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Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:54 am

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/06/18/ssone.flight.history/index.html

"Rutan's suborbital flight will hit about 2,220 mph (3,572.7 kph) before being dragged back down by Earth's gravity."

So, a shot up to the edge of space, then a fall back down. Best of luck to 'em!
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:37 am

Rutan is a genius. I hope all goes well Monday. Finally something to get excited about in the aerospace industry.

On a side note I got the chance to see Dick Rutan and Jeanna Yeager back in 86/87 when they toured after completing the first non stop unrefueled flight in Burts ealier design, the Voyager.
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:31 am

I'm really surprised this doesn't generate more interest in here. This could be the beginning of a genuine revolution in manned space travel, ushering in an era when private ventures could make up a large percentage of the activity. Such entrepuneurs could do what NASA and the Russians have failed to do, thusfar: substantially reduce the cost of putting people into orbit or perhaps, beyond. This is nothing to sneeze at and the prodigious achievements of Burt Rutan and his associates suggest it's highly probable it WILL be accomplished! If private industry sees enough of a business incentive in areas like tourism or zero-G manufacturing, then things might really start moving in a number of years. Who knows where this might lead, in time? This could be a REALLY BIG DEAL! I pray the flight is a 100% success and all aboard come home safely!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:23 am

I'm really surprised this doesn't generate more interest in here.

I'm not. Most a.net users are dorks who care more about the registration number of the SIA A346 that flew to LAX yesterday than cool stuff like this.


Best of luck to Scaled!


I remember my mother saying that Rutan was up to something. This was years ago when we attended an AIAA dinner that he was speaking at in Huntsville. He never comes to Huntsville, pretty much, then all of a sudden he's giving two talks here in one year? (the AIAA talk on the future of spaceflight, and an EAA Chapter Meeting talk at Moontown Airport).

Huntsville, you'll remember, is where they designed the SSME, the most powerful and complex engine ever built in the history of mankind. But Burt was just looking for a reliable and inexpensive 10,000 lbs motor.
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:39 pm

Huntsville, you'll remember, is where they designed the SSME, the most powerful and complex engine ever built in the history of mankind.

I'm a big fan of the SSME, but since when has it been the most powerful engine ever built? The F-1 engine in the Saturn 5 churned out about 1.5 million lbf. And being the "most complex" is a rather dubious distinction if you ask me, complexity = more to go wrong.

This could be a REALLY BIG DEAL! I pray the flight is a 100% success and all aboard come home safely!

Do any networks plan to cover the launch live? I'd really like to watch this, and it seems like (since it will be early in the morning) some of the morning news shows will have the chance to show it. They gave special coverage of the Concorde retirement, and this really is the Kitty Hawk of private spaceflight.
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:02 pm

Hate to break it to you, but manned spaceflight began in the late '50s.  Big grin Plus we already have three men in space on board ISS. Rutan's a little late.  Laugh out loud

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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:52 pm

Boeing4ever - actually it began in 1961, but who's counting...  Big grin I think the more important thing here is that it is manned private spaceflight.

Scaled have a website about SpaceShipOne: http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/index.htm

CNN is apparently going to be doing a live broadcast. It is going to be a very exciting event - hopefully CNN international will cover it so we can see it in this part of the world.

Best of luck to the Scaled team - 100 years, 187 days after the Wright Brothers, lets hope they show how easy access to space can really be!

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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:02 am

You're right, I meant most powerful as a percentage of overall weight of the engine.

The Russians also had a more powerful motor for the NK-1, which was hopefully going to send it to the moon.

Definately the most complex, though.
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:53 am

SIA A346

Now there is something new.  Big grin
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:32 am

That's fantastic. I hope everything will work fine!
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BTW Are there really 3 men on board ISS? I thought there were only two because of the lack of S/Shuttles.

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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:55 am

Definately the most complex, though.

I got a chance to get a close-up look of one of the Block I SSME's from the very first shuttle flights. They are definitly complex!

When (at what time) will the white knight release its freight?

Early in the morning (Pacific Time Zone) most likely. Anyone who has flown into LAS around mid-afternoon knows why, it get's rather turbulent as the desert heats up.
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:03 pm

Rutan is a genius, I tried applying for Scaled Composites before I got the job I have now  Big grin It's another interesting twist to the world of space. Our space concepts seem to be changing by the week, this opens up new doors. Hopefully we'll be able to see it at work tomorrow, we're Aerospace Engineers, you'd think they'd led us  Smile

Good luck SpaceShipOne!
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:12 pm

Boeing4ever - actually it began in 1961, but who's counting...

Oh, right! Must have crossed the Sputnik launch with a Vostok and ended up with a late 50's conclusion.  Laugh out loud Close enough though.  Big grin

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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:01 pm

I followed this project for years trough their website, from the first rumours up until now....today....THE big day!!! I really hope everything goes as planned.

Maybe it sounds crazy but I really would like to fly in space before I die. I'm 33 now so I hope that within a year or 20 it's going to be more or less payable.  Smile

I'm really excited, programmed my VCR for CNN this afternoon (CET) so I can watch it tonnight.

Interesting question: How much should you wanna pay for a flight like the one today? I would pay max 25.000 EUR (30.000 USD) for it.

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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:30 pm

Well, the time is almost upon us for White Knight (cool name for an aircraft by the way) to take off. Could someone with CNN keep the rest of us updated on how it is going?

As for how much I'd pay, well, I don't have the funds now, obviously, but I guess I would part with up to €50,000. Hopefully in 20 years time though, we will be able to go into orbit, and spend a week in a space hotel, for that ammount, or even less! We are living in exciting times. Perhaps with increased access to space, we might finally see as the human race how precious our planet is, and how silly all our squables really are. Again, one can dream...

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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:37 pm



before boarding , 62 yrs old test pilot ..
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:27 am

IT LANDED SUCCESSFULLY!!!!!  Big thumbs up

Great takeoff with both the Starship and the spaceship!

Congrats to Rutan and the pilot as well as all of the workers from scaled composites!





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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:00 am

Here's the AW&ST story...

http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_aerospacedaily_story.jsp?id=news/rutan06214.xml

A monumental achievement for a private developer and the forerunner of routine suborbital and eventually orbital spaceflight by more average folks than the elite astronaut/cosmonaut ranks. Within a few years, it might well be possible for someone to plunk down only $100,000. and do this as a recreational adventure. Space Adventures, Ltd. is working on this right now. While I won't have 100 g's for such a trip, some of you here just might. If so, start thinking about it; it's beginning to look like this will happen. Beyond that, who can say but I'd almost bet that a serious industry arising from this might even be taking upper-income bracket tourists to the moon within 50 years of so.
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:25 am

AvObserver:

Rutan says he will have the cost at US$10,000 by 2010.
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:04 am

N328KF, I got that $100 G tag from a visit to the Space Adventures website; their effort is independent of Rutan's. If Burt can launch people for 10 grand a pop in a space tourism venture, he could well put Space Adventures out of business!
 
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RE: Manned Space Flight To Begin Monday!

Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:09 am

Wow is technology growing fast-i cant drink until 2012,yet the cost of flying to space and back is lower than that of a ticket on concorde.Cant wait until all flights are like this.This is like going back to 1927 when The spirit of St louis crossed the atlantic,cept this time we have the money hungry media and the internet Big grin
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