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When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:31 am

I know that B 47 was the first USAF jet bombmer and it was built before the B 52. We still have the B 52 but when was the B 47 retire. Have they all been broken up any body know please tell me thank you.
 
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:10 am

Ok, the bomber Queen can answer your questions my dear. (I am obsessed with all bombers  Big grin )
1st of all the B-47 was retired around the end of 1969. Her 1st flight was I believe to be around 12-17-1947. By 1957 28 bomb wings were flying 1260 B-47's and another 600 training and recon versions were in use.
In 1986 over 36,000 man hours were spent restoring a B-47 at China Lake so they could fly her to Castle AFB to join the museum collection.
Just last month we were driving up I-95 in Georgia and low and behold there she sat, a B-47 right next to the interstate advertising a SAC museum. So yes, they do still exist to see.
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sat Aug 30, 2003 10:56 am

Thank you SWA TPA


This really help.
 
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sat Aug 30, 2003 1:21 pm

SWA TPA covered the dates rather well, in fact to perfection.

B-47s are however fairly common at museums in the US. I truly wish I had the drive to check my database, sadly I don't anymore.

Swing on down to Tucson, we have an RB-47 on display here.
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:21 pm

Some numbers on the B-47s. There were roughly 2000 B-47s built...most numerous being the 'E' model. Last B-47s withdrawn from SAC use was 1966, while the Stratojet retired from the USAF was the WB-47E in 1969. The US Navy had a pair of EB-47Es for several years, and they were retired in 1977! A sidenote...there are some 25 B-47s preserved & displayed around the USA. Regards.
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:03 am

A little off topic here but congrats on your retirement
IMissPiedmont! Hope you enjoy it although you are bored already. Sounds like you have a great place there. Im jealous  Big grin
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sun Aug 31, 2003 12:43 pm

Just a technicality here, but the B-47 was not the first jet bomber for the USAF. The North American B-45 Tornado was an all-jet aircraft in service before the B-47. The B-36 entered service before the B-47 as well, but it did not recieve the 4 aux. turbojets untill after the B-47. I believe the jets/pylons (not including brace) on the B-36 are identical to those used on the inboard positions on the B-47.

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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:21 pm

There where four bombers that where designed for the 1944 jet bomber specification


north American flew the B-45 on 17 Mar 1947. As was mentioned first it was the first all jet bomber in active service.



Convair built one B-46, it was rejected from service after one was built because of concerns regarding it's narrow cabin being able to hold all the mission equipment. It first flew on the 2nd of April of 47.



The Boeing B-47 was the most successful of the lot but didn't fly until 2nd of December of 1947 and didn't enter squadron service until the B models came around Circa 1950.



Martin flew the B-48 bomber prototype on 22 July of 1947, two where built and it was rejected for service




And last but not least consider the Northrop B-49. Aka the jet powered Flying Wing.

The first conversion of the piston powered flying wing flew on 21 October 1947. Two where built, one of which crashed near Muroc Dry lake in California. The crew was killed, and the air force base that is located there is named after the pilot, Capt Edwards.





So why did I put all of this up, to point out that the B-47 wasn't the first all jet bomber in Squadron service, nor was it the first or second jet bomber design to fly. It was the fifth, and I haven't even gone and checked if there where some medium bomber designs or strike aircraft that where on the books or flying. It arguably wasn't even the most advanced or daring of the designs.


But there is no doubt that it was the most successful design to come out of the 1944 jet bomber specification.

The B-45 I belive was used in Korea as a recon platform. And years later it was confirmed that recon B-47's did see combat action and where shot down by the Soviets during the cold war. So I guess that counts as combat too.
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RE: When Did The Usaf Retire There B 47 Fleet.

Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:57 am

Just a side note...

many of you may already know this, but the movie "Strategic Air Command" with Jimmy Stewart has great footage of B-47s as well as B-36s. Definitly worth a watch. It comes on AMC every 3 or 4 months. Wish I was alive to see those planes back then.

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