dahawaiian
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USAF: From "P" To "F"

Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:15 am

I have always noticed that the US Army Air Corps used the pursuit or "P" designation to denote their aerial combat aircraft whereas USN/USMC aircraft were given the "F" designation as in the F6F Hellcat and F4U Corsair during WWII. When and why did the US Army Air Corps, later the USAF, drop the "P" and pick up the "F" designation?
 
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:34 pm

After the Air Force became a separate service, it revised its designation system in 1948, in part to reflect the varying types of aircraft entering service. The "P" for Pursuit was dropped in this system and "P" was reassigned to Patrol aircraft. As a result, "F" for Fighter was adopted.
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:29 pm

When the Shooting Star first came out. It was the P-80. I think they changed it to the F-80 after 1948 like Garnet said.
 
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Fri Feb 27, 2004 5:07 pm

A lot of aircraft got switched from P to F, don't forget recon aircraft went from P to R at this time. Photo to Recon.

Just a few examples.

P-51 to F-51
P-61 to F-61
P-80 to F-80
P-84 to F-84

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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:29 pm

Changes in designations when the independent Air Force was created included;

A - Attack - deleted, A-24 became the F-24, A-26 became the B-26
A - Amphibian - Unchanged
B - Bomber - unchanged
C - Cargo or transport - unchanged
F - Photorecon - changed to R
H - Helicopter - replaced R
K - created for tankers
L - Liaison, later was interchanged with U
O - Observation or search and rescue - Changed to L or S
P - Pursuit - changed to F - fighter
Q - drones
R - rotary - Changed to H
S - Search and rescue
T - Replaced PT, BT, AT
 
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:34 am

Broke,
When did the "A" become attack again?? A-4, A-10... When did the "SR" become "Strategic Reconnaissance"? Or is that a one-off title for the Blackbirds only??
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:59 am

"A" became "Attack" again in 1962 with the introduction of the Tri-service designation system that's currently utilized. As for SR-71, the aircraft was originally referred to as the "RS-71," but when it was publicly unveiled, President Johnson referred to it as the "SR-71." Rather than simply correct the president, the military changed the designation instead.
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:26 am

Before the A-4 Skyhawk was the A-1 Skyraider (or Sandy) and the A-3 Vigilante.

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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:40 am

There was also the North America A-2 Savage (formerly the AJ)
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:33 am

Hate to make it seem like I'm pushing this thread to the top, but while cruising a few sites (rather than study for my comparative politics test I have in an hour), I found that the story regarding LBJ and the SR-71 was apocryphal. Apparently it has been refuted and the reason why SR-71 was chosen rather than RS-71 was that then-Chief of Staff Curtis LeMay simply liked SR-71 better and had LBJ's speech altered to read as such.
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RE: USAF: From "P" To "F"

Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:20 am

An pilot friend of mine had dinner with a Blackbird pilot this past Saturday. Several tidbits of information were discussed during the dinner, one of which was that the legend of the President renaming the SR in error was false.

I only wish I had my friends phone call during the dinner, there is many questions I would have liked to pose to the Sled driver, but I didn't get the message in time.
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