. Langley is one of the better bases.

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RE: RAF Gulf War 2 De-Brief

Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:43 pm

Good to see the excellent catering traditions, which date back to the AEW Shackelton era, still being maintained, either that or some guys off the no.10 Squadron VC-10 fleet are involved with the no.8 Squadron Sentry AEW.1s, as the VC-10s have lost much of their previous VIP tasking.
One thing the RAF is not short of is recce assets, I think the new Raptor pod on the recce-tasked Tornado GR.4As has a long range camera, to supplement the dedicated equipment already fitted (replacing the 27mm cannon on nos.2 and 13 Squadron Tornado GR.4As).
As well as new pods for the Harrier and Jaguar recce-tasked units (nos.4 and 41 Squadrons respectively).
The Maverick missiles on the Harriers are an interim buy (only about 100 rounds), in lieu of the Brimstone missile being developed, this came about after experience in Kosovo in 1999.
It looks like the Jaguars, based in Turkey, did not see much, if any, action, these were updated in a series of incremental programmes in the 1990's which actually came in under budget and ahead of schedule, a rare event.
They are due to be replaced by Typhoons by 2008.

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