undies737
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Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:13 pm

Had a detailed look @ a USAF C17 from McChord AFB yesterday, which regularly stops over @ Richmond AFB in Sydney on the way to their Pine Gap AFB near Alice Springs.

There is a solid round piece of glass mounted on the windscreen centre pillar (just below the standby compass) which, I'm unsure of.

I'm guessing it is used as an eye reference point (so pilots have a true & correct H.U.D profile) which is there to aid in correct seat adjustment.

Can someone share some light on this subject?

Thanx

undies737
 
PW4084
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sat Sep 06, 2003 6:39 pm

that is correct undies737

It usually is pretty accurate but if you align it up perfectly you are always sitting pretty close to the stick.

You'll notice two black dots, one for each crew position.

PW4084
 
undies737
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:57 pm

Thanx for a quick response PW4048

I've heard no negative feedbacks about this aircraft.

It must be 1 of the world's only "perfect aircraft", in the sense it is both flight crew & maintenance crew friendly.

I would love to take a day trip on a C17 (USAF RAAF Richmond det Sydney - Pine Gap AFB) just to see how much more refined than our C130J they really are, & learn more about it's capability.

Does this opportunity exist?

I welcome any feedback from C17 crewmembers, especially those who pass by RAAF Richmond here in Sydney.

Cheers

undies737
 
airforce1995
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:42 pm

Being a maint. personnel at Charleston for a nember of years I often looked at the same thing and thought maybe thats what that was. Thanks for the answer... As far as being a maint. friendly ACFT it really is; it has its bad sides but the good ones out weigh them..... Has anyone heard when they are going to start the stretching process for them????
 
JohnM
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:13 am

That's the first I've heard about a stretch. The C-17 has had range issues since day one, and it would seen odd to me to stretch an airplane (add more weight) that needs more range. I still remember when C-5s were forced to stop in the Azores to refuel because the C-17s had to. I have been told the C-17 has several software versions out there, and whatever is working in a particular airplane, that is being left there. I'm sure they are easier to work than a C-5, (what isn't?) but I don't think they are as great as the propaganda says.
 
PW4084
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Tue Sep 09, 2003 5:55 pm

Undies, I don't know what it would take for you to get a ride in a C-17. I haven't operated to Australia but will someday. Recently I've been spending most of my time in different part of the world (with some of your countrymen). I bet you can schmooze a ride out to Alice Springs and back.

The C-17 is a great airplane but it's still an airplane and none is perfect. Unfortunately politics come into play and it clouds the issue. It is currently the 'baby' of AMC and can do no wrong. Until the next sensation comes along.

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c17loadmstr
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 7:48 am

I haven't heard anything about stretching?? I did hear that with the Block 15's, Boeing will be extending the left gear pod to match the right side. The right side is longer due to the auxillary power unit (apu). I've been told all the Block 15's will go to Jackson so we won't see any here @ CHS.

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Spacepope
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:57 am

Do they plan sticking more gas in this extended pod? From the sounds of it, that may be what the C-17 really needs... (I don't do smileys)

But seriously, what goes in this newly created space?

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c17loadmstr
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:48 am

No more space for fuel. From what the Boeing guys have said it will hold the BSA (Buffer Stop Assembly) which would be a great advancement for all those who've ever had to remove/stow it from the sidewalls.  Big grin They also said it would hold the T.O. box but that may a stretch. I'm sure they (Boeing) will find plenty of stuff to fill in there for added weight.

I'll be sure to pass along the info as it comes available.

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airforce1995
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:07 pm

Hey sounds like good idea to move the T.O.s to the new space, always looked odd the big metal box in the way. The dry bay in the center of the wing is used to carry fuel for down range operations on all of the newer models. Had a great time in CHS C17loadmstr; heard about the sudden stop on the runway a while back, Im sure the PAX loved that. I have had a good source tell me that there is plans all ready drawn up to stretch it in the future to take a lot more work off the C-5's back. You know Boeing is thinking of something to make more $$$. Job security
 
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RE: Question For Boeing C17 Globemaster Crewmembers?

Sat Sep 20, 2003 10:57 am

JohnM:
When I was assigned to AGS in Dover, I remember the C-5's stopped at Lajes all the time, and have since noticed that they don't stop there as much anymore, but I had no idea of the political reasons. I hated the C-17 from the get-go because of all the propaganda, and hype, but have since come to love it for it's simplicity compared to the C-5. I cut my teeth on the galaxy starting in 93' but work mostly 17's now in the en-route environment.

The only negative that I can think of is the intergral jacking required to change a tire. Off station it must be a big help, but here in the states where we have the capability to axle jack, it would be nice if we could do that. The whole process takes about 1.5 - 2.0 hours, and everybit of an hour of that is needed to prepare to intergral jack. Mostly paprework, and dragging hoses.

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