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Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:40 pm

Yet another MiG 21 crash near Jamnagar in Gujrat. The engine flamed out on a routine training exercise. The pilot ejected safely however 4 people on the ground were killed.

More news out here :
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/508758.cms


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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:46 pm

Can I assume that this mig was not participating in Cope India.
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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:16 pm

Yes you can L 188 , THANK GOD !!! .Cope India is being held in Gwalior , North of Gujarat.
This aircraft would probably belong to the Operational conversion unit which was moved to the 33rd Wing in Jamnagar. Aircraft type should be the MiG 21 M which is nearing its service life. More details are coming in and the following is the excerpt from various websites:

"Group Capt AV Takurdesia said the aircraft involved in the accident was Type 96 variation which was nearing service completion in the IAF and stood almost on the verge of phase out.

The aircraft was on dummy range flying mission, and had been airborne for over 25 minutes when the pilot notices fuel starvation as he attempted a pull up manoeuvre and was forced to eject out, he said."

Bad stuff man !!

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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:38 pm

Operational conversion unit?


Why does that suspiciously sound like another title for training unit?
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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:09 pm

It is a training unit , sort of an advanced training unit . Initial flight training and type ratings happen in MOFTU , Tezpur , then the grads move to the operational conversion units.

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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:36 pm

Interestingly, this isnt first incidence of the "Fuel Starvation" on the Mig-21's . And all these incidents have happened within 50 hours of returning from a major Engine Overhaul from the HAL factory. The Russians have pinpointed certain specific problems in HAL's Overhauling procedures. HAL thinks hte Russians are passing on the blame, the AF seems to tagree with the Russian assesment.

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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:16 pm

Wouldn't dual engined Aircraft be more reliabile.
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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:16 pm

Wouldnt Dual engined aircraft be safer?

In a lot of these incidents yes. But the major issue is cost. A locally built Mig-21 can be made for a "mere" 15-20 crores, while other aircraft come for 10 times that amount.
 
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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:27 pm

Interestingly, this isnt first incidence of the "Fuel Starvation" on the Mig-21's

Wouldn't dual engined Aircraft be more reliabile.

So the pilots can burn gas twice as fast?
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RE: Another MiG 21 Crash In India!

Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:09 pm

The problem with this one was fuel pump failure as per the initial reports , there aircraft did not run out of fuel. If that is what caused the crash , hell you can have 3 engines and the aircraft will still have a flameout.

Roy , please post your sources for the claim that IAF agrees with the Russian assesment of using substandard spares. That is too far away from what the IAF thinks or has ever thought.

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