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Coltishall Closing.

Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:06 am

Yesterday's UK papers were full of government cuts in the UK Navy and the RAF. Plans are to close RAF Coltishall and all the Jaguar units stationed there. I was planning a visit for next year to the base. Does anyone have more news?
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:28 am

".......... and the withdrawal of two Jaguar squadrons would be brought forward to 2006 - with the final Jaguar squadron to be disbanded in 2007.

Mr Hoon also announced that RAF Coltishall in Norfolk would be closed by the end of 2006 and......."

I will miss working the Jaguars of 41 Sqn each winter  Sad
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:01 am

Since the mid 1990's equipment upgrades, RAF Jaguars have had an out of service date of 2008, it was always understood that RAF Coltishall would go with the Jags.
The slightly early retirement and disposal of Coltishall is about savings to pay for the replacement, Tranch 2 Typhoons.
Not clear if 6, 41 and 54 Sqns will reform on Typhoon, but thier role will be taken over by Typhoons, (Tranche 2 will carry Storm Shadow, Brimstone and LGBs, as well as all the air to air kit).
So you might see 'swing role' squadrons with Tranche 2 and if approved, Tranche 3 aircraft.

Worth noting that after the RAF Germany aircraft were replaced with Tornado GR.1s in the 1980's, the three surviving rapid deployment UK units were seen as ripe for cutting when the Cold War ended, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait probably saved them, as the Jags were able to get in theatre very quickly.
Use in Northern Iraq and the former Yugoslavia kept them busy and got long overdue system and weapon upgrades, on budget and on time for once.
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:15 pm

Sad. Very sad indeed. What will happen to the aircraft? Sold to India perhaps?
 
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Jags

Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:27 pm

Doubtful, India are producing their own aircraft as well as equipment fit diversifying from the RAF aircraft.
Do the French AF still have them?
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:05 pm

The French AF still operate Jaguars occasionally see them at UK airshows.
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:59 pm

The French even have a Jaguar display pair. How many Jags were built and where is the factory?
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:18 am

Built by Breguet in France, and by BAC at Warton, Jaguar was an early joint programme, originally designed to be a trainer/light attack aircraft, though it grew beyond that requirement.

202 each for the French and RAF, 24 to Oman, 12 to Ecuador, 18 to Nigeria, 40 to India followed by license production locally.
A version for the French Navy was not to enter service, the more 'French' Super Etendard being procured instead, though arguably less capable.

The merging of French companies became a problem, as Breguet were then part of Dassault, making competitors in the shape of Mirage F1 and Super Etendard. though being a good dedicated attack aircraft rather than multi role like the Mirage F1, hurt sales anyway.

Export and later the RAF machines, got upgrades to engines and equipment.
But apart from adding AS.30L and other more modern weapons, the French AF ones got less upgrades, though in Gulf War 1 both RAF and French Jaguars served with distinction, a low level French AF Jaguar raid on an airfield met with extensive AAA fire, even included a bullet going through the cockpit of one aircraft, damaging the pilot's helmet, though he pressed home his attack and returned to base.
60 AS.30Ls were also launched in this conflict.


 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:16 am

Some links;

General info;
http://www.targetlock.org.uk/jaguar/jaguar_splash.html

A unique sub-type in the Indian fleet;
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Jaguar.html
 
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RE: Coltishall Closing.

Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:33 am

Thanks. Fascinating information. Do you have any hints for spotting and picture taking in RAF Coltishall? My plan is to go in October. I know the weather may be a problem. But then again it rained for the Queen's wedding !!

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