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Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:05 am

i'm looking for all aplicable military designations of the following aircraft:

Boeing 707-300
Boeing 727-200
Boeing 737-200
Boeing 747-300

any help would be appreciated. thanks.  Smile
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:21 am

Boeing 707-300:

C-137?, E-3, C-18, E-6, E-8

Boeing 727-200:

Can't think of any, but the 721 is C-22.

737-200:

T-43

747-300:

None that I know of. It's not operated by any military AFAIK.


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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 11:08 am

are there any 747's operated by the military?

why is the 737 a trainer but the others cargo?
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:28 pm

VC-25A is operated by the military, as are E-4, and YAL-1A. I'll let you figure out what type those are.

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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 2:20 pm

The 737 is a trainer because it is used as a trainer .

There's now also 73Ns (C-40) in service, and 752s (C-32).
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 3:10 pm

To add to above- These are just US designators. THough some are the same in other countries like the E-3 etc.

Boeing 707-300

C-137, E-3B/C, E-8C, TC-18, E-6B (E-6 has CFM-56engines)

Boeing 727-200
None in service as noted above, the 727-100 is the C-22

Boeing 737-200

T-43 is a navigator trainer out of Randolph AFB. The C-40 A/B/C is for the new 737-700BBJ and 700 baselines for the AF and Navy. The Navy hires some 737-200s for pilot seasoning here at Tinker for the E-6B though they aren't designated- they are run by civilians.

Boeing 747-300
None operated, the VC-25 is the 747-200, the E-4 is the -200, and AL-1 is the 747-400C, though the rest will be full upper deck -400s.


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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:39 pm

The only other country I can think of that has a designation system for military aircraft is Canada. The 707-300 would be the CC-137 (no coincidence).

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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:55 am

Oh I meant 747-400 F for frieghter not C for Combi, I had my mind at work and was using C for 'Cargo' but to clarify the first Airborne laser was a 400F and the next 6 will be switched to Full upper deck 400s.


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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:16 am

Didn't the navy have one DC-8 (50?) designated C-24?

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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:34 am

"Didn't the navy have one DC-8 (50?) designated C-24?"
Yes and as far as I know they still do, not 100% though.


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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Thu Jul 24, 2003 8:58 am

Derh... It always helps if I do a search before i type dumb questions. Here is the most recent pic, in the year 2000. Doesn't look like she's going anywhere.


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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Thu Jul 24, 2003 2:02 pm

Oh I meant 747-400 F for frieghter not C for Combi, I had my mind at work and was using C for 'Cargo' but to clarify the first Airborne laser was a 400F and the next 6 will be switched to Full upper deck 400s.


Understood. Combi is designated M by Boeing, not C (probably M for modifiable instead of C for convertible).

Why the change to full upper decks? Not enough room in the YAL-1 for everything they want to put in?
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:08 am

As far as I've heard from our folks out there now, it is for more Crew quarters. I don't know if #2 is Freighter version also, but the rest as of right now should be Full upper decks.

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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:51 am

The USAF operated a single ex-Singapore Airlines B727-200, 83-4618, for ANG trooping purposes (along with 4 -100s). This -200 was designated C-22C (the 4 ex-National/Pan Am -100s were C-22Bs, and a former Lufthansa -100 was the sole C-22A).

83-4618 is now in storage at AMARC at Davis-Monthan AFB, Tucson. The C-22Bs are gradually being sold for scrapping. These aircraft are being replaced by the leased C-40Cs (B737-700 BBJ).

C-22C:
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:58 am

Here are the Serials for the USAF C-22s I have to add to above notes:

C-22A 84-0193 bought from FAA for Southern Command transport, retired in 1991

C-22B 83-4610, 83-4612, 83-4615, 83-4616, these four (as noted above) were National and Pan Am airlines 727s -100s which were obtained in 1983 For the D.C. ANG, 1 was stored in Maxton, NC I think 2 are still inservice. THe ASTRA C-38 replaced them for the D.C. ANG

C-22C 83-4618 this stretched -200 series never showed up on USAF inventory. It worked for Central Command out of DC, then went to Wright-Pat AFB, in OHIO, current whereabouts unknown??

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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:36 pm

The Royal New Zealand Airforce operates boeing 727 but are being replaced buy boeing 757-200 possibly ex air holland. Also the Indonesion air force operates several 737-200 in some form of awac role, and the Royal Australian air force is due to receive 737ng as an awac platform.
 
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:09 pm

what is the point of that laser 747? does it even work? i think it's a horrible ting to do to a plane!
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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Tue Jul 29, 2003 12:21 pm

The point is to destroy missiles in the boost phase, and eventully destroy aircraft though that comes later, depending on your view of the Geneva conventions prohibition on Laz-ing pilots eyes, versus the whole aircraft.

I know an ABMer out there now working testing on it (it will have several ABMs on board) and the test have worked so far. Things are on schedule.


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RE: Military Aircraft Designations

Fri Aug 01, 2003 5:22 am

Brazil also has a type code system.

This is an EU93 for example


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