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Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:00 pm

It looks like they will start to close it in July 2005, with the last flights in October 2005. They will move to Ramstein and Spangdahlem. They will be added more ramp space at Spangdahlem. They will be building a C-5 hangar, reconstruction of the 10,500 ft runway, new freight terminal, new ramp, new passenger terminal and flight kitchen.

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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:59 pm

End of an era.

That is where I landed in Germany in 1992.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:53 pm

They have been in the progress of closing Rhein Main since 1996, its just been a skeleton crew working there and some usage as a contingency base, but in 2005 all that will be gone. they have already built the new pax terminal at ramstein, along with ramp space, and are still working on the runway and cargo terminal.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:31 am

I have spent the last 2 years transiting Rhein Main. In some ways, it's sad to see it go but for the most part, I'm ready to move to Ramstein or Spang. Rhein Main has done a wonderful job with their skeleton crew but the amenities that are enjoyed on other bases such as Ramstein or Spang are not always available if available at all. Ramstein has finally started to show some progress with all the new construction. Hopefully they'll get the runway work done "before" Rhein Main closes.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:42 am

Where is Ramstein and Spang located? The article I read also said that USAFE is looking at bases in eastern Europe. I would think Poland will open up their bases to the US. Poland seems willing to work and help the US.
 
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:54 am

Ramstien AB is located a couple hours drive southwest of Frankfurt in west central Germany.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:34 am

beginning of the end of US presence in Germany... Last US troops in Europe after the UK bases closed a few years ago.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:33 am

I don't agree that this is the beginning of the end of US presence in Germany. Both Spang and Ramstein are going to be expanded and updated with extended runways, new ramps and cargo facilities.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:53 am

I guess a move had to come, because the civilian airport auth. desperately need the land for expantion of terminals, and even a 4th runway.

They might pop the champange when the USAF leave.  Smile
 
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:52 am

"They might pop the champange" Maybe I'm a little bit picky but maybe they should thank the USAFE for many years of service. Berlin Airlift and oh that entire Cold War thing.
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:01 am

That's certainly true CX747 and I think the airlift memorial will stay even when the Airbase is flattened, but to be honest it's really better for both the USAF and FRA that they move to Ramstein and Spangdahlem.
 
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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:02 am

Why exactly do they need that 4th runway? Flights pretty much shut down once the sun goes down. While the traffic pattern does get congested, I never see planes landing on Runway 18. Will this 4th runway be on the 18 heading or make the 09 heading a 3 runway system? i.e. 09R / 09C / 09L

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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:41 pm

The 4th RWY will most likely be north of the existing main terminal complex and the Autobahn. It will be parallel to the 07/25 RWYs.

There is a dire need for new RWY capacity, as the current coordination figure of 80 movements/ hour is reached or exceeded at virtually every hour between 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. .

RWY18 is used for take-offs only.


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RE: Usaf Closing Rhein-Main AB

Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:05 pm

I'm sure the Germans thank the USAF for their presence, but I guess the administration of a congested airport have other agendas. The move will free up much needed capacity in the air and on the runway.

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