baylorairbear
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Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:33 pm

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For a cool $100 million, it doesn't sound so bad. I know it's apples and oranges, but it seems like a better deal than $20 million to visit the ISS. Trips will be made in a modified Soyuz, and the are to be the precursors to eventual lunar landings. I think I would like to join the 238,328 Miles High Club.

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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:00 pm

It will be interesting if the ISS visit part goes through or not. That would then involve training in Houston with NASA, something the Russians would have to lobby for. If it is just the Soyuz, they could do it all from Star City.

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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:08 pm

Didn't Pan Am do this (sell tickets to the moon) once upon a time?

I wouldn't pay them a dime until they did it at least once.
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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:28 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 2):
I wouldn't pay them a dime until they did it at least once.

I wouldn't pay them a dime unitil I got back!

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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Thu Aug 11, 2005 2:13 pm

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 3):
I wouldn't pay them a dime unitil I got back!

If you don't make it back who needs the millions of dollars you gave them?
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Thorny
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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:22 am

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Thread starter):
For a cool $100 million, it doesn't sound so bad. I know it's apples and oranges, but it seems like a better deal than $20 million to visit the ISS. Trips will be made in a modified Soyuz, and the are to be the precursors to eventual lunar landings. I think I would like to join the 238,328 Miles High Club.

This will be essentially a revival of the Zond flights that were the Soviet precursors to their planned lunar landing in the 1960s. The Soviets never debugged the system enough to trust it to cosmonauts, back then, and Soyuz now is a very different bird than the lunar-era Soyuz (aka Zond) was, so I don't think I'd want to be the first to take the $100 million trip...

I doubt this program will ever fly. The lunar Soyuz won't be useable as a Space Station lifeboat, so the Russians can't just bump a cosmonaut and sell his seat to a tourist. That means the lunar tour will have to pay pretty much the full cost of the mission. The Russians do things cheap, but $100 million even for them is too low for two launchers (remember, it will need a Proton-launched upper stage for the moon burn) and a heavily upgraded Soyuz.

In other words, I'll believe it when I see it.

It's good to see the space tourism industry really trying to expand, but this program is hopelessly unrealistic.
 
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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:33 am

As Thorney says, a throw-back to the original Soyuz design goals, namely a multi-purpose spacecraft, including Lunar orbital missions, later as the 'Command Module' of the planned, ultimately abortive, Soviet Lunar landing effort.
This would be a very cramped flight to say the least.
The need for a booster for TLI adds complexity and cost to what should be the watchword for embryonic space tourism, keep it simple, keep it cheap.
So, I'd I had the money, I'd pass on this.

Ironic to consider that the US counterpart to Soyuz, the Apollo CSM, was more advanced, more versatile, more capable of further development.
But which one is still in use today?
Now if you do could do this trip in an Apollo......
 
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RE: Company To Sell Trips Around The Moon

Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:46 pm

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 2):
Didn't Pan Am do this (sell tickets to the moon) once upon a time?

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