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CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:53 am

Translated pressrelease from the Dutch Ministry of Defense:

"A CH-46D Chinook transport helicopter of the Royal Dutch Airforce took of monday August 8th from Soesterberg air base. It is bound for Mazar e Sharif in Afghanistan. The 6000km (about 3300nm) is flown in a couple of legs, therefore the Chinook will land in a.o. Ukrain, Russia and Turkmenistan. In 3,5 days the Chinook is due to arrive in Mazar e Sharif.

According the Royal Dutch Airforce is the distance an alltime record for the Chinook."

Wow, I presume those helicopters don't have autopilot, do they?  Smile
 
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:56 am

How many hours will this put on the clock?
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:05 am

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 1):
How many hours will this put on the clock?

According to the Boeing website the cruisespeed is 143 knots, so that must be 23 hours minimally. It also stated that the maximum range is 230nm, so with a little mathematics that will be refueling 15 times...
 
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:57 am

I think there was a small yet significant typo: That's a CH-47D "Chinook" correct? The aged CH-46D "Sea Knight" that the US Navy is retiring for new MH-60S are even older than the CH-46E's I worked on in the Marines!  old 
 
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:42 am

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 3):
That's a CH-47D "Chinook" correct?

You are completely right! It is a CH-47D.
 
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:18 pm

Quoting Varig767 (Reply 2):
It also stated that the maximum range is 230nm, so with a little mathematics that will be refueling 15 times...

I would venture to quess that they probably have some sort of fuel bladder they carry inside instead of cargo that extends the range a bit.

Now if it is a CH-47SD (export version) then according to the boeing website it has a range of 651.9nm.
 
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:34 am

A self-deployment of this type makes zero sense. They need to charter a C-5 to move this airplane....it'll cost less and take a day.

Why are they doing this?
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:27 am

It's most likely just because the Dutch don't have C-5's.

http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/chinook/c5a1a.html

[Edited 2005-08-09 21:41:31]
 
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:04 am

If it is one of the ex-CAF Chinooks it has an onboard ferry capability of upto 5 3000lb fuel bladders (21,000Lbs fuel full load). It will extend the range quite substantially. I can't remember the exact figures but burn rate was high until you were down to bladder #3 then it levelled off.

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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:20 am

If this helicopter is equivelant to US CH-47Ds then yes it has a 3 axis autopilot, as well as GPS and an inertial navigation system. This should not be a difficult flight logistically as it is a pretty advanced aircraft. As far as range, Ive heard of blackhawks and pavehawks flying over 18 hours nonstop with aerial refueling so this flight should be a cake walk compared to those missions.
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:40 am

Quoting Ulfinator (Reply 5):
Now if it is a CH-47SD (export version) then according to the boeing website it has a range of 651.9nm.

Wow, it would really suck if your destination was 652 nm away. They'd all see you crash 600 feet short of the pad.  Smile

[Edited 2005-08-10 18:41:11]
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RE: CH-46D Chinook On Its Way For 6000km Trip

Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:13 am

Ryan.....I understand that, hence the word "charter"....smartass..  Wink
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