Refueler1974
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Those Smoky Starlifters......

Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:36 am

Hi! I was just wondering, with the phasing out of the C-141 Starlifter, and the advent of the C-17 Globemaster III, I was curious as to who is going to miss seeing those Starlifters going in and out.....I know I am gong to be one of them!!!! I've been working at KAEX (former England AFB, La) as a refueler for the last 4 years, and I have been seeing the gradual replacement of those grand ladies with the Globemasters, and it's a shame I don't get to see the 141's more often!



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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:00 am

Saw a C-141 here at Charleston AFB, SC, last week, and said to myself, "Wow, I haven't seen one of those in a long time". There are so many C-17s here that they have become almost commonplace. It's odd to see the C-141 and C-5 flown like a big, heavy transport, and then you watch the C-17 jockeys fling it around like an F-16. Neat to watch them line up C-17s about 6 in a line and practice assault landings and take-offs.
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:05 am

We had 2 C-141s come in to AEX last week bringing home troops from Iraq and from Cuba. Those are the 1st 141s I've seen in 6 months - 1 year. They are getting scarce these days. I know many a military personnel have logged MANY miles and hours in them......
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:32 am

According to the Air Force website, as of March 2004, there are 42 Starlifters remaining in service. Active AF units have 9, National Guard units have 7 and AF Reserve units have 26. The site didn't say where these a/c were based. Their numbers are dwindling fast. AMARC at Davis - Monthan is full of them.

I lived for a long time in Marietta, GA, where the Starlifter was produced, and saw many, many of them at Dobbins ARB.

Was on a C-5 coming back to Dobbins several years ago from Dayton, and one of the early C-141s, the short A model, flew in formation with us for a while. It was there to gather info on the radar signature of the C-5, and flew on both sides of us, in front, behind, above and below. This particular a/c had a long probe on the nose, and was painted in the white/silver original AF paint scheme.
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:51 am

One of my very best moments in aviation took place in GRR circa'84 or'85. A 141 had flown in the US Air Force Academy Band for a concert at the Gerald R. Ford center. After dropping off the band, the flight crew climbed back into their bird and taxied out for takeoff. A couple of co-workers and myself were loading baggage on a 727, and we decided to take a half-minute break to watch that Starlifter take off. Man, that mother came down the runway about fifty feet off the deck with a slightly nose-down attitude in order to gain airspeed. At about the three quarter mark of the runway, the pilot reefed that baby up into one of the most impressive Zoom Climbs I've ever seen! The wings just absolutely flexed to the max, and before you could count to five, the 141 was above the clouds. Unbelievable!! All of us just stood our ground with our jaws hanging down to our knees.
 
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:36 am

Saw one on Tuesday here in New Jersey near McGuire AFB, they are still relatively common here since I believe there is still one active duty Unit and one Reserve Unit flying them out of McGuire.

However starting this year McGuire gets it's first C-17, they will eventually phase out the C-141s which have been a fixture in the skies of Central Jersey since the 1960s.
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:14 am

Almost every night there is a C-141 doing touch and gos at Lackland AFB.
 
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Sat Apr 03, 2004 4:03 am

We used to have some come over from Jackson and Memphis to do touch and gos for an hour or so. Now that Jackson is getting C-17s, we hardly see them anymore (they were doing t & gs about a month ago with their new 17s!) and I haven't seen the Memphis C-141s in months.
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RE: Those Smoky Starlifters......

Sat Apr 03, 2004 2:05 pm

I still think we ought to lease them to the Canadians so they can actually have the aircraft to support their overseas peacekeeping operations.

Right now, airlift support is lacking.

Not that a lot of things aren't lacking in Forces Canada.
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