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What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:20 am

Everyone should have one, so what is your favorite airlifter? Anything from the C-47 to the An-225.

BTW - Mine is the C-141B Starlifter. Beautiful plane

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:47 am

I've been on the C-141, did a 2.5 hour orientation flight where crews from McChord AFB did practice drops out the back with parachutes over Snoqualamie Pass and Moses Lake, WA. Not a bad plane at all.. but I'm gonna have to go with the C-17. That is one bad-ass piece of military might right there baby!

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlift's

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:36 am

For years their was an intact C-133 cargomaster parked on the back 40 here in Tucson. We would go and have lunch sitting in the shade of its mighty wings. I do not know much about the aircraft but always wished I could have seen one take off! You can see it @ the Pima air museum on your next visit to Tucson. But as for my favorite it has to be the C-5 Galaxy , great lines for a huge aircraft.
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:04 am

The venerable C-5 Galaxy is my favorite airlifter.
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:58 am

The C-5 is nice and it barely looks like it's moving at all, but I love the C-47, the DC-3 is one of the most beautiful cargo planes there ever was.
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:04 am

Seeing as how there's a good many of them based right here in South Carolina, my fave would have to be



Running a close second would be that most venerable of aircraft, the Hercules
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:19 am

Hi my fave Big lifter is the CHARLIE FIVE followed by the C-17.
 
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:49 am

I'm partial to the '141 because I flew them, but I'd have to say hands down the C-121, with a close second either the C-124C or C-97G. Long live Curvy Connie; and the C-124, a recip that could haul 75,000 lbs of trash, now that's amazing; not to mention the C-97, a forgotten cornerstone of modern aircraft development.

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:16 pm

without a doubt......


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:25 pm

The C-119. Just a rad looking airplane. Throw some wings on a railroad car and see if she'll fly.....sounds good to me
 
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:51 pm

Love the Herkasaurus!


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:37 am

Since you guys are all including images;

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:27 pm

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:43 pm

Put me down for the C-123 Provider.

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:22 pm


Hi!

Because I always loved the Constellation/Super Constellation family my vote goes to anything from the C69 to the C-121, has long they have 3 tails I'm in!!!
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:52 pm

I appreciate the sentiment CV990.

But three tails doesn't always make something as graceful as a connie.


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:26 pm


Hi L-188!

I always enjoy your words!!!! Yes you're right, the example of the tripple-tails you've showed ( nice picture and nice plane too... ) is not exactly the one I expected, I would say that in the picture I'm using there is some "soul" on that right?
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:35 pm

2 tails is the way to go!

The most beautiful transport has to be the Blackburn Beverly!!!!


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:38 pm


Hi!

Not bad... not bad at all!!! The Belvedere is a great huge beast and it's a nice looking plane too! I've seen one close by and I tell you.... it is a beast! But you must agree 3 is the trilogy, the triangle, the perfection.....
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:33 am

Well my 3rd fave would have to be the HERCULES AC-130 version that is! The trash hauler with teeth.
 
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:15 am

Well my 3rd fave would have to be the HERCULES AC-130 version that is! The trash hauler with teeth.

Technically, its not a airlifter... but I'll let it slip for two reasons. Reason one: the Spectre is a gunship. Reason two: it carries a 105-mm punch. OUCH!
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:29 am

Gotta be the C17...

Arrives when it's supposed to..
Leaves when it's supposed to...
No kneeling landing gear to break...
Easy to load and offload...
Manueverable on the ground...
Quiet, It'll sneak up on you if you're not paying attention...

And you don't need a fleet of buses to take the crew to billeting...

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:24 am

Shorts Belfast.

Interesting to see that a Twin Pioneer was still flying as of last year, they were used along with the single engine Pioneer, in STOL operations supporting counter insurgency efforts in Malaya and Borneo in the 1950's and 60's.
 
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:24 am

Mine's not been built (yet)

The Boeing C-17K with the RB211 engines that Boeing offered the RAF
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:37 am

My favorite airlifter is split between the C-5 Galaxy and the C-17A Globemaster III.
The C-5 can haul damn near anything, but the C-17 (being a BEAUTIFUL aircraft with EXCELLENT short field capability) can bring almost anything anywhere!!!


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:41 pm

To our mutual shame, I just realized that none of us brought up the C-47, except for the original poster


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:32 pm

Speaking of favorite airlifters......how about the DH-91 Albatross?

http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/DE%20HAVILLAND%20DH91%20ALBATROSS.htm

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O.K. picture this now.

That aicraft in carbon fiber(shouldn't be to hard considering it was a wood airplane built in a mold) with 4 PT-6 engines
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:07 pm

DH-91 was really an airliner, never a military aircraft, until the few built before WW2 were pressed into service like all other airliners.
If war had not broken out who knows how it would have fared in the civil market, it was an unusual aircraft.
Only one model of the new seaplane, The Golden Hind, was completed before Sept 1939, that too was pressed into military service.

P.S. The nationalization did not happen until 1977, when HS and BAC formed BAe, this lasted until 1985.
It made no difference in launching new aircraft as most projects were multi-national by then, however BAe immediately modernized and re-launched the Jetstream, restarted the suspended HS-146 as the BAe-146 and put UK involvement in Airbus on a firmer footing.
Unless you count the Eurofighter, which is basically a BAe design, but it was seen as the basis for a multinational programme as bitter experience had shown that this would make it less likely to be cancelled and the RAF Cold War 260 aircraft requirement was not sufficient to launch the project alone. Not forgetting the all BAe EAP technology demonstrator.
 
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:08 pm

I think you are forgetting about companies such as Miles, Bristol, Dehavilland Hawker and Siddney when they where seperate companies, and the like that died off before then.

A lot of the expertise and the inovation in the british A/C industry died with them.

Who in England has been able to rise up and take the reins from say Mitchel, Dehavilland or Miles as far as innovative design goes?

The US has their small innovative industries...Rutan, Maule, Mooney being prime examples of the small innovative designer teams.

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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:29 am

That's true, if not for inter-government department feuds, the Miles M.52 might well have been the first supersonic aircraft, after taking off under it's own (turbojet) power.

But, in the late 1950's, after a string of cancelled projects, the government decided that the UK had far too many small companies, which diluted their ability to deliver the goods as aircraft projects became more complex and expensive, as well as often wasting too much time competing with each other for Defence contracts.

So BAC and HS were formed out of most smaller companies, Handley Page resisted so the Macmillan government froze them out, a further batch of Victor B.2s were axed and the expected order for a small transport went to HS with the 748 modified into the Andover, rather than the more suitable Herald.
Spiteful, but it's hard to argue with the logic behind this thinking, there were still smaller players around afterwards like Shorts, Westland, Scottish Aviation and soon, Brittan-Norman.

It was in the field of military aircraft and airliners that rationalization was needed, as the industry looked nervously and with envy, at the size and resources of the US giants, the same process that the UK sought happened in France over a 15 year period, as they were a similar sized economy to the UK they clearly had the same concerns.

Really, the rationalization should have happened in the early 50's, not nearly a decade later, what mattered was keeping talented design teams together, not what company banner they were under, if a bigger company meant they were more resourced, all the better.

Of course, they then had to contend with an Air Staff that changed their minds as frequently as the weather, as well as often having eyes bigger than their wallets.
On the civil side you had the same with BOAC, such as ordering V.1000s, then deciding it's too soon for jets, then ordering 707s with the same engine.
BEA also had some funny ideas, which they wanted built, like making the Trident smaller, then bitching a few years later that is was too small!
Those three institutions did the most damage, not any overdue merging of companies.
 
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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:34 am

Ahem, L-188, see Post # 5.


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RE: What Is Your Favorite Airlifter

Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:53 am

Of all the aircraft so far mentioned in this thread, I've only flown in a DC-3 (C-47) of Air Atlantique in June 1984.

To illustrate my choice;

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