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Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:20 am

I heard that in 2018 when our f18's are done, that we might get the Joint Strike Fighter.

Anyone know anything....
 
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:02 am

Well, I don't know anything about it, but I hope Canada does indeed get them.

Now, if only we could get back to making our own aircraft...

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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:48 am

The only aircraft that we still make own our own is CC-144 Challenger and the CC-115 Buffalo if I can remember correctly..
 
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:26 pm

Canadian built aircraft (still in operation by the CF)

CC144 Challenger - Bombardier
CT142 Dash 8(Nav Trainer) - Bombardier
CC138 Twin Otter - De Havilland Canada
CT133 T-Bird - Canadair
CH124 Sea King - Pratt & Whitney (Assy)
CF116 Freedom Fighter - Canadair(Stored)
CC115 Buffalo - De Havilland Canada
CT114 Tutor - Canadair

Of the above, the only aircraft still in prodiuction - Bombardier CRJ (derivative of the Challenger) and Bombardier Dash 8-Q400. Bombardier bought up all the competiotion DHC, Canadair, Shorts, Lear etc.

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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:02 am

Well, Canada is one of the "risk-sharing" partners in the project...
 
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:33 am

Quoting A346Dude (Reply 1):
Now, if only we could get back to making our own aircraft

Damm straight, anybody remember when yall built actual fighters and sold them abroad? CF-100?

As far as a risk sharing partner, remember they where in the EH-101 up until the voters down there made the mistake of emplacing Chreitan (spl) into the prime ministership.

Got axed, all the production jobs where lost, and years later the helicopter had to be bought anyway.
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:53 am

That's a long way off. Don't hold your breath on a firm date. Obviously the F/A-35 would be the best fit to replace the CF-18s but logic does not always win out.
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:23 pm

Actually before they buy the JSF, what they need to do is get the dust off the CF-100 plans, convert it to a H-tail, strengthen the hell out of the wing, and put a pair of modern turbo-fans in it, maybe stick a 30mm in the nose.

Would be a great in production equal to the A-10.
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:33 pm

By the time Canada is ready to get new fighters, UAV's will be the way to go. I expect the F-18 to be Canada's last manned fighter.

And I would be surprised if it happened as soon as 2018. The F-18's will only be 35 years old then.
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:54 pm

Quoting BT (Thread starter):
I heard that in 2018 when our f18's are done, that we might get the Joint Strike Fighter.

At least with this in-service date they will get (baring development delays) the final version that will be completely mission capable.
Australia will be taking early production aircraft that will not be fully integrated (as regards software and weapons integration) as our fleet of both F111 and F18 will be struggling to remain in the air.

Will later in-service aircraft such as a possible Canadian order be offered the GE F136 engine? From what I have read this will be the engine of choice for the next 50 years.
 
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:46 am

Talking to some airframe & avionics guys on the base here, they say the F-18 fleet is actually in worse condition than the Herc fleet (if you can believe it!). The problem was made a lot worse a few years ago when they decided to mothball several airframes & reduce the operational fleet to 72 (138 were purchased). Operational tempo has increased due mainly to air patrols in the wake of Sept 11, which are still ongoing depending on the perceived terrorist threat, plus the training load has remained the same. It all works out to a lot more hours with fewer planes to put them on. There is an avionics refit in progress but that won't help airframe hours.
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RE: Canada To Get Jsf In 2018

Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:56 pm

I work budget issues daily for several weapon systems in the USAF, at HQ Air Combat Command. One thing I have learned, in 2005, is trying to predict force structure in 2018 is like trying to predict the weather in 2018. In order for Canada to get the JSF in 2018, there needs to be a viable JSF program. In this volatile budget era, I wouldn't bet the house that there will even be a JSF....
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