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USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:49 am

The USS Midway, which was retired by the US Navy in the early 90's after 40+ years of service is coming home to San Diego as a museum. The society which now owns the carrier had it painted in Oakland and it will be towed to San Diego on the 28th of Dec, with an arrival date of 2 January 04. The ship will be docked at North Island NAS for a few days while some of the airplanes that will be on display are loaded aboard. Midway will then be towed to the other side of the harbor and permanently docked. It should be open for viewing in April, with the museum being complete (as complete as a growing museum can be...) sometime later in the year.

The site where it will be docked is along Harbor Drive, just south of Broadway, with easy access from downtown, Seaport Village, the Star of India and the Cruise Ship terminal.

Link to the Midway homepage:
http://www.midway.org/index.html

Line to article from the San Diego Union (Dec 14, 03)
http://signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/index.html?0.026755205645461133

 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:04 am

Hey Tony,

Has there been any news about which aircraft they hope to exhibit on the Midway? And why can't the Midway have a Concorde?  Smile

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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:18 am

Midway certainly has the flight deck for a Concorde.  Wink/being sarcastic Seriously, has anyone seen the girth of this mother? She's was the first of 3 sisters, and probably the most used & respected as well. Midway has been rebuilt a few times and she certainly could handle any aircraft in the US arsenal up to and including the C-130 Herk. USS Midway...welcome home. I'll be looking forward to walking your decks soon. Best regards.
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:27 pm

After doing a bit more research...here is a link to the aircraft list to be displayed on board Midway.

http://members.cox.net/midwayhangar/aircraft_index.htm

Promises to be something special. Hopefully the museum will work hand in hand with the other fine aviation museums we have locally.

[Edited 2003-12-15 04:36:55]
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:39 pm

Ill get some close up photos.

On side note, this carrier is big, but, not nearly as big as the Kitty Hawk or Nimitz Class.

[Edited 2003-12-20 05:42:29]
 
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Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:35 am

Almost any aircraft. We could not carry f-14s on a permannet basis. The Tomcat is a heavy bird and we could only launch one at a time and then wait until the steam came back up. Also, we could handle the s-3 with ease but could not get them into the hanger due to there tall tail. Wouldn't fit. I was a yellow shirt her and she was and still is a good ship.
 
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Thu Dec 25, 2003 4:01 am

Nice to hear that the Midway will be preserved.

Does anyone know what's happened to her sister ships? The Franklin D. Roosevelt has long since been scrapped, right? And the Coral Sea is still in reserve somewhere?

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Thu Dec 25, 2003 6:00 am

Sorry to say, FACT...the Coral Sea is gone. She was scrapped just acouple of years ago. And the FDR was scrapped in the late '70s, if anyone didn't know that.
Slightly off-topic here, but I thought the S-3 Viking had a folding tail...but per Drcv41 I'm mistaken there. Merry Christmas.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:04 am

The S-3's tail does indeed fold.


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Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:31 am

 
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Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:06 am

Nice to see the USS Midway finally find a home and escape the torch. Even better it's ending up in a navy town.

On a little side note it appears that the USS America CV-66 is scheduled for scrapping.
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Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:39 pm

Drcy41,
Were you thinking of the A-3 Skywarrior? It is a bit bigger then an S-3.



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Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:46 am

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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:41 pm

This has been a long time in the making, and I am glad her future is now solidified. She had been sitting in Bremerton for about a decade before she was finally towed to Oakland, so I would imagine that the restoration process will take several years at the least.
As far as scrapping the super-carriers, I have heard that it is extremely cost-prohibitive at this point partially due to environmental regulations regarding the cleanup of contaminants such as asbestos. The Coral Sea (CV-43) scrapping took a long time from what I hear due to these such laws. You can find pictures of the Coral Sea undergoing the process at navsource.org. They have thousands of US Navy ship pictures on their database.
Woodreau- Just to let you know, the NVR website isn't all that accurate because I used to take pictures of the decommed ships in Pearl Harbor, and I can tell you that some ships were long gone even though they were still listed as being present on the website. I mean, the website lists the USS Whipple (FF-1062) as still being there although I know for a fact that there hasn't been a Knox Class Frigate there for several years now.
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:16 am

The Midway has arrived in San Diego and is now tied up at North Island. Should be moving to it's home on Harbor Drive on the 10th of January.
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:40 am

That's great news, 2912n. Sounds like it was an uneventful tow from WA. I gather Midway is taking onboard her display aircrafts now at the North Island...correct? Regards.
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:21 pm

My understanding is that they are doing some final modifications at North Island and are loading the display aircraft on board. She is supposed to be moved across the bay next week.

She is moored in line with Nimitz and Stennis. Looks tiny compared to those two...

Museum is due to open come April.
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:46 pm

Drove right next to it going to work tonight. What a ship.
 
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Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:09 pm

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Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:16 am

If I'm not mistaken, that looks like an E-2 Hawkeye being hoisted aboard. The ship is still very imposing to me...comparing the men aboard her & on the pier. Midway, I'll be walking your decks very soon.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:32 pm

I have a couple of photos that I took from a flight over Midway while still docked at North Island. There was an A-6, an A-7 and the E-2 on the deck. Hopefully I can upload on of the photos. (Airport overview?  Smile )
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:07 pm

I heard that one of the big complaints against Midway being berthed on the Embarcadero was that she would impose on the skyline and block views of the harbor... I did a drive-by the Midway yesterday and it was lost in between the trees and the buildings.

It's not much bigger than these new-fangled cruise ships these days...

I do remember when I was flying around Rhode Island, the twin flat-tops Forrestal and Saratoga alongside the battleship Iowa were tempting me to make an unscheduled landing... with 700ft of flight deck I think I could have gotten away with a touch and go.  Smile


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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:27 am

I think I would complain if the skyline blocked my view of the carrier. Last time I saw the Midway was in San Diego...she was still listing pretty bad from what I remember.

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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:55 am

Considering the Port has allowed things like the convention center and two major hotels to be built along Harbor Drive (and one of the ugliest multi story car parks...) that all block the view of the bay the addition of Midway is nothing. At least it FLOATS on the bay.  Smile

I think she was listing when she was here last because of the decommisioning work being done on her. Out of ballast etc...She was riding high a level the other day.
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:50 am

I guess she has always been a little unstable being she was originally a straight deck carrier. She's been around a long time.
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:39 am

If you think Midway has been around a long time, the Yorktown (CV-10) has been around longer. And Yorktown was originally built with a straight deck as well. Someone please correct me on my little list here on surviving carriers no longer in service.

Yorktown CV-10
Intrepid CV-11
Hornet CV-12
Lexington CV-16
Cabot CV-28
Oriskany CV-34
Midway CV-41
Forrestal CV-59
Saratoga CV-60
Ranger CV-61
Independence CV-62
Constellation CV-64
America CV-66

Regards.  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:30 pm

Lets see...These are museum ships now...
Yorktown is in Charlestown, South Carolina.
Intrepid is in NYC
Hornet is in Alameda, California
Lexington is in Corpus Christi, Texas
Midway is in San Diego

Cabot, Oriskany are gone.

Forrestal, Saratoga are on museum hold.

Ranger and Indy are in the reserve fleet.

Connie and America have been stricken and are pending dispo.

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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:36 pm

Cabot began scrapping in October 2000 and finished sometime in 2003

Oriskany is not yet gone, but is supposed to be sunk as an artificial reef sometime this year. Last I heard, she was at Beaumont, TX

Forrestal may go to Tampa to be a museum last I heard

Saratoga is in Philly and pretty much is a parts hulk to support the other carriers. If memory serves, a group wants to have it towed to be the centerpiece of a museum at the old NAS Quonset Point site. I believe she's currently at Newport, RI.

Ranger is laid up in Bremerton as part of the reserve fleet and is in poor condition

Independence is laid up at part of the reserve fleet, also in Bremerton

Constellation is stricken for disposal, and is currently in Bremerton

America is stricken for disposal and is currently at Philly
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:20 pm

Last time I saw Ranger, she looked decent...abiet, the paint was VERY beat up from sitting in that Puget Sound water forever...

I never got why America "has" to be scrapped....they keep trying to save her, I wish they could  Sad.

What's gonna happen to good ol Connie? I saw her 2 days before decomm, at North Island..looked rather barren and sad too.

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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:37 am

If you go to the official US Navy website, click on US NAVY TODAY, go to CURRENT PHOTOS and do a search for the USS Midway there are some great pictures of the ship in San Diego.

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Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:15 am


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Midway Museum In San

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:11 am

I have to say even though the USS Midway is not a supercarrier she is still pretty big. But it to bad the Navy decommision the Connie before I move to San Diego . Even though I like Nimitz class carriers, it would be nice to see a Kitty Hawk class carrier.
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:35 am

Well you might see the Hawk when she returns from Japan one day...
 
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:52 am

Slightly off topic here, but has the Enterprise (CV-65) ever been based in San Diego? Or anywhere on the west coast for that matter? And if I can push this further...what others carriers have been based at SAN at one time or another? Regards.
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:13 am

If memory serves me correctly the USS Enterprise was never based in San Diego. It was however based in Alameda, California in the eighties and early nineties before going back to the east coast. It did a around the world cruise for the transition.
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RE: USS Midway Museum In SAN

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:25 am

Hmmm. Working off memory here.

Over the past 25 years or so... Have to do some research as to what was home ported here during the Vietnam years and before...

Connie
Kitty Hawk
Nimitz
Stennis
Ranger
Independence

Usually 2 at a time have home ported here. Reagan is supposed to be assigned here when she goes into commision.

Because of the port facilities, support ships and large part of the air wing being based close by all the west coast carriers come through here at some point, usually at the begining and end of West Pac cruises and to use the training areas off shore.

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