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Air Force One - Boeing 707

Fri May 13, 2005 7:41 am

While watching a political program last night honoring Nancy Reagan, I found out part of the gala was a fundraiser to build a museum next to the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, CA so it can house the last Air Force One B707 thaT Reagan used while president. The library Foundation bought the plane outright from the US Gov'mt. The director said it will be open to the public as part of the tour of the library so people can see what actually an oval office was like while the president was travelling since not so many or hardly anyone can get to the white house oval office.
 
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Fri May 13, 2005 9:01 am

I doubt the Gov't got any money for 27000 (The VC-137 at the library). A safer bet would be that it's on permanent loan from the USAF Museum.
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Fri May 13, 2005 2:38 pm

It was a shame to put 27000 out to pasture , it did not have very many hours on the air frame, when I left in 92 it had less than 10000 hours on her.
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Fri May 13, 2005 2:54 pm

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 2):
It was a shame to put 27000 out to pasture

Beats turning it into an anonymous E-8.....
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Fri May 13, 2005 7:47 pm

Or letting it rot at AMARC until there's no more spares to be stripped from it to keep some KC-135 in the air and then cutting it up for scrap.
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Sat May 14, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 1):
I doubt the Gov't got any money for 27000 (The VC-137 at the library). A safer bet would be that it's on permanent loan from the USAF Museum.

That is correct, the VC-137C tail number 27000 is still owned by the USAF and is assigned to the USAF Museum. She is on loan to the President Reagan Library.
 
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Sat May 14, 2005 11:57 am

Isn't 27000 JFK's Jet? Doesn't anyone see a little irony in this?
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Sat May 14, 2005 3:27 pm

Quote:
Isn't 27000 JFK's Jet? Doesn't anyone see a little irony in this?

72-7000 wasn't delivered until the 2nd Nixon administration
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Sat May 14, 2005 9:04 pm

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 6):
Isn't 27000 JFK's Jet? Doesn't anyone see a little irony in this?

No, the JFK VC-137B was 62-6000. Reagan's VC-137C is 72-7000.
 
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Sat May 14, 2005 10:40 pm

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 7):
72-7000 wasn't delivered until the 2nd Nixon administration



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 8):
No, the JFK VC-137B was 62-6000. Reagan's VC-137C is 72-7000.

Thanks for the polite corections  Smile
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Tue May 17, 2005 2:45 am

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No, the JFK VC-137B was 62-6000. Reagan's VC-137C is 72-7000.

62-6000 was a VC-137"C" model, though it had the same nose landing gear follow up door as the C-137B's and C-135B's
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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Tue May 17, 2005 4:32 am

Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 10):
62-6000 was a VC-137"C" model, though it had the same nose landing gear follow up door as the C-137B's and C-135B's

I always thought 26000 & 27000 were essentially identical structurally. No?
I'll have to go look at some pix.

edit: add pix to show different NLG door config.

I learn something new everyday. I've got 707 books that go back almost 40 years. I worked with these two aircraft for a number of years.. And I never noticed the difference in the gear doors. Just looked at the Barry Schiffs 707 book that I bought in 1970 - sure enough some 707s in the book have the different setup. cool.

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RE: Air Force One - Boeing 707

Tue May 17, 2005 6:56 am

FYI:

I turned up this video while looking for 27000 pix. It was shot in Feb 05 and
shows progress on the AF1 pavilion at the Reagan library. 27000 looks to be pretty well reassembled and under cover. Pavilion opens fall 2005

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/airforceone/pavilion.wmv
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