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Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:19 am

OK folks, based upon my experience on various USAF flightlines, etc, was wondering how many of you could answer the following questions about crew chief names for various USAF aircraft panels, acft areas, tools, etc.

1. Where is the "Hockey Stick Panel" on an F-15C?

2. Where is the "Oklahoma Panel" on a KC-135?

3. Where is the "California Panel" on a KC-10?

4. Where is the "Hell Hole" on a KC-135?

5. Where is the "Pool Room" on a KC-10?

6. What does it mean to hang a "bag" on an F-15C?

7. While finishing a job involving torquing a nut to the proper torque, a technician calls over the radio to bring out some "bird sh**". What is the technican referring to?

8. What type of technician is called a "pointy head"?

9. What type of technician is called a "BB stacker"?

Those are all that come to mind....hope everyone has fun with these. I will post the answers after awhile if no one gets them first....

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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:53 am

1) ??
2) ??
3) The "California Panel" is actually the door covering the upper stowage compartment outboard of the crew galley at approx FS400, called so because it is shaped like the state of California.
4) ??
5) The "Pool Room" is the unused cavity in the fwd intermediate fuselage area; called so because of the walkway around the edges. On the DC-10 it was the fwd galley area in some configs.
6) ??
7) I assume your talking about white grease? I've never called for that when setting torque.
8) AFIN, GAC, CNAD, etc. etc., whatever the acronym for the week is when referring to the box swappers, aka avionics guys.
9) Ammo troops.

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BTW dow you know where the Wagon Wheel, pork-chop, or EPR-Ducer Door panels are on a C-141?
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:09 am

You are correct on your answers....I will withhold on #1,2,4, and 6 for a little bit.

Unfortunately my time on the mighty -141 was limited as McGuire was transitioning to the KC-10 when I got there. Don't know where any of those -141 panels you mentioned are....

Thanks for answering....
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:28 am

6) An external fuel tank as in a bag of gas. This also applied to the F-4.
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:34 am

Gary - You are correct.....that leaves #1,2, and 4.

Incidentally, my old maintenance group commander at Kadena told me something about F-15's I'll always remember. He said "Don't let that sleek F-15 exterior fool you....underneath is just an ugly F-4"....
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:57 am

4. Where is the "Hell Hole" on a KC-135?

Boomers station????? Shot in the dark  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:18 am

DeltaGuy - You're close....it's not the boomer's station but is actually another compartment of the aircraft that is just forward and outboard of the boomers station....accessed by a panel on the lower left side of the aft fuselage. On the old KC-135A/E's the APN-69 beacon R/T was installed in this compartment. This was a barrel-shaped object that just barely fit through the access hatch and weighed a good 50+ lbs. Another really well-designed feature with the maintainer in mind (not!)....
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:24 am

Ahhh I was close....as close as one navy-raised guy can get to an Air Farce jet  Big grin

Excellent thread sir...can you tell me where to buy some name-brand jetwash?  Laugh out loud

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Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:00 am

"Jetwash" is an oldie but a goodie....ranks right up there with sending someone to get the keys to the airplane.

We used to have newly-assigned crew chiefs on the KC-10's get a plastic trash bag and go to the back of the aircraft. They were told to get an "APU Air Sample". They had to open the trash bag and stand in the APU exhaust, filling the bag, then quickly zip-tying the bag shut. They were then to bring the bag to the base bioenvironmental office and let them know they had an APU air sample for testing. Of course the bio guys would at that point break into laughter......
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:35 am

Or go get a spool of flight line...

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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:06 pm

Or go get me a holding pattern.....a pattern for properly holding the bombs onto the wings  Big grin

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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:57 am

Anyone know where the Orce door on the KC-135 is?
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:36 am

OK....answers to # 1 and # 2

1. Where is the "Hockey Stick Panel" on an F-15C?
Answer: Top of the fuselage, covers the wing/fuselage seam on both sides. It is long and narrow L-shaped....like a hockey stick.

2. Where is the "Oklahoma Panel" on a KC-135?
Answer: Lower surface of each wing. Forward of/Covers flap attach drive area. It looks like the state Oklahoma as it hangs from the lower wing when opened, hinged on the the west side of the state.

Moose - I don't know what an "Orce Door" is....and I should!!! Can you give me a hint?
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:04 pm

Not a crew chief but sheetmetal here... armpit panel on the C-17. Wing to fuselage panel. Quite fun to remove by two people in the wind on top of a B-1 Stand...
 
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RE: Crew Chief Terms For Panels, Etc

Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:20 am

I don't know what an "Orce Door" is....and I should!!! Can you give me a hint?



It's on the port side, forward of the wing, and real big.

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